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I personally think we should take that brama bull out back and put him out of his misery before he has a chance to disaapoint us?
Report from whom? Specifics?
Is it the report from Adam S. your hanging your hat on or the message board drop from Emoulds that your hanging your hat on?
Yep, it's always a good idea to trust the word of OBD instead of media reports about the team. So, exactly as reported, the Bills drafted a guy in the first round with a bum shoulder and then tried to minimize the issue. Now it appears to be even worse than originally reported by Shefter, and will require immediate surgery. Wow, what a miracle that Shaq lasted to the 19th pick!! We are so lucky to have Whaley and Co.!!
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what do you think, wise guy? My point is that, assuming the report of a badly injured shoulder is correct, we don't know if the doctors screwed up or if the front office decided to roll the dice anyway.So you do have the medical report?
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Unless they didn't, and this was just a case of reckless drafting of a player with known medical issues.If this is true, The Bills' doctors screwed up by clearing him before the draft.
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You make some good points here. There has been a great deal of change and it's probably not fair to just say "same old Bills". And yet, I don't see much evidence of a bold new direction, that the organization "gets it".Leadership comes from the top down. I won't bother drudging up old history, but it's clear (to me) that Ralph was holding this team back from competing in the modern NFL in a number of ways. The Pegulas, who have only had their hands on the wheel for less than 2 years, have already demonstrated what a difference fresh leadership can make. Russ Brandon doesn't make football decisions, he's a whipping boy by folks who need to cling to the ghosts of the past. Whaley's been really good compared to the GMs that came before him during this drought, whether he's a Ralph holdover or not is irrelevant when you look at the talent on the roster since he took over. The guy hasn't been perfect, but he hasn't been a problem either.
I'm not arguing you can't doubt them, just doubt them for the right reasons. Doubt the Pegulas because they have no experience owning an NFL team -- that's completely valid -- but let's at least acknowledge that the "same old Bills" is a misnomer. This is a new franchise in how it approaches building teams and competing in the league. They've shown this with their approach to retaining their own talent, the money put into the coaching staff and facilities... sooner or later that's going to show up on the field. Or at least that's the hope.
As for Shaq's issues, if they are indeed as dire as they sound, there's no reason the guy can't have a long and successful career even if he misses this season. Personally, all things being equal, I would have taken Jack but clearly he's even riskier medically speaking than Shaq.
An awful coaching hire that results in scrapping a top four defense, drafting players with medical issues and claiming "we can't believe he fell to us", paying top dollar for over the hill talent at a non-premium position, deciding that the way to win NFL 2016 is "ground and pound", etc. There is just a sense that there is no strong direction or plan--that there are multiple captains trying to steer the ship. And no, I have seen no evidence that the Pegulas really know what they are doing.
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Funny, I think when someone ridicules a post without offering an actual take or any analysis, THAT'S "just being lazy". But that's just me.I think when someone says same old bills
They are just being lazy
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it's not though. Whaley was a holdover from the Ralph era, as are many of the scouts and other OBD personnel. At any rate, this organization continues to think it is smarter than everyone else and it keeps f'ing up. Why does a "win now" team desperate for edge rush help draft a guy in the first round with serious medical issues? (And yes, a d-lineman who needs shoulder surgery, now or later, has serious medical issues.). This franchise has not earned the benefit of the doubt.Or it's just your confirmation bias at work... considering the organization is new from the top on down.
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Oops. Sorry😳Alert! Broken sarcasm meter on TSW!
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So it's the Bills' strong performance on the field the last 16 years, despite never making a postseason appearance, that's responsible for them remaining in Buffalo? Please explain.
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Maybe not, but i guarantee that harnessing the collective wisdom of TBD and TSW would have resulted in at least as many playoff appearances as OBD has produced in the past 16 years. So there's that.If only, if ONLY Whales would listen to reason... you know, like the kind that's oozing from TSW in every thread. We'd have at least seven Lombardis housed at OBD now doubt.
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The Bills' second best all-time 4th round pick.I really miss Terrance.....we need more players like him
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As I look through these lists, one thing that seems clear is that there is an abundance of talented QBs in the league--maybe more than there ever have been. The notion that the NFL is in crisis mode because of poor QB play (usually attributed to the proliferation of spread offenses in CFB) is downright laughable.
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Actually, Cardale made the Alabama D look like the proverbial deer in headlights, or a deer being confronted with a 12-gauge, if you prefer.😀rGive me the guy who doesn't look like a deer in headlights when he's out there. He isn't perfect or polished yet but he's not scared of going out there, sizing up the defense, and using his natural talent to try to make plays. The rest can be coached.
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Maybe you should be more open minded?
He might be the yang to your yin.
or maybe not any of that.
The statement that "X sucks and is a wasted pick" adds basically zero value on this or any other discussion board. QuoteTheRaven is free to disagree with me all he wants, but he's doing nothing more than expressing a bare opinion with absolutely nothing to back it up. In fact, even calling it an opinion is a stretch. There are lots of posters here who disagree with me regularly, but tend to offer facts or reasoning to support their position. That I can respect, and it's what this board is all about.
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I'm also curious as to what it is that people don't like? I've seen every snap of his career and he can do things no one else in this draft can. He is raw for sure but potentially a big time player in a couple of years.
Don't waste your breath. The closest you will ever get to an answer is, "I never cared for Cardale". I know a lot of people don't like this phrase, but QuoteTheRaven's posts are a classic example of just "hating on" someone.
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Oh, it's a race issue now.
Classic.
That's what it looks like from here.
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"issues reading and reacting to zone coverage underneath. Doesn't hold safeties with his eyes."
Anybody who reads that about a QB who started one year and got benched the next is going to question his football intelligence.
Why are you acting like this is a big mystery? You think people are just out to get him?
I don't think there is anything about either statement that would lead to the conclusion that CJ lacks "football intelligence". To answer your question, when someone questions CJ's "mind" or "football intelligence" but can't come up with anything to back it up, it makes me think they are making assumptions about him based on racial stereotypes and the fact that he is from the 'hood.
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And if you want to keep believing Whaley wasn't behind the EJ pick, knock yourself out. I'm not saying Jones will start the season as the backup, but I think there's a very good chance it happens sometime this year, and that he sees the field. It is not a given, as some suppose, that he's just going to be red-shirted for the year.You are required to believe if you choose not to. To set the record straight once again, Bills' GM Buddy Nix drafted EJ Manuel. If you think it's very possible that a raw rookie QB with 11 games of CFB experience will be the # 2 QB, knock yourself out. It could happen, but I doubt it.
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Funny, I read that entire profile and didn't see a word that called into question Cardale's "football intelligence", much less his innate brainpower, which is what many posters have called out--again, without any evidence. The profile makes the point that Cardale has little starting experience (although I think that's overblown) and makes mistakes that go along with that lack of experience, but I saw nothing there that would make one question his "football intelligence." Making bad in-game decisions is the hallmark of plenty of very bright quarterbacks, including at least one who graduated from Harvard 😜Football intelligence. Aren't legitimate scouts questioning it?
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/cardale-jones?id=2555426
That might be why.
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I do not believe such statements should be taken at face value. That might have been the ostensible plan as of the day of the draft, but plans change all the time and Whaley knows that. I think it's likely Whaley is just trying to deflect expectations and pressure from Cardale. Don't forget, it's not Whaley's job to decide who dresses on game day or who is the backup. And of course, Whaley has a long and embarrassing history of trying to prop up EJ (whom he foolishly drafted in the first round), sometimes against the wishes of the coaching staff. If Cardale progresses quickly, and EJ continues to be EJ, there is every possibility that Cardale wins the backup job sometime this season.Already stated by Whaley and company after the draft. They know that Cardale is too green to be the #2 back QB is 2016. They are on the record with EJ being the #2 and it makes since given his guaranteed salary and Cardale's lack of readiness with such limited CFB experience.
QB Jones wont alter EJs spot on depth chart in 2016
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Of course. But I have a problem when posters just come in and make statements like "Cardale sucks. He's a wasted pick" without offering anything to back it up. It adds nothing to the board, IMO. And with Cardale, there seem to also be a lot of posters who question his intelligence, even though all the evidence I've seen and heard is to the contrary. (Not saying Wagon Circler did this.). And Aaron, thanks for adding some perspective.Everyone should be allowed to speak , regardless.
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Yep. Complete waste of bandwidth.Your opinion -- remember, that's all it is -- might be worth something if we could see a record of your post-draft prediction history...or if, like, you actually provided any insight as to why you believe CJ was a "wasted" pick.
Without either, your post is really just filler and makes me wonder why you bothered to type it in the first place.
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😂rex was able to accomplish a 7 point swing last year on D, so maybe he'll do it again....
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Where is 4merper4mer when we need him?Andrew luck at 92? Isn't this based on 2015 season? If he's on the list then Taylor should be too.
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I completely agree. People act like Cardale has been hiding out at a D-3 school for the past four years and has never played in--much less won--a big game.Cardele is not as raw as everyone makes him out to be. I anticipate him being our 2 coming out of Fisher.
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Is Lawson hurt??
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Well, I agree that it's a sad state of affairs when message board rumors deserve more credibility than pronouncements from OBD.