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Teo has probably lost a lot of stock as a draft choice after Alabama, but let's see how he does in the combine and after the smoke clears from the championship debacle. I think as of now he is a late first or early second round pick, making him an unlikely choice for us.
That's not possible. I read here that he might go no. 1 in the whole draft and that we should definitely trade up to get him. And he almost won the Heisman!!!
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watched McCarron last night very closely for the first time. kid has tremendous pocket presence. quite mobile, and placed some balls where only his wr could get it. there where some long balls that would be nice to get back, but those are low percentage throws, and arms strength is not an issue. sign me up in 2014 for this kid
There will be a lot of good QBs available in the 2014 draft. Maybe we should not have been so quick to fire Gailey.
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It's immaterial what Andrews says.
It doesn't change the facts that:
1) RGIII's play was hurting the team
2)RGIII's play was also exposing him to further injury
3) Shanny did not recognize that leaving RGIII in the game was a lose-lose situation, there was nothing to gain and everything to lose
4) Shanny who is a maniacal autocrat, somehow let a player make a decision that a coach is supposed to make
That's pretty much all there is to say on this subject. I simply cannot believe all the talking heads at ESPN (Dilfer, Wilbon, etc) who are defending Shanahan. They talk as if the Redskins had no chance to win if RGIII was taken out, when it was precisely the opposite. I don't think I've ever seen a clearer case of coach's malfeasance.
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Whats bothering me here is Saben can be this dormant at the highest collage levels yet fail in the NFL. What does that do to the odds our .500 SU can be successful?
It's a myth that Saban failed in the NFL. Check his record. He quit because he was with a disfunctional franchise with no QB. And he's a jerk.
Sorry ND but you're playing against a real team from a real conference. What a joke of a championship game.
ND not as bad as they looked tonight. They did beat some very good teams this year, although I don't think they would beat Stanford with Hogan at QB.
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Shanahan wanted to win at all costs, well he sure showed everybody.
The irony is that by protecting his injured player, he would have given his team a better chance to win that game. Instead he turned it into a lose-lose proposition. I cannot believe the mindless ESPN talking heads like Dilfer who are supporting Shanahan. Incredible.
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it's very possible that washington LIED about the severity of his injuries from a month ago......
Yep. And the Skins were fined $20,000 earlier this year for not promptly reporting RGIII's concussion. Shanahan is a weasel.
And am I the only one who thinks RGIII is getting a big head? "I'm our best option." What kind of nonsense is that?
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Unconfirmed reports out of DC are that RGIII has a torn ACL and torn PCL with a 14-18 month recovery time. No way Cousins gets traded.
If I were Dan Snyder, Shanahan would be packing his bags right now. And he'd be taking his son with him.
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Link?
Latest update I saw is that there is "a difference of opinion" over whether the MRI shows any new damage vs. old changes. He's going back to Andrews tomorrow to seetle the issue.
Maybe they should just ask Shanahan what he thinks.
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I don't believe Goddell will let Williams off the hook until most positions are filled. He lied and that didn't set well with him and cook cook Williams for the entire season. Just my thought on it.
I was joking. I would never want that punk back in Buffalo.
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"Aggressive and "Bills defense" have been like fire and water for much too long. Does Shafer have any NFL coaching experience? It would help.
Greggg Williams may soon be available. His defenses are allegedly very aggressive.
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Chip Kelly said himself that head coaching is overrated (he said that in answering a question about his offense). Personally when i watch Oregon play, i see better players. He has better talent over there than almost everyone else in that league. In the NFL, since the talent is dispersed evenly i really don't think his scheme would be nearly as successful. He's be an interesting hire, don't get me wrong, but i don't think Cleveland fans or Philly should shed a tear over this. There's no way Chip Kelly would ever live up to his (or ESPN's) hype.
Well, Oregon certainly has better talent than the bottom feeders in the PAC 12, but teams like Stanford, USC, UCLA and even Washington have higher ranked recruiting classes. Most of Oregon's starters come from California (the state of Oregon has a small population--about the same as Orange County alone) so he has a built-in recruiting disadvantage and the weather in Eugene doesn't help either. The Ducks have not had a first-round draft pick since Jonathan Stewart, and that was pre-Chip Kelly. LaMichael James was Kelly's highest drafted player, and he was a late second rounder.
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Agreed. Existing knee injury exacerbated by horrible field conditions = risky and stupid decision by Shanahan with his Franchise QB.
Absolutely a bad decision from a long-term franchise standpoint. But also a very poor short term decision. Who cares what the doctor says? I could see from my couch that the guy was about 50% or less. He was completely ineffective after the second TD when he reinjured the knee. If Shanahan had the balls to put Cousins in at that point there is every reason to think they would have won that game. Counsins is no scrub. That's the part that makes no sense to me. I wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes, like bad blood between Cousins and RGIII. Pure speculation on my part, but it might explain the terrible decision-making by Shanahan.
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Johnny football is a true freshmen, he cannot come out in next years draft. You must be three years removed from HS to op into the NFL draft
No. He's a redshirt freshman, just like Mariotta. Eligible for 2014 draft.
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Shanny completely botched the RGIII situation.
This James Andrews story is gonna get a lot of play.
Look how good Cousins looks.
He looked good in the lone start he had too (a victory),
Exactly. Not like they had Thigpen coming off the bench.
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Unforgivable what Shanahan has done here.
There should be another coaching vacancy after today.
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The "Chip Kelly" saga may have more bad information around it then any story in NFL history. He went from "a deal in place" at Cleveland to "going to Philly" to now "going back to Oregon."
Wow. I would have said there was zero chance of him returning to Eugene. Now it almost seems likely. I wonder if he got cold feet or if teams just balked at his demands. Either way, I don't think he comes out of this looking very good. I have to say though, if Kelly puts together another 12-win season, which is likely given the players they have returning, the NFL will be knocking on his door again.
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TY Hilton >TJ Graham
Not possible. Buddy said we had to trade up to pick Graham because there were no other good WRs on the board at the time.
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Honestly, just for fun, what do you think the record of Chip Kelly would have been had he taken over the Syracuse HC job the exact same way that Marrone did, keeping in mind that he wouldn't have hardly any of his own guys in year 1 after being hired on December 11, only true freshmen in year two, and the first year he would have had mostly his own guys was last year.
Personally, if he were able to get that team to 30-20 in four years would be very, very hard to believe, and he probably would be pretty close to 25-25. Sure, it's impossible to know to if you had to guess, what would you say and why? And remember, Kelly was OC for a couple years at Oregon before taking over, and they were a top 10 NCAA team before he got there as HC.
I don't disagree with your point, but when Kelly took over as HC, the Ducks were several years removed from being a top 10 NCAA team. In Bellotti's last few years, they finished in or near the middle of the PAC 12 and went to non-BCS bowl games. Kelly clearly took the program to a new level, without substantially upping the quality of the recruits being brought in. That being said, Kelly was taking over much different program than Marrone and there's no telling how well he would have done at SU.
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I love message boards!
Yep, Flacco really lighting it up today against the fearsome Colts' defense. Back up the truck!
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There are certain positions that are much more impactful for the success of a team than other positions. Without a doubt having a good qb elevates the talent level on offense and to an extent the defense. The center position and guard position are certainly less impactful on the success of an offense than is a good qb or playmaker at receiver. A dynamic pass rushing DE or OLB is much more valuable than an interior DL or MLB.
This is an absolutely vital point, and I believe the one that Nix completely failed to grasp. Many contributors here don't get it either, but smart GMs do. The days of looking at your draft board and simply taking the highest rated player are (or should be) over. Certain positions are critical to NFL success and command a premium on the draft board--QB, playmaking WR, and pass-rushing DE or OLB, in that order. That's why I am critical of the Dareus selection. Even if Dareus lives up to his expectations (which he has not, of course) he will never have the same impact that an AJ Green has. Green is simply a beast and even with an average QB throwing the ball to him, the defense has to account for him on every play, which also makes other players on the offense better. Can you imagine the Bills' offense with both AJ Green and Stevie, along with a competent QB?
Same with edge rushers. Everyone laughed at Seattle for picking Irvin as high as they did, but his speed rushing ability has had a big impact on their defense.
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As I stated earlier in the week, offensively the college game and the pro game are growing closer to each other more now than they have been in years.
You see more read option and pistol stuff in the NFL while the colleges have long been attempting to emulate the NFL's pro-style passing attacks. Offenses in the NFL and in college are hybridizing concurrently.
Also, some recent college hires have had excellent success in the personnel area and it might be that their college recruiting acumen gives them another useful perspective on NFL prospects.
Very true. It might also be why we are seeing more rookie QB's experiencing success right out of the chute.
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Yes, and if and when Nix is no longer our GM as of Game 1 of next season (my prediction) we will look like even more of a current, forward-looking, professional organization.
I believe Nix doesn't fit the "new world order" announced by Brandon. But if he is only temporarily being retained to contribute to the Draft, no big deal.
Let's just hope Nix's "contribution" does not include the evaluation of whichever QB(s) we select.
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I have to laugh at the ignorance and outright stupidity of a lot of the posters in this thread.
Let me sum up pages and pages of comments with the following...
Marrone's quality as a coaching prospect should be not based purely on stats and his win/loss record at SU. That is a remarkably incomplete, sophomoric approach to his value that misses large amounts of meaningful nuance.
Secondly, regardless of what you or I think about Marrone, you should be smart enough to acknowledge that he was a hot prospect. He was heavily pursued by multiple teams in need of a coach, and some reports suggest he may have been Cleveland's #1 choice over Kelly.
Does that really remind you of Chan Gailey or Dick Jauron?
None of us knows if Marrone will be great or a bust. Anyone who claims to know the answer to that is full of BS.
But what we all must agree to is that this is most certainly not "business as usual" at 1 Bills Drive.
Russ and company quickly and aggressively pursued top coaching candidates perceived as such by multiple organizations in the NFL, not just the Bills...and bagged one of them before teams got a chance to do so.
So far, Russ Brandon is living up to his bold words at the Press Conference. Things are changing.
That is all we can ask for as fans at this time.
I have to agree with this. No one knows if Marrone will succeed or not, but it does not look like business as usual at OBD. RW, Jr. never would have made this hire. I am generally pleased with the way this HC search was conducted. Unlike three years ago, the Bills seem to have been on an even playing field with the other teams with HC vacancies. There were no embarrassing leaks that so and so refused even to interview with us, or rejected our offer. We look like a professional organization, for once. I was highly skeptical after last week's press conference due to the retention of Nix, but things are definitely looking up.
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this could get interesting.....
Dr. James Andrews told USA Today Sports that he didn't clear Robert Griffin III to return for four plays against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9 when he sprained his knee as Mike Shanahan had told reporters after that game and that he's still worried about the Washington Redskins quarterback's knee, even though he has been cleared to play.
When asked why he risked Griffin's long-term health by letting the quarterback return to the game, Shanahan had said he only let Griffin return after he got the OK from Andrews, who was on the team's sideline. "He's the one that gives me that information," Shanahan said on Dec. 10. "It's way over my head."
http://espn.go.com/n...s-re-enter-game
Dr. Andrews says RG3 was never cleared to re-enter game
If true, that's a huge problem. If I'm Daniel Snyder, I would demand a full investigation. If Shanahan played Griffin for one snap against the advice of the team doctor, I would fire him immediately. Who cares if the Redskins make the playoffs this year? You are talking about the future of the franchise for the next 10-15 years. Also, they have a competent backup who has proven he can win games when RGIII is on the bench. If true, absolutely unforgivable.
Mel Kiper's updated Big Board 1/9/13
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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As usual, I agree with much of what you say here. I don't agree, however, that we need to take a QB with the first pick. It's early in the process, but it seems there are going to be no sure-fire top 10 picks among the QB crop. From what I have read, there will be 5 to 7 who have second round grades or better and it will be hard to pick among them. I think it's a safe bet that one of those top 5-7 will be there when we pick in round 2 and that we should simply take the best one available at that time. I think teams' hubris sometimes tells them that a particular player is the best among several similar players at the same position, and they move up to get him. History usually proves them wrong. See Poz v. David Harris, for example. The Bills did the right thing last year when they held tight and took Glenn in the second, knowing that at least one of the top tackles would be there for them. In the past, they might have identified their guy, panicked, and moved up to make sure they got him. The bottom line is that it seems there will be little to separate this year's QB crop, so it's probably best to wait and see what comes.