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Find me the last good franchise that spend 2 top 10 picks on WRs, especially after the Watkins trade? You won't. Spending high picks on a dependent position is the definition of stupid.
See the Steelers. Coates 3rd, Brown 6th!, Wallace 3rd, Bryant 4th.
If the Bills draft a wr, they spend a #4 overall pick, #10 overall, 3rd, and 2nd round picks on WRs the last 4 years. That is insanely stupid way to build a football team. You get a real qb and magically your WRs get better.
I thought he was going around 15 anyway. He's really good and for a team with a qb in place, he could be a real difference maker.
I understand your point, but the fact is, WR has become a premium position in the NFL. And despite the heavy investment, it is still undoubtedly an area of real need for the Bills. While the Bills can and probably should add WR talent in later rounds, if a great receiver is available at 10, they should not pass just because they have used premium picks on the position in the past. Rookie contracts are relatively cheap and we don't know how much longer Watkins will stick around (or how healthy he will be).
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I'm just praying that McCaffrey doesn't make it to the 32nd pick.
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Very good summary of the situation. Even if we were able to trade TT for a late first round pick (which might be a pipe-dream anyway), we would be drafting from a position of weakness; Whaley might feel compelled to package multiple picks to move up for one of the top 2 QBs.unless bills go 9-7 or better, this is very likely whaley's last year.
which is why I question getting rid of TT.....with TT you have chance at 9-7
with cardale or any rookie QB not lining up behind the dallas O-line, it is near impossible to play well in first season. game is just too fast and difficult to master mentally.
keep TT for 1,2 or 3 years AND draft your QB of the future on first or second day. that gives options from a position of strength.
lets say you cut TT, now you are dealing from a weak position.....that signals to league you are very likely picking a qb at #10......I say Cleveland uses the 12th and some of their extra picks to move ahead of us. SF, JETS & CLEV are all likely to take a qb before us. we will use the #10 on the 4th best QB ??....not good.
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Are you serious? Why the hell not?No wr in the first for the Bills though.
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Disagree somewhat. Ross was a highly productive college player at the highest level. It's not like all he can do is run. This will certainly give him a boost.If someone raises Ross up the board because he ran a fast 40, their front office is terrible. Ross was always thought to be a Desean Jackson type wr.
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TT had 4 years of getting used to the NFL. It's an advantage.
Where he was drafted matters quite a bit because one was good enough and showed enough in college to be worth the #1 pick. Jameis on tape is a much better QB. He makes some bad decisions, but he's decisive, he throws from the pocket regularly, steps into his throws etc. He's a much better QB. He's a worse wildcat Brad Smith type RB than Tyrod though, I'll give you that.
Jameis is three inches taller than Tyrod, which is one of the major reasons he was the number 1 pick and Tyrod wasn't. If Winston is so much better on tape (I'll have to take your word for it), it hasn't been borne out by the statistics. And then there is the fact that Winston is now, and always has been, a knucklehead and a potential embarrassment to whichever organization he is affiliated with, while Tyrod has been a consummate pro and leader .
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And what will you do if Darnold decides he does not want to play for a tanking rust belt franchise and decides to return to USC?Agreed.
If the Bills are serious about having a promising future, they should tank this year by cutting Taylor, McCoy and Kyle, and trading Watkins.
Without those four guys, we don't win 4 games next year and will have a good shot at the #1 overall pick.
Darnold is the real deal. Do everything possible to get that guy and set yourself at the QB spot for the next 10+ years.
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Great idea. What will you do when Darnold decides he does not want to play for the Bills and returns to school for another year or two?Cut him, cut McCoy, cut Kyle, trade Watkins and tank for Darnold.
Without those four guys this team isn't winning more than 3 games next year.
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It's irrelevant to my point where he was drafted. And your statement that Jameis is already a better QB is not supported by any statistical evidence. It's also not clear how 4 years on the bench in Baltimore helped Tyrod develop as a QB. Jameis is younger, but Tyrod's far from old.Because WInston was the #1 overall pick, who is way younger, seen less NFL coaching, and already a better QB than Tyrod?
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So you think Winston will continue to improve, right? . Tyrod has fewer NFL starts than Winston does (and arguably better numbers). Why isn't it likely that Tyrod will continue to improve too?Winston is the truth. He's gonna be a top 10 QB in the next 2 years.
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yep, 15 years ago.See Price, Peerless.
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well Whaley isn't talking anymore. Neither is Russ. Only voices are McD and the man behind the curtain, Derek Boyko. So we don't know whether they are or aren't. New group.
http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/01/bills-speaking-one-voice-sean-mcdermotts/
Yeah, I have to say, I think the Bills are playing this Tyrod thing pretty well, so far. I think the article is spot on and it's not inconceivable that someone would offer the Bills a first-round pick for Tyrod. I think there is almost zero chance he gets released.
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I had that thought too. But it does seem like they would be pumping him up a little more publically if they wanted to increase his trade value.
You would think. But when have the Bills ever been savvy enough to pull something like that off?
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Exactly.Eh, high second or 1st, he's gone. Seems like a report to move up his price tag. He's a backup who's played 3 games behind maybe the greatest qb ever. Trade him now before he might get exposed and you can add to Brady's window, sadly.
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Do you think Patrick Willis or Luke Kuechly were worth their picks? Foster is drawing those comparisons from some scouts.
My original statement was probably a bit too broad. For example, I would almost never use a premium pick on a RB, but Zeke Elliott is an exception to that rule. Given the steep investment in Ragland, who is still an unknown, Foster seems like a luxury pick we cannot afford, but I suppose it would depend who else was still on the board.
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My point is that I would never use a premium pick on a linebacker who is not an edge rusher.
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Is Foster a pass rusher?Foster can play all 3 LB spots, he's not limited to ILB. Ragland could be the Sam or ILB in base D, Foster could as well, and Foster's athletic enough to be the WILL as well, he would actually upgrade the position as a whole and provide tremendous flexibility at the LB core. Foster would not have to leave the field no matter the situation, they could run base D in passing situations potentially.
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So, after spending three draft picks (including a second rounder) on ILB last year, we go ILB with the no. 10 pick in the draft this year? No thank you.The Dream! I Traded our 2nd for Denver's 2nd round pick & 3rd round comp pick. (2-12 for 2-19 & 3-37). CBS Board.
10: R1P10
LB REUBEN FOSTER
ALABAMA
51: R2P19
S OBI MELIFONWU
CONNECTICUT
75: R3P11
QB PATRICK MAHOMES II
TEXAS TECH
101: R3P37
WR ZAY JONES
EAST CAROLINA
156: R5P12
EDGE DEVONTE FIELDS
LOUISVILLE
171: R5P27
CB JALEN MYRICK
MINNESOTA
195: R6P11
K ZANE GONZALEZ
ARIZONA STATE
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if Shaq's shoulder issue was common knowledge before the draft, why was there zero mention of it in any of the pre-draft write-ups?Guys, I am not doubting that. They guy wore a shoulder brace all year and toughed it out so he wouldn't miss the post season. It was public knowledge he had a bad shoulder and played that way all year. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just sayin.
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So it was a success!He traded all that for just a chance to move up? gutsy move by doug, good thing it paid off and we got to actually move up. -
No, he gave away two fourth round picks (this year's and last year's) for the chance to move up 8 slots in round 2 to pick an ILB who likely would have been available anyway.Actually he also gave away a 4th for Sammy and didn't he give up a 4th for Ragland?
True. The lack of compensatory picks is an indication that you are not drafting and developing a lot of frontline players. That means you aren't going to lose as many good players in FA AND you willl have to sign other teams' FAs to fill your own holes. Both of those things will result in fewer comp picks.I think Doug Whaley is the worst more than anybody, but causality seems to be at play here.
Do you think those winning teams have lots of comp picks because they have lots of good players and can't keep them.
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How'd that work out?are u sure , lol remember rob johnson
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They won't have to give up that much. Garappolo can be had for one of the Browns' 2d round picks, plus maybe a 4th or 5th. No one will trade a high 1st for a guy who's started 3 games.Cleveland will probably lose a 1st and 3rd to Patriots for Garropolo.
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That about sums up my view on it too.If the Bills spend a top ten pick on an inside linebacker after spending 3 picks the year before on an inside linebacker I will just turn off my tv.
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