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Really? You would fire a GM for taking a shot at a QB in round 2? How long would you wait to see if Prescott is actually any good? What about a GM who wastes a round 2 pick on a right tackle with a bad medical history who can't even sniff the field after 2 years, despite crying need at the position? Is that a firing offense? If my GM is going to roll the dice, I want him to do it with a QB.If an NFL team takes Dak Prescott in round 2, then they deserve what they get.
He doesn't look like anything above a middle-of-day-3 pick to me, and I would have my trigger finger ready to fire my GM if he spent a day 2 pick on him and it didn't work out in my favor quickly.
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Great WRs make a big difference even when they don't have great QBs throwing them the ball--Josh Gordon, D'Andre Hopkins, Sammy, AJ Green and Steve Smith come to mind. And they make everyone around them better by forcing the defense to defend the whole field.I put a DT like Dareus who can be a double digit sack guy in the pass rusher category.
A typical 4-3 DT........good versus the run and the pass but not a great finisher as a pass rusher.......I value less.
I do put impact CB below an impact WR.......because the top priority of any organization should be maximizing QB play........but if you don't have a good QB you can't use a good WR........a good pass rusher always gets to rush the passer and the second priority of any organization should be to disrupt the opposing QB.
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Great post and a great list. I might put interior d-linemen ahead of CB, because really good ones can seriously disrupt an offense, in the running and the passing game. Jurrell Casey of the Titans comes to mind, and MD at his best. IMO, good corners are easier to find and don't impact a game in the same way. I also might rank playmaking receivers even with or higher than pass-rushers, because they open things up for the entire offense. Look how hopeless the Bills' offense was this year when Watkins was out.
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Great post and a great list. I might put interior d-linemen ahead of CB, because really good ones can seriously disrupt an offense, in the running and the passing game. Jurrell Casey of the Titans comes to mind, and MD at his best. IMO, good corners are easier to find and don't impact a game in the same way. I also might rank playmaking receives even with pass-rushers, because they open things up for the entire offense.
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Wait, you aren't suggesting that you have the first clue about "legalities" are you?...do you measure their 40 yard dash time? or how much they weigh, too?
it's an entirely different situation and set of legalities.
How is it stupid to divulge? He was calling out a team for asking a clearly ignorant and probably illegal question in an interview. You aren't saying that Apple was bound by any sort of confidentiality, are you?Stupid, stupid thing for someone to ask, but equally stupid for Eli to divulge the team. Poor judgment on his part.
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You're wasting your time. It's hard to argue with someone who just makes pronouncements with nothing to back it up.Drafting defense in the 1st is fine. I thought we were talking about taking a developmental guy?
The Bills haven't drafted a QB in 3 years.
You're a hard person to talk to. Just building straw men and getting easily offended.
The ability to always find an excuse not to draft a QB is a huge reason we have been on the outside looking in for 16 years.
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Ceilings are kinda silly. A lot of guys have high ceilings but it's rare that they come close to reaching them.
Also, Mayock had Blaine Gabbert ranked high than Cam Newton. It must have been about ceiling. Never forget.
That Florida game was awful but it was by far the worst game of the year. Is the Big 10 really that much superior than the ACC? CH had 156 or less yards passing in 7 games this year.
Still, like EJ, he has intrigue because of the physical skills. Honestly, unlike EJ, his best shot to succeed is to fall in the draft. He won't be rushed on the field and been given up after a few games.
As strange as it sounds, falling in the draft might be the best thing for Qbs in the long run.
I take back what I said. I thought you were referring to Kevin Hogan, not Hackenburg. (Don't ask why I thought CH referred to Hogan; I was probably thinking of Chris.) Your reference to the Big 10 made me realize my mistake. I stand by what I said about EJ, though. And the ACC was worse a few years ago when he was there than it is now..
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One would certainly hope so . . .
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Manuel never had the hype of CH but he never looked as bad in college as CH has the last 2 years.
Really?? I thought Hogan looked very good this year. As you have pointed out, he had a strong supporting cast and great coaching, but still . . .
I did not see EJ play much in college. I know he put up some pretty good numbers, but the level of competition was not great. And in the biggest game of his senior year, against Florida (one of the few games I saw), he was cover-your-eyes awful. He looked absolutely flustered and completely hopeless, kind of like how he looked against Houston last year.
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I thought the same thing after his first two or three years, but I think he has really improved. I also think his arm is underrated. We'll see.Respectfully disagree. I think he is a smart and high character but I see zero upside. I think his ceiling is backup qb at best. Smith and Dalton were stars in college. Hogan was a game manager.
IMO, Stanford might be one of the best situations for Qbs. Loaded team with great coaching. He doesn't have to win games like other qb prospects. He is along for the ride. JMo.
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I think he will last well into day 3, but I see Hogan as a potential starter with a ceiling of say, Andy Dalton or Alex Smith. He started 4 years for a very successful program in a pro-style offense. He is quite mobile and extremely durable. Would it be cliche to describe a Stanford QB as smart? Seems like a guy who could be a capable backup in his first year. I'm wondering if someone will take him earlier than we all think.It`s not that I don't think we should ever draft one late it's that I want a potential starter. This way either the draft pick or tt become the back up.
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i really have no idea what you're talking about or what your point is.Oh yah, we're GREAT at proritizing players... That's why we had smaller, productive receivers like Bob Woods rated higher than guys like Leveon Bell, and Travis Kelce in '13.... And probably why we took the ever-productive Marquise Goodwin over Markus Wheaton in that same draft... By the way how many catches has Marquise made in three years? -Oh, never mind....Because we're great at "targeting" Talent .. Yah, I remember now...
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When did it become given that we need size at the second WR position, and why? It is dangerous to go into a draft targeting "tall" receivers instead of just excellent receivers of any size. It's how you end up picking James Hardy instead of DeSean Jackson.
The Bills' return game was atrocious last year. Finding a productive WR who can also return punts and/kickoffs should be a priority. Bralon Addison comes to mind, but I'm sure there are plenty of others.
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Not to be pedantic or anything, but your ode to Antoine Winfield would have been more convincing if you had bothered to spell his surname correctly.Like some of the best corners in the game, Winnfield got better and better each year...when he left Buffalo, his game went to another level as a Viking. Looking at stats never tells the whole story. Winnfield was a great tackler, and was a great run supporter....jeez...these kind of threads always get my blood boiling. This team, frankly, has been mostly garbage (much as I love them) for 15+ years..its' a team game...there have been some fine football players in Buffalo over the past 15 year, just never enough of them at one time...I once heard Joe Montana opine that had he not ended up in San Francisco, when he did, he very well might have never had the great NFL career he had.
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Everyone should go back and read this thread, especially the post from BigK, which was posted at the beginning of training camp (post number 7 in the thread). It's my nominee for post of the year on TSW. BigK accurately predicts to a "t" the problems with Rex's defense and his inflexibility, including the fact that Rex was bringing in his Jet henchmen specifically to enforce "the system". Now he's brought in his brother for more of the same, so no, Rex is not going to change. This thread is worth a re-read, especially the predictable reaction from the faithful to BigK's incredibly insightful post.
http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/179582-dareus-and-dunbar-its-kind-of-a-clash/
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PPG is a great stat, but 3 and out is a much better stat than 3rd down conversion to measure efficacy of an offense. 3 and out means you did NOTHING.
I would go so far as to say that 3d down conversion rate is virtually meaningless. If you looked at 3d down conversion rates across the league, I'm willing to bet there would be close to zero correlation between that stat and overall offensive ranking and/or PPG.
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You do know that in 2013 he was the most dominant offensive player in the league, and had almost 1700 yds receiving in just 14 games, right? And that the QBs he was working with were garbage, right?False
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For a couple of seasons, Cowart was the best ILB in the league. Is his son playing college ball now? I remember seeing someone with his name playing for an SEC team this fall.I agree with you on Sam Cowart. He was fantastic. That 2000 season went down the tubes when he was injured.
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If Gordon truly returns to previous form, it is Sammy who would become our #2 receiver option.Get it done and our #2 receiver option is set for the year and put Woods in the slot
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Many states have freedom of information laws that make it impossible (or at least very difficult) to keep settlements with a public university confidential. That may be why some of the terms of the UT settlement are known. Not sure about the second lawsuit. It sounds like the school was not a party to it.Just to be clear, Beerball, and not intending to weigh in on other comments, there were two settlements with confidentiality agreements:
1) when Naughright left Tennessee in 1997, settlement by university for $300,000 to which Manning was a party (signed confidentiality agreement
2) settlement to lawsuit Naughright filed 2 years after Manning published his book, after Florida University dismissed her and she apparently cound not find other employment, amount not to my knowledge disclosed (2003)
Now apparently there is a new lawsuit against UT alleging a hostile environment that violates Title IX.
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Thank you.I'm an attorney Boyst62. Nobody in the profession says they lost a lawsuit when they settle. If that's the case then Manning lost also. Stop talking out of your a$$.
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The sheer ignorance of the legal system demonstrated by this post is absolutely breathtaking. I don't even know where to start.she did not win the lawsuit, therefore she lost. with the nda and all things of that matter it is as much a lost that it was settled as it was a win.
i am stretching this statement for a purpose. because if someone can say manning lost the settlement than one could easily say she did, as well.
it does not matter at all that the judge said the case can move forward. it was not a verdict, nor a ruling of resolution to the case. it was simply that the case had legal merit in the civil case - which is actually quite easy to obtain.
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Funny how "continuity" lost out when it came to keeping Schwartz and his top-ranked defense, but a year later this same "continuity" was cited as the biggest reason we now have to endure another year of Rex's clown show.
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Now I think perhaps you didn't even read the article. The only "court ruling" described was the court's decision that her case should NOT be dismissed and should be allowed to go to trial. Both cases were resolved by settlement agreements that resulted in her being paid $$$$, so your statement that "she sued and lost" is simply untrue. What is your agenda?how did they do that?
everything is alleged. the court rulings, like them or not, are final. she sued and she lost. we don't know the facts, this guy doesn't either.
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2016 Draft QB thread
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Btw, I don't care that other teams supposedly had CK high on their boards too. It's the gm's job to get it right. And of course no one can really prove where other teams had him slotted. As I recall, plenty of teams had him on their DND list due to medical issues.