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  1. If you believe those are excuses, what do you think are the reasons it happened the way it did and why?

    One reason is that the Bills led the league in 3-and-outs for much of the season--that cuts down on the number of targets. And of course, the Bills' "ground and pound" offense foolishly and consciously de-emphasized the passing game, as if the calendar was re-set to 1977.
  2. What I still don't like about it was the fact that, at the time, they decided to keep Bryce Brown over FJ just because he was younger. Brown was awful and should have been cut long before Jackson.

    Maybe it was the fact that only a year earlier, Whaley gifted the Eagles a 4th round pick for Brown, who likely would have been released anyway -- a relatively minor, but nonetheless embarrassing, blot on Whaley's CV.
  3. Other than Aaron Rodgers (whom the Pack took in the first round and I wish we had taken), which franchise QB did the Packers take with the other nine QB picks that we missed out on?

     

    The answer is zero.

    "Other than Aaron Rogers"--that a significant qualifier, don't you think? A team only needs one franchise QB every 10 years or so--that's the point. Last I heard, the Bills still don't have one. But even with Rogers in the fold, the Pack have continued to draft QBs for depth, because you never know. Because Rogers has rarely been hurt, most of the guys they drafted never got a real shot, although Flynn did pretty well when he played.
  4. Billsfans,

    I am satisfied enough with Tyrod that I don't think we need to waste a first on a QB. Cook is showing he is not going to live up to a 1st Round pick.

     

    I say it's time to revamp the D. Since Rex is getting his shot, the only thing we can do is find his guys and roll with it.

     

    If the axe falls on the D again then Pegs has no choice but to give Rex the boot (personally I wish it happened this year)

     

    But to me there is no QB worth the trouble of wasting a #1 on.

     

    My draft goes

     

    #1 LB or DE (BPA)

    #2 DE or LB (BPA)

    #3 WR

    #4 OT

    #5 DE

    #6 CB

    #7 WR

     

     

    So you're cool with going into 2016 with EJ as the backup again after yet another year of not drafting a QB? Fortunately, I'm pretty sure Rex and Whaley are not down with that strategy.
  5. We get to blame the Pegulas for the Sabres' cupboard being bare and GM mismanagement prior to their purchase of the team, but we also get to discredit them for the Bills' record last year.

     

     

    I don't understand this sentence. I wasn't trying to discredit the Pegulas for the Bills' record last year; they pretty clearly had little to do with it, one way or the other. This year is a different matter. They hired Ryan and had him report directly to them; Ryan's first year has been disappointing, if not an utter fiasco. There was also the embarrassing episode last year when the Pegulas apparently tried to hire Polian as "Football Czar" and got publicly left at the altar, thus undermining the authority of their GM. Again, it's still early days and it's not surprising that the Pegulas have made a few missteps and things might turn out great, but I don't think they have earned the presumption that they know what they are doing.

  6. So no acknowledgement that the Sabres are considered one of the most talented young teams in the NHL?

     

    No acknowledgement that Pegula's only season of ownership in the NFL resulted in a winning record?

     

    Let's gloss over all of it so that you can be snarky.

    As I have said, I don't follow hockey any more so I'll just have to take your word for it that, after four years in the wilderness, the Sabres are ready to break out, even though they apparently have the third worst record in the league right now. As to the Bills, are you saying the Pegulas deserve credit for last year's fabulous 9-7* record? Anyway, that's not the point. I'm merely suggesting that the Pegulas are not above criticism, and that there is scant evidence that they actually know what they are doing when it comes to running a professional sports franchise.

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    You also don't seem to differentiate between straight reporting and opinion writing.

    This is a distinction that eludes many in this thread. It's one that has been called out many times here but folks still don't get it. In fact, there is a lack of understanding of the media's role in general; many seem to believe that writers for the Buffalo News should be cheerleaders for the team and for the community.

  8. Facts not excuses.

     

    Only two teams have less points than the Sabres this season. Yes, that is a step up from his creating the lowest scoring team. Just how low should we have to keep our expectations?

     

    Looking back at the Sabres record in the years since Peluga has owned the Sabres, their combined standings have been lower than the combined standings of the same number of years previous to his ownership.

     

    The Bills will win less games this year than last. Is his rebuild plan for the Bills like his Sabres plan, on tanking under Rex to finally start a real rebuild for 5 years from now? Enough is enough, be competitive now, not for the next generation.

     

    That is his record. Of teams being worse under his ownership. Your hopes and fantasies of better days are at this point just fantasies, There is no basis in the records to justify them.

     

    After hearing almost two decades of new 3 or 5 year rebuild promises from the Bills, I am short on believing this new rebuild under Pegula will have any better results. Drink another glass of Kool-aide and put on those even rosier shaded glasses, maybe that works for you.

     

    For me, it is time to show me the results. I am not that gullible anymore.

     

    Consistency Ha, a consistent record of getting worse and losing.

    How rude of you to question the Great Pegula and his impeccable record as an owner of sports franchises. Didn't you know that he is beyond criticism? That if he is criticized by you (or, God forbid, by a Buffalo News columnist) he might just take the Bills and move them to Toronto or LA or London? Please show more respect.

  9. Didn't Adrian Peterson carry the Vikes to the playoffs just a few seasons ago despite very mediocre QB play from Christian Ponder?

    You just proved my point. I assume you are referring to 2012, when the Vikings went 10-6 and qualified for the playoffs as a wild card. Peterson, the best back of his generation, had a career year (more than 2000 yards rushing), yet the team still finished middle of the pack in total offense and lost in the first round of the playoffs, scoring a whopping 7 points against the Packers in the playoff game. I would hardly call that "the Promised Land". It shows the limited impact even the best of the best running backs have on a team's fortunes.

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    Thanks Gary.

     

    When you don't have a franchise QB, you need a franchise RB. DW made the deal he had to make at that time.

    That is a misconception, albeit one that OBD obviously harbored.

     

    There is no such thing as a "franchise RB"--they don't last long enough and even the best RBs are readily replaceable. It is a passing league. (How much good did it do the Bills to lead the league in rushing this year?) If you don't have a franchise QB, you had better have a damn good defense and a lot of other weapons on offense. A running back, no matter how good, is not going to take you to the promised land.

  11. Chip did have a winning record after 3 NFL seasons. That's not too bad.

     

    In fact, he was probably the most successful "college coach" to jump to the NFL in recent years.

     

    His biggest problem is his massive ego and apparently his need to control EVERYTHING. I think he's a good coach but needs a GM that he can work with to protect him from stupid personnel moves.

    I agree with this. Kelly's method and his system are very different from anything else in the NFL. Because of this, I always thought it was important for Kelly to succeed right away in the NFL in order to get the players to buy in. Kelly did have great success his first year (and to some extent last year, too) but things when off the rails with some of his personnel moves, especially getting rid of Mathis, Jackson, and McCoy, and his failure to get the right QB. Although I think the issue was somewhat overblown, I'm sure the race stuff with McCoy and Riley Cooper didn't help in the locker room, either. Once things started to go south, everything snowballed; when a coach loses the locker room, there is no way to keep him around. That seems to be what happened in Philly, and it could also de-rail Rex. I think Kelly will get another chance in the NFL (if he wants it) and I think Chip is smart enough to learn from his past mistakes. But teams will be cautious.

  12. I could explain it to you but I don't have the energy. In short, he tried seeing through the current path for a few years, it was going nowhere, so they went for a full-on rebuild. With respect to the Sabres, I literally wouldn't change one move Pegula/TIm Murray have made. Is it guaranteed to work? Of course not. Some things already haven't- Leino, Ehrhoff, etc.- but everything has made sense at the time. It is an extremely effectively run organization. Anyone who follows the Sabres closely is thrilled with their current path. The next ten years are going to be very enjoyable for Sabres fans.

    I'll have to take your word for it because, as I said, I don't follow the Sabres. As I understand it, though, the team has lost consistently since Pegula took over.

     

    Bucky's point is that, as of right now, there is no evidence that the Pegulas know what they are doing WRT running their sports franchises. Again, it may be that they have a brilliant plan that will play out magnificently in the next few years, but I would submit that, if that is true, there is no evidence of it.

     

    As a Bills fan, my knee-jerk reaction is to be skeptical of any and all moves made by the franchise. I'm sorry, I can't help it, but the skeptics have usually been proven correct in this case. Unfortunately, that carries over to the Pegulas, even though they aren't responsible for most of the last 16 years. So far, I have seen nothing that makes me think they are NOT in over their heads.

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