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Relax, John. I'm not trying cram anything down anyone's throats. I was just pointing out that taking a healthy WR at 19 was a viable option--despite what you keep calling a weak WR class--instead of taking an injured DE. It certainly would not have been a reach.What logic are you trying to shove down peoples throats......that we should have taken a gamble that the weak WR crop might be better then Shaq Lawson?
I guess?
Or are you just crying that they will be immediately available and Shaq wont be?
I will tell you what will really be funny is if Dez Lewis......who would not be getting the same looks if we had taken a WR number 1......actually turns into a player and is having a nice camp.
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I swear John, sometimes you seem to be impervious to logic...Of course the fact that three WRs came off the board almost immediately after the Bills' pick doesn't mean any of them will necessarily turn out to be better than Shaq; all it means is that it would hardly have been a reach for the Bills to have taken one of them at 19, regardless whether it was supposedly a weak overall class for WRs. Of course Shaq might turn into the next Bruce Smith and the three WRs might all bust, but it might be the other way around, too. And I'm not troubled by Treadwell's 40 times. There are plenty of really good WRs who ran "slow" 40 times at the combine--Marshall and Boldin come to mind immediately.Just because they were available to pick does not mean they would be better players
Treadwell is SLOW.....there is a reason why these WR's fell
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Not necessarily true. Three WR in a row came off the board shortly after the Bills took Shaq. I would have been very happy with Treadwell at 19.WR? The crop this year was week......might have gotten into a situation like we did that weak draft with Hardy.
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It amazes me how down you folks are on this guy. It borders on ridicule/hatred and it also seems to be coming from some of the most avowed "optimists". Granted, Goodwin has not been healthy very often, but when he has gotten on the field, he has looked very good, IMO. As BADOL says, he needs to hone his craft, but he's extremely difficult to cover and if we can get him on the field with Sammy, it will poses serious problems for opposing defenses. I would much rather have a guy like Goidwin, even with his health issues, than someone who is durable, but lacks his speed and ability to get open.
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Don't they also have Devin Smith, who was injured last year? They definitely have some weapons.I can't believe Fitz would turn down $12M at this point in his career. Chan , Marshall , Decker , Forte , that's the perfect storm for him to close out .
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It is an open forum. That's why TBC has the right to call you out if he disagrees with your take.I am not RAILING against anyone, just expressing my views as I SEE THEM..I thought this was an OPEN FORUM...WTF!
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Not really. I was mostly being flippant, but there is no logical reason why a scheme that struggles against the spread couldn't also suck against a power attack.Because I don't believe it's suddenly a scheme that's ineffectual against whatever an offense throws its way. Do you believe that?
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Except for Peyton Manning, of course.Jesus. We never know what these guys are really like
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Why not?I've heard that Rex's scheme is weak against power football and weak against the spread. Can't possibly be both.
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Respect has to be earned, especially in the NFL. I don't think talking big makes men want to follow you, unless you have a history of backing it up. Unfortunately, Rex hasn't "backed it up" in a long time, so the big talk isn't going to win him a lot of followers in the Bills' locker room, and neither is his fellowship with people like Rob and D Thurman.Look up the "Pygmalion Effect." When leaders believe in their people, they tend to perform better. And when people believe in themselves, they tend to perform better (sometimes called the "Galatea Effect."). These two generalities have been proven in numerous studies in a number of different environments. Let's add a third observation: when people believe in the plan, they perform better. I think these are the things Rex is looking for.
I don't think Rex meant that he wants a culture where there's no constructive criticism. Having read Collision Low Crossers, I don't think he's that kind of guy.
More than once in his career, General Patton said something to the effect, "If 10 men are thinking alike, 9 of them aren't thinking." If Rex is in fact looking for group-think and yes-men, you're right, he's not going to build a winning environment.
I remember something Chad Eaton, who was a really good DT on some of the early NE teams, said about Belichick: That rah rah talk doesn't work among grown men; what gets NFL players fired up is knowing your coach is smarter and better prepared than the guy on the other sideline and if you do what he says, you will probably win. The Ryans have a lot to prove in that regard, and until they do, there will be doubters, even (or maybe especially) in the locker room.
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There is absolutely no reason personal fouls should not be reviewable. PI too, but that's been discussed ad nauseum.I really feel as though all "targeting a defenseless player" personal foul penalties should be subject to review. It seems like whenever there is a huge hit across the middle, or somebody's hat pops off, the immediate reaction and inclination from the refs is to throw the flag. In many cases, a review of the play in slow motion reveals that the hit was perfectly clean and impeccably timed.
I guess I've just seen too many drives extended by what appeared to be fantastic defensive plays that were not dirty.
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Wow, I hope not. Everything I have read said the heart issue wasn't a concern and I have never heard that was why Ragland "dropped", if in fact he did. If you are right, then we are once again counting on the Bills medical staff and/or Whaley to be correct in their medical assessment. Let's hope the other shoe doesn't drop.Ragland dropped because of his medical in my opinion.
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Almost anyone can replace Whaley if all his job requires him to do is "find talent." That's not at all difficult in this day and age considering the vast amount of resources available.
Besides finding a quality head coach, his job description should also entail adequate public speaking skills and not embarrassing the league or organization.
Thank you. Of course, Whaley looks positively brilliant compared to his predecessor as Bill's GM.
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Hey, if Mark Sanchez can take Rex to the AFC championship twice, then he can be a franchise QB in the NFL. See how that works?Hey if Rex can take Mark Sanchez to the AFC championship twice then he can be a HC in the NFL. You people did the exact same thing with Belichick in Cleveland and Pete Carol's first romp along with many other coaches.
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"We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia."He has released another qualifying statement:
"What I actually meant to say is that all humans are cleared to play football by our medical staff. I have complete confidence in that staff. Everyone will be a day one starter. No if something were to happen....."
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Maybe those Lee, Lynch, and those WRs were simply not the right value on their board?
It really could be that simple
Maybe so, but if those guys become stars and Shaq doesn't, does the fact that they were "not the right value on their board" exonerate OBD?
So you are NOT saying that Rex had influence over the picks?
I'm saying that I suspect Rex had a great deal of influence over the picks at the top of the Bills' draft.
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I missed the link where Lee was gonna be a Bill.
Nevermind
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We'll see. And let me remind you that RR was not "valued as a first rounder" by anyone who mattered, otherwise, he would not have lasted to 41. He plays a low impact, relatively easy to replace position. The Bills gave up a lot for such a player.I'll take Whaley with his track record over some people. The medical issue is a short term setback that is simply not a reach in any rational way. Reaching is drafting a less talented player too high. Same thing with regard to Ragland who most considered a 1st round pick. I fail to see how getting a guy valued as a 1st rounder in the 2nd is a reach.
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Some people think drafting Shaq at 19 with his medical issue was reaching to fill a perceived need, and that giving up two mid-round picks to move up to take a throwback ILB in the second round was another example of reaching to fill a perceived need. Same with Washington in the third. Now if these guys play really well, it's all good, but if they don't, I think someone is going to take the fall, and rightly so.If you are reaching to draft players for need then that is absolutely a poor strategy. Is that what the Bills did? With their 1st two picks, I would say no. I liked Lee and would have been fine with the Bills taking him, but Shaq was rated higher. Paxton Lynch? No! Since Whaley has been the GM calling the shots in three drafts, they have done pretty well. Who cares about 20 years because that has zero to do with what's happening now.
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True, but I think Bandit was suggesting that Tyrod often took too long to get rid of the ball, and he's right.Some of that is attributable to his ability to buy time with his mobility.
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You're projecting words that I never said. Drafting to fill perceived needs is not a great strategy, so that's a weak defense of these picks. If all three (or even two of them) turn into impact starters, then it was a good draft. On the other hand, if a couple of them bust, Rex/Whaley's got a problem, especially if Lee or a couple of the receivers they passed up become stars, not to mention if Paxton Lynch lights it up. We'll see. Maybe for the first time in 20 years, the Bills are smarter than the rest of the league.I'm not projecting anything. Based on the needs the Bills had, they selected players to fill those needs although I wouldn't have drafted Adolphus Washington if it were up to me. You're are providing a guarantee, but I'm the one projecting? OK, if you say so.
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In your zeal to defend the administration, you are projecting. All I said was that it appears that Rex had a huge influence on the top of the draft; I didn't say they were bad picks, although they were not the ones I would have made. Time will tell. If it doesn't pan out, fingers will be pointed between the new BFFs, that I guarantee.OMG! How could they address areas of need with highly rated players? WTH were they thinking getting a guy from a great Clemson program who was rated as a top 15 prospect? Fire everyone!
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If you're not interested to see how Lee, who is healthy and could have been the Bills' pick, plays for our division rival, then you have an incurious mind. I'm also interested to see how Dodd, the other Clemson edge rusher, does. To my untrained eye, he looked every bit as good on the field as Shaq did this past season.What's interesting about it ?
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I didn't say that, did I? Again, I don't know what went down in the draft room but it looks like Rex had an inordinate amount of influence. First four picks used on defense, including a Clemson guy at 1?Whaley handles player acquisition and the picks were his call. Was he supposed to draft players he thought wouldn't fit what the coaching staff wants to do?
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