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So stop with the ridiculous excuses. Let's come up with a plan to get everyone an ID, and they insist they use that ID to vote.
Like in Alabama, where the Republican legislature passed a law requiring drivers licenses (or similar identification) in order to vote, then closed down the DMV offices in all of the black majority counties?
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republicanswhite voters use the absentee ballot thandemocratsminority voters. But that is not an issue that should matter. If the legislators are serious about curtailing voter fraud then they should deal with it where it does exist.This is true and it is why the law that was struck down in North Carolina, which supposedly was intended to reduce voter fraud, made an exception for absentee ballots. I don't know it it's true that there is more voter fraud associated with absentee ballots--the scope of the voting fraud "problem" is so miniscule that it is all but non-existent.
By the way...note to mods...thanks for leaving this on the main page. I know you generally push stuff like this to the dark side, but civility has been good here and as a result the conversation has been pretty good as well.
On this, we can agree.
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The right is not trying to take that right away. They are trying to protect it because voter fraud is so rampant. It stuns me, sometimes, how unbelievably uninformed our electorate is.
This is what is known as The Big Lie. There is zero evidence to support this statement, which has been repeatedly rejected by the federal courts in voting rights cases.
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Trump has now weighed in on this issue, in his usual thoughtful and nuanced fashion: CK's protest against perceived racial discrimination against African-Americans is "a terrible thing", and he should just go live in another country. (Sorry, no link.)
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Don't worry. He won't respond. It doesn't fit his narrative to understand this until the left can explain why its bad.
He doesn't have to respond or explain. The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals already tossed NC's new voter registration law on the grounds that it was intended to illegally suppress the voting rights of African-Americans and other minorities.
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Wait, I thought you wanted this thread closed down????
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On this we agree.
I have a big heart for the black community and I wish I had the power to fix it. I hate thinking about any person feeling hopeless - as I sit in my very comfortable life.
The crappiest part is it's not hopeless - but the mindset of these communities is one nightmare to try and fix. This issue is so daunting it's depressing.
Of course it's not hopeless. They can vote for Trump! After all, what do they have to lose?
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I've only worked for 2 employers as an adult. One for 35 years and one for 12 years. It's been my experience that no matter my personal feelings and problems, as an employee, I am a representative of my employer.
Kaepernick is an employee of the 49er's and by extension, the NFL. Unless and until he's a designated spokesperson for either, he needs support and conform to their philosophy. IF he does not want to do that, he's free to seek other employment.
The guy makes 19 Mil a year. What has he done off the field to demonstrate his position?? On the field, he needs to do what his employer expects him to do, represent the team, and win games. He may have a whole lot of time, in the future, to sit or stand, as much as he wants, on his own time.
No, Kaepernik's rights are protected by the collective bargaining agreement between the league and the NFL Players Association. I've never read it, but I'm pretty sure it protects players from discipline for expressing their political views. So no, CK does not have to "support and conform to [the 49er's and the NFL's] philosophy."
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I'll share 3 experiences from the city of Chicago...
My car got badly sideswiped while parked in the city just as I was about to get in. I did then jump in and chase the sonofabitch a couple miles and pulled him over. The police were called from the scene and also the 2nd scene where he briefly stopped but refused to stay. He took off again but I had name and license plate number. Police came to original scene, I filed report and asked that hit and run charges be filed. Chicago refused to pursue it, it never became a case, they told me that they don't have time. $9K in damage.
My daughter's wallet was stolen recently while riding train in the city. She reported it a couple hours later, police blew her off. She contacted a store where her CC was used and manager looked at video tape with a clear view of the person. She called the police with this info and they said, sorry, can't help you, bigger fish to fry.
While in downtown Chicago and parked, friends car was broken into, briefcase taken with ipad. Called police who wouldn't even send an officer out to the scene. Friend did a locate on the ipad and located ipad a couple hours later in a "very bad neighborhood". Called police who told friend they would not pursue and instructed friend not to try and recover the ipad themselves.
1st 2 instances above were committed by minorities and very likely the 3rd given location of stolen property. Point is that crimes like these in big cities are most likely under-reported in statistics and minorities are probably involved in crimes in big cities more than what reported data shows.
One of the most bizarre and pointless posts ever to appear on this board. And that's saying a lot.
How ironic that the ones most vehemently blasting Kap are most likely to be supporters of a certain Presidential candidate who took every deferment in the book to get out of serving his country (one of the deferments being a bogus bone spur), trashed POWs saying he liked the men who didn't get captured, and trashed a Gold Star family and has refused to apologize. This isn't the United States of America, it's the United States of Cognitive Dissonance.
And that same presidential candidate became the nominee of one of our two major political parties by promoting an agenda so transparently racist that, according to recent polls, he has the support of less than 1 percent of African-Americans.
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Nothing in this thread has a damn thing to do with what he went through, much less the supposed " under appreciation" of same.I just spend the evening with a friend who was in 10th Mountain during Black Hawk Down. I was talking to him about this thread and he can't believe how many people under appreciate what he went through.
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I did not say I agreed or disagreed with Kaep on the underlying issue. Frankly, I haven't studied it that closely and I think there are plenty of other issues he perhaps should have chosen to take a stand on. To me, what's important is that he has taken a principled public stance on a highly controversial issue, without regard to the personal consequences to himself. Contrast that with OJ, for example...What was the racial makeup of the cops who killed Garner? Freddy Gray? The Garner case was brought to a grand jury which, based on evidence and witnesses, did not indict.
The Freddy Gray cops--all 6 were charged with various crimes (one for murder). There were acquitted and the charges were subsequently dropped against the other three.
These may not be the consequences Kaepernick wished for, but they were put through the legal system, not simply ignored.
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I'm not sure if this is true or not (I doubt it), but I think an equally important issue is the perception that cops who unjustifiably kill or brutalize black or minority suspects tend not to be held accountable. That's frequently what leads to unrest.That's where I am as well...there's zero evidence that the issue of police brutality is unique to any race--it's pretty much distributed (statistically) in proportion to the general population
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Wow, that was quite an interview. Agree or disagree with Kaep re the issue of police brutality, there is no question that he is taking a principled stand on a controversial issue, with little concern for the personal consequences. I kinda think it's an admirable and courageous thing to do.Kaep spoke about it for 18 minutes today. Answered all questions asked of him.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2016/08/28/colin-kaepernick-anthem-protest-much-much/
And his comments about the presidential race are interesting--and somewhat surprising
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Hmm, it seems to me YOU are the one "playing the race card", Mr Sharky.Race card gets played all the time
I didn't get any scholarships cause I wasn't a minority, even though i had one parent and was dirt poor. I got passed up for jobs I scored higher on tests because of my skin color.
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Of course. But the appeals court has not reversed the district judge's decision, at least not yet.So when the appeals courts hold up voter id cases, you will equally say that they came to a logical conclusion and they aren't oppressive bigots right?
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Those "ridiculous arguments" were validated by three different federal appeals courts, or maybe it was two appeals courts and one district court. Anyway, nice try.I'm familiar with the cases and the ridiculous arguments used that having an ID or tightening the window or procedure for early and absentee voting hurts minorities. For **** sakes you have to have ID to get a fishing license in most states. Where's the outrage there? If we don't have proof of citizenship and photo ID in the registration and voting process, we don't have integrity in the vote. Everyone can and should get an ID.
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So, in your book, anyone who criticizes this country is "disrespecting" it, and therefore should leave? Got it.The NFL is a business and will do nothing to this idiot for disrespecting his country. What a shame it has come to this in our great nation. What has he ever done to help his country? This ethnic stuff is bull. Tell him to get a life and find another job in another country.
And BTW, what "ethnic stuff" are you talking about? As far as I know, Kaep said absolutely nothing about ethnic origin or discrimination on the basis of it. Or is it all just the same to you?
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You might want to read a newspaper, other than the NY Post. In the last month alone, laws passed by Republucan-controlled legislatures in three different states making it more difficult to vote (or register to vote) have been tossed by the courts because they were intended to have an adverse effect on minority participation in the electoral process. This has been going on for many years and there are several other such laws that may be tossed before the November elections.Oh please. What's being done to make it more difficult for minorities to vote?
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Maybe it's because one of the two major political parties in this country has nominated a man for president whose appeal to voters is so unabashedly racist that, according to multiple polls, he has attracted the support of between 0 and 1 percent of African American voters. Or maybe it's because that same party has dedicated a large part of its resources to enacting state laws whose purpose is to (illegally) make it more difficult for African-Americans and other minorities to exercise their constitutional right to vote.Also, the whole thing makes me a bit sad. I wonder if we have lost our sense of community in our country. I think at one time American's felt a common bond with one another over our commitment to the democratic ideal of liberty, the rule of law, equality, human rights, etc. I don't think we share this any longer. In fact, I think it is sometimes easier to find anger, hatred, or simple indifference to America and the ideals that it represents. I don't know why this has happened, but it is a bit depressing.
Or maybe it's because that same party has conducted an eight year campaign of hatred, ridicule and fear-mongering against our first African American president, while at the same time blaming him for the deterioration of race relations.
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No, they are not "the very things enabling him to express his POV." I think what you mean is the constitution. As you point out, the flag and the anthem are nothing but symbols. Plenty of people love America (and its constitution) but don't give a rip about either the flag or the anthem.You have a point, but the problem is that the Anthem (and our flag), as symbols of our country, are the very things enabling him to express his POV. By showing disrespect for our anthem, Kaepernick publicly undermined the foundation for the freedoms that he enjoys.
So, because Kaep is wealthy and successful he's not allowed to stand up for what he believes are injustices in this country? Only the poor can do that?One thing that stands out to me here in this is the lack of gratitude that Kaepernick shows. For all of the injustices that our nation has been guilty of, it has also given much to Kaepernick (as other posters have pointed out). He looks like a spoiled brat.
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Are you serious? Do you really believe it's not possible that many African-Americans are discriminated against and oppressed, simply because a few black athletes in America are highly paid for their unique skills? Do you not see the fallacy of such a statement?But what makes him a f'ing jerk is that it's difficult to take seriously the point that this country is oppressing black people when that point is being made by a black man who is being paid $19M a year to play a game.
If that's oppression, I'm a gonna git me some.
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why is it so hard to understand that being on the roster, he takes away training and playing time from a WR that might actually amount to something in their careers.
The Bills understand this concept, but plainly they don't agree that Goodwin will never amount to anything. Goodwin has been with the organization since 2013 and the team has watched and coached him in every practice and at every game for which he has suited up since that time. The fact that the team has continued to give Goodwin opportunities--and now have him slotted as the number three receiver--despite his injury history, shows that they think highly of his ability. The Bills, who know Goodwin better than anyone as a teammate and as a football player, are most definitely not on board with your crusade.
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I fail to see why he's still here. He just can't stay on the field and when he does its nothign special
Why is this so hard to understand? Goodwin is here because the Bills believe he is the third-best wide receiver on the team. Period. It also doesn't hurt that he has elite speed and that he is cheap (still on his rookie contract). I'm sure he apologizes to all Bills fans for having been injured previously.
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not having a good camp
I did not follow Shelton during the season last year, but he did look very good against the Bills in the preseason. How is Erving doing?
Kaepernick and the National Anthem
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He was an ingrate...