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4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
Smoking Jay is not Mack. And they are not building the team with Mack, rather filling a hole and putting pressure on Rodgers, etc. Great trade, IMO. One we should have made.
This is more akin to giving up two 1st for Bruce Smith, etc.
Somewhere upthread someone listed all of the veteran players traded for at least two first round picks. Not one of those trades (there are about 10) worked out even remotely well for the team giving up picks. And I guarantee they all thought they were getting a proven all-pro. What could go wrong?
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11 minutes ago, bobobonators said:
I know Oakland fans must feel sick right now. But long-term the Raiders may have last laugh. Thats a lot of picks, and possibly high 1st rd picks, bc i dont think the Bears will win more than 7 games.
No similar trade has ever succeeded. It’s simply no way to build a winning team in the NFL. Bears should have learned after giving Denver two firsts for Smokin’ Jay a few years back,
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19 minutes ago, BBills88 said:
He cant catch for anything
Except against the Bills
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6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
I clearly said that the 5th year option is a designed Trigger point. But thanks
Not what you said
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3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Thanks captain obvious
Go back and look at what you said. You don’t express yourself clearly. And thanks for the gratuitous insult.
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2 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said:
Feel like we’ve got a very long and painful year ahead. Love my team, but optimism at all time low right now.
I sorta feel the same way, but we’re probably feeling that way mostly because of a couple crappy preseason games, especially the Bengals game. Something tells me McDermott will have these guys ready to play and we’ll surprise some people. You can’t believe your eyes when it comes to preseason games.
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5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Both in their 5th year option year. Try again
So was Mack. Drafted same year as those guys.
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8 minutes ago, CSBill said:
And of these players, how many went on to have stellar careers that justified the two picks? I would say one: Eric Dickerson. Maybe Keyshawn J and Joey Galloway, maybe Hershal Walker??? That's it!Dickerson had one very good year after the trade to Indy. One. And they gave up a lot more than two picks for him. I would say not a single one of those trades worked out well for the team that traded picks.
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The Bears probably hope this turns out better for them than the last time they traded two first round picks for a player.
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5 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said:
That defense was terrible, but he put up 10+ for the last three years.
Chicago is a much better situation.
Maybe so, but I suspect that people in Oakland believe Mack’s play dropped off a bit last year. I don’t watch enough Raiders games to say...
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36 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Not one position group got a new deal before entering their 5th year (maybe QB has)
Aaron Donald just did. So did O’Dell.
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1 hour ago, aristocrat said:
If he puts up 15 sacks a year for 5 years do people think it’s worth it? Absolutely
Well, he didn’t do that with Oakland, so
that would be a bit of a surprise, wouldn’t it?
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3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Donald just went out and bought a Haynesworth throwback jersey...
IDK, Donald seems like a totally different kinda cat than Haynesworth.
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1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I agree. The only thing that I can say is it is from a VERY reliable source. My guess is a 2019 2nd and a 2020 1st.
Not two 2ds? Beane needs to hang tough. Raiders will get desperate.
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12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I’ve been told that the Bills offered “2 high picks and Hughes” for Mack. They didn’t know the specifics of the picks but the Raiders turned it down. Mack is very, very interested in Buffalo.
Interesting. “2 high picks” could be most anything. I’m convinced that Beane wants to hold on to 2019 rd 1.
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9 hours ago, dezertbill said:
My thoughts.
Khalil Mack
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Bills 1st in 2019 (which Raiders may think would be a top 10)
Bills 2nd rounder in 2020
Charles Clay
AJ McCarron.
Clay is expendable. I think Leary, Croom, Lee, Thomas, and even Towbridge---Clay's salary doesn't make sense to keep.
He would be a weapon for Gruden's offense, and McCarron would give him a huge upgraded over Connor Cook and EJ Manuel.
Way, way too much.
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17 minutes ago, QCity said:
The real story here is the beginning trend of GM's ripping up rookie contracts. That's the second one Snead has torn up this year.
That’s not really what happened. Donald played all 4 years under his original rookie deal. The fifth year team option, which is much more expensive than the rookie deal, is what got “torn up”. Mack, who was drafted the same year and is the same age as Donald, is making the same play—so far, without success.
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Will be interesting to see the movement when the QB is announced.
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3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
It was 6.5 to 7 as of yesterday.
Now it’s 7. O/U is still 41. Love the under.
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These odds aren’t current; they are from before the Bengals fiasco.
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Just now, Kirby Jackson said:
No it doesn’t. It may price others out but not a team with a QB on a rookie deal and no high priced players!! The Packers may be out at that level. This is good news for the Bills pursuit of Mack.
It’s true. There was always a limited market for Mack, due to his age and salary demands. This narrows it further, and lowers the compensation that the Raiders can command.
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11 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:
6-year, $135 million deal with $87 million guaranteed to stay with the Rams. Will keep him in LA through 2024.
Mack is going to want a similar deal.
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On 8/29/2018 at 3:24 PM, Klaista2k said:
I wish we traded up with the Giants and drafted Darnold.... His bust potential is way lower than Allen's.
Were you impressed with his last season at USC?
What about his preseason makes you think he’s better than Josh Allen?
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AJ clearly loves Western NY. He wants no part of a trade.
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Mack Traded!!!!!!!
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by mannc
Must be. Dickerson of course was part of the Bennett trade.
But look at that list. Not a good trade in the bunch.