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6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
Interesting how some people just cannot accept that you do what your employer wants ( if it is legal of course) OR you go work somewhere else. What could be more fair than that ?
Not every workplace is the same. These are union employees in a highly specialized field. Therefore, they don’t necessarily have to “do what their employer wants”. Get it?
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5 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:
"if, as I suspect." again ... its all assumption with as of now 0 proof, its literally your guess. If I am an NFL owner, and I think Kap is the difference of getting into playoffs or a super bowl... I dont give a crap what another owner says or wishes. Im going to sign him if I think it's worth it... and if these owners try screwing me for doing so - then you take their threats/blackmail whatever to the police/media.....
I admit I don’t know what the evidence is. There is a gag order surrounding the arbitration, but there were rumors that such communications were made by, among others, Jerruh Jones. We’ll have to wait and see. There was at least enough evidence for the arbitrator to allow the case to go forward.
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6 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:
exactly why Kap is not a starter or a backup in the league especially with the media circus.
Maybe some teams. That will be decided by the arbitrator in the grievance case. If, as I suspect, the league or certain owners circulated emails urging teams not to sign Kaepernick because of the protests, then the league is in serious trouble.
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7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
The cool part is how as a society, we're reached a point where people can be outraged that someone is not offered a job because he "deserves" it after walking away for $14m.
This is disinformation. Kaepernick did not walk away from $14 million. John Lynch has publicly stated that the 49ers were going to release him rather than pay him that money, so it's fair to assume that Kaepernick and his agent were so informed.
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4 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:
??????????
its 100% relevant because it shows the going rate for a second year backup and a proven vet back up.............................. I never said "lets go sign Fitz hrur durr."
So I ask you, is Dez being blackballed? He is a better player than many WR's... probably even better than WR's on certain contending teams - yet he is available.Fair enough. I’m surprised Fitz agreed to a play another season for that amount of $. (BTW, according to sportrac, he’s getting $3.3 million.)
i don’t know why Dez hasn’t been signed. Teams might just think he’s not that good any more. And maybe he’s demanding too much $.
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6 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:
You also have no evidence he is actually being blackballed. Seahawks and Baltimore brought him in for a look. You have 0 evidence of him being blackballed, just like I have not heard that he is willing to take a pay cut. Is he better than Peterman? Yep. However if Kapernick is still wanting his 5mil a year, thats too expensive for a backup QB. Thats like people assuming Dez Bryant is being blackballed. "He deserves to work!" Unless you are trying to argue Dez Bryant is not better than Holmes, or Kerley, or Foster, or (insert any Bills WR here)
I agree he is better than Peterman.................................................. However here is Peterman's salary cap charge:
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2018 Salary Cap Charge: $614,877
Also I would rather have Allen learn and grow than watch Kaepernik run around being a slightly more gunslinger version of Tyrod
I would also argue that Fitzpatrick is the most "competent" veteran backup QB out there, and his deal for this year is only 2million.
Peterman's salary is irrelevant...McDermott can't allow him back on the field, at any price. Fitzpatrick's contract is also irrelevant because he's not available right now. I have no idea what Kaepernick would accept...the only way to find out would be to talk to his agent.
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2018 Salary Cap Charge: $614,877
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2 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:
Only thing I have seen him say is "I will stand for the anthem if I was signed." So if you can provide some info of him willing to sign for the going rate for a veteran back up that would be great.
Why would you want a backup QB with the constant media attention/circus, especially if your QB has one bad game.I'm pretty sure Kaep or his agent said something to that effect. Are you aware of any team that has said they would sign him if he agreed to accept veteran backup money?
As to your last question, do you have any doubt that Kaepernick, even after not playing for the past year and a half, is miles better than Nathan Peterman?
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1 minute ago, PolishPrince said:
Ok so answer me this. As he was brought in to multiple teams, or teams might have reached out to his agent... Has there been any indication he is willing to take a pay cut? No one knows ANY of the numbers. For all we know he could be demanding starter money while being offered to be a backup somewhere. Why would you pay your backup 5-7 million a year to just create media controversy if your starter has one bad game, and deal with with the media circus on top of it? Do any backups make anywhere near that amount???
I don’t know the details of those negotiations, if any even occurred, and neither do you. That is obviously something that will be hashed out as part of his grievance arbitration against the league. However, I’m pretty sure Kaepernick has publicly said he would sign for far less than he was previously making.
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1 minute ago, DC Tom said:
That, and he's not very good. His last year was his best...and he was 17th in the league. Then he quit. Then after no one signed him, he whined that it was about his politics, because it's apparently inconceivable that no one would want a mediocre QB who quits on his team.
Kaep's not playing because of Kaep.
C’mon, you know that teams aren’t refusing to sign him because he quit. Did teams turn their backs on Khalil Mack because he refused to play for the Raiders, despite still being under contract and having no ability to opt out?
Yes, I figured out that Dexter is not worth egaging with. Surprised he’s allowed to post here.
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8 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:
This Kap talk is so dumb, whenever someone points to crappy QB. Kap was making... what 7mil a year? Elway said they offered him a job for less money and Kap turned it down (way to be a victim Kap). How much does Peterman make since we are comparing the two? I bet it;s a lot less than 7mil....
Not sure why people forget A) the player/agent has to agree to the contract and team... B) There is such thing as cap space to consider.This is misinformation and more intellectual dishonesty—by both you and Elway. The Broncos supposedly offered Kaep $7 million in connection with trade talks with the 49ers in 2016, BEFORE Kaepernick began protesting. Kaep did not want to restructure his contract at that time.
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1 minute ago, Returntoglory said:
Semantics. Opted out = Quit
Stop. You know very well that’s not why teams have refused to sign Kaepernick.
2 minutes ago, LaDexter said:time for Kaepernick.... to be deported to Africa.
Time for you to go back to the white supremacist chat room you crawled out of.
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1 minute ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:
He was not, in fact, cut. He had a job and left that job. Spin it all you want. He quit. He sacrificed everything.
Did Khalil Mack quit on the Raiders? He was under contract and STILL refused to play for them.
Kaepernick most likely was informed by the 49ers that he would be released and decided to opt out instead. That’s certainly no reason for a team not to sign him, and that makes your argument a dishonest one.
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2 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:
He had a job and voluntarily left it. He quit.
That is false. He opted out of his contract, which would have guaranteed him $16 million, only when it became clear that the 49ers were going to cut him anyway. So thanks for another intellectually dishonest post.
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Just now, DC Tom said:
Yes, he did. He opted out of his contract.
That’s not “quitting”. It’s opting out of his contract to become a free agent. Plenty of players have done it. It turned out to be a poor decision for his career but it hardly makes him a quitter. Your post is intellectually dishonest and you know it.
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3 hours ago, DC Tom said:
If only Kaepernick hadn't quit, he might be playing.
People forget that: he walked away from his team. No one wants to sign a player that does that.
Except he didn’t.
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3 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:
Please stop. The players that came into the AFL in the early 60's were NFL cuts or old men, undrafted college players, and CFL players looking for another shot. The majority of the CFL's best players were American players that could not make the NFL, many of them played in the early AFL. Cookie Gilchrest, one of the best Bills players in the 60's played in the CFL.
It was 1961. The Bills were one year old and they sent their scrubby team to play a preseason under Canadian league rules .. big field, 3 downs, etc. Never mind the Canadians league starts games months earlier than the AFL and NFL did. The Bills were not prepared and they were not very good that day. They were two years away from a Power House team.
This has nothing to do with what we saw in Baltimore yesterday.
The Bills are not jinxed. McDermott is not horrible. He was totally outcoached and unprepared for the season opener, no doubt about that. McDermnott and Beane are learning as they go. It sucks but it is true.
He and Beane started the season with a mess at QB, OL and WR. They need to own that. They both lack experience at their jobs and we are seeing it right now. To think that McCarron, Peterman and Allen was a good group to go to camp with was a crazy notion all along. There were lots of veteran QB in the free agent mix and this is what we got to start training camp.
If Peterman is still on the roster on Sunday, we’ll know they haven’t learned their lesson. There is no way he is qualified to step on an NFL field, even as a backup.
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10 hours ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:
The Bills shouldn't be taking anyone with the #1 pick. They need to trade down if possible to get as many picks as they can get.
Yes, but we need to hope that a QB or two emerges so that other teams will want to trade up. Teams aren’t going to give up much to trade up for a defensive lineman, no matter how good.
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5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:
That is my feeling too. But there have been a lot of good coaches and GMs who made glaringly bad choices on QBs.
True. If Allen pans out, all is forgiven.
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Peterman is finished in the NFL. He’s nowhere near capable of even serving as a temporary backup. He needs to be released tomorrow and a street free agent signed to back up Allen.
What’s truly terrifying about the Peterman episode is what it says about Beane and McDermott’s ability to evaluate NFL quarterbacks.
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Just now, Watkins90 said:
Look at that. Even with the great game from Mack the Bears weren’t victorious.
I don’t know how anyone could have watched the Bills game and the Bears game and thought it would have been a good idea for the Bills to give up their next two first round picks for Mack, no matter how good he his.
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1 hour ago, McD said:
I was begging for us to do this last year. We could have gotten out of #7 overall, and picked up Linemen on both sides of the ball, and/or a WR. Stupid....
Umm, no.
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If it makes anyone feel better, Tyrod is still a bad QB.
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Really? A FG? Down by 40 points?
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How’s that McCarron trade looking?
Hypothetical 2019 scenario, please comment
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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No matter how bad Allen looks this year, there is zero chance they spend a first round pick on another qb.