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  1. 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

    I’m not advocating for signing him, but the Bengals are a very risk-averse organization. He never was competing with Dalton for the starting job. He would not have been named starter no matter how good he looked. Dalton is their starter and he’s “good enough” for Mike Brown just like Marvin is “good enough” 

    Yep, the fact that Marvin Lewis didn’t bench Dalton to give him a chance really doesn’t concern me.  He’s incredibly conservative and risk averse.

  2. 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

     

    He has been used a ton and has a very physical style ...  he also doesn't have breakaway speed...that should backs teams off him just enough to make him last to the mid rounds

     

    as a spell back behind Shady , with maybe 5 healthy pounds lost with training, he would look faster and still run with great vision and finishing power 

     

    plus having a smaller workload than he did at Oregon will preserve him 

    Don’t forget that he has very good hands and would be a weapon in the passing game.

  3. 4 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

    We all know the Bills need a Better RB to spell Shady. But should we acquire him in FA or the draft?

     

    This is a pretty deep RB class with good RBs through the first 3 maybe 4 rounds...

     

    I guy I would really have my eyes on would be Royce Freeman of Oregon. He is big (6ft 230lb) runs with good vision and patience and can be the bruiser we need in the run game

     

    He can block, and has decent hands as well so he is versatile 

     

    spelling Shady he will be even more effective and would be a great compliment to our run game 

     

    He is comfortable in a zone or power scheme as well

     

    id love to have him in the 3rd or 4th if he somehow fell

     

    (Discussion of Mid/Late round picks)

     

     

    Great call.  I’ve seen almost all his college games and he’ll be a very good pro.  Only concern is high mileage and a physical running style that causes him to absorb a lot of hits.  Will be interesting to see his times at the combine.  If he doesn’t run particularly well (which is possible), he could be available in round 5, at which point he would be very good value.

  4. 12 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

     

    Using statistics for game situations isn't exactly new, and it's something every team does. Hell, Marv Levy had binder after binder after binder of statistical information on opposing offenses and defenses when he was coaching in the 80's and 90's. Any coach worth a crap knows that his opponent runs a certain defense x% of the time in a given situation.

     

    The OP is trying to confuse analyses of opponent tendencies and Moneyball-type analytics.

    No, he's not.  That's what you're doing.  He's talking about core football analytics, which involves game-time decisions such as when to punt, kick a FG or go for it on fourth down. 

  5. 10 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

    Yes, this Superbowl was sort of a landmark event in showing the way for the future with NFL franchises.

     

    Analytics played a big role in the game and anyone who ignores it going forward is doing so to their own detriment.

     

    It can't be over-stated how conservative and slow to embrace change NFL culture is.

     

     

    Absolutely.  Just listen to the brain-dead announcers: On the radio during the Super Bowl, Boomer absolutely savaged Pederson for going for the TD on fourth and goal from the 1 ("Take the points!"), as if the Eagles were playing the Bills in a 6-3 snoozefest.  As it turned out, of course, they needed every point they could get.  And of course it was completely lost on Boomer that if the Eagles had gone for it and failed, the Pats would take over on their own 1-yard line. 

     

    It's entirely possible that the Bills did have a "robust" analytics department, but that McDermott just decided to ignore it.  If so, that would be a huge problem.     

  6. 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

     

    The Giants should take heed from the drafting of Kamara and Hunt in the 3rd round last season and there's also the deep/talented 2018 RB class to consider.

    You’re right, but they won’t.  Seems there are always teams willing to foolishly spend high first round picks on RBs.

  7. On 1/25/2018 at 5:00 PM, dneveu said:

     

    It's also great in baseball because there are sooooooo many leagues, soooooo many players.  You can't watch them all.  You can look at numbers, and pull out a top 50 prospect list of guys you like, and then from there watch tape.  Still always comes down to tape. 

     

    Football there are things you can analyze - whether you should go for 2 in x situation, win probabilities etc.  But you can't really use it for accurate player evaluation.  So many positions literally have no stats at the end of a game.  I assume coaches see on film when a run goes for no yards, who is at fault.  I don't need a computer to tell me that.

    I’ve never thought of analytics as a tool for player evaluation in football, but rather for game day situational decision making, like when to punt or when to go for two.

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  8. On 1/26/2018 at 9:09 AM, dave mcbride said:

    What do you make of that quote, CB? I personally think that Eli's obit has been written prematurely. He's still a quality qb who can make the throws and simply needs a much, much better running game, o-line, and healthy receivers.

    Is it also conceivable that the Giants like Davis Webb, or at least want to see what he’s got before they use the second pick in the draft on another QB?

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