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Interesting comments from Benjamin Allbright on Chad Kelly:
Chad Kelly will probably get a shot on bloodlines, but there's nothing about this tape that says "NFL QB"
Scout to me: Kelly is day 3/PUDFA at best, & that's if you're willing to put up with him off the field...short, middling tools, HS offense.
Wait, I thought we were supposed to tank for him this year. Now I'm confused.
UCLA LT Conor McDermott looks to be a Taylor Decker clone. Similar stature, technique, basketball background, inherent weakness with pad level. Even wear the same number.
Both have plenty of power and nasty in the run game. McDermott will be 24 this October so that might hamper his value.
Big issue is durability. Left the Stanford game in the 1st. Left the Utah game in the 3rd. Two previous shoulder surgeries.
But I've heard here that shoulder surgeries are routine and have zero impact on a player's career, right???
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Oh, well. I guess I can only dream of having insight as keen as yours apparently is.Like I said, little insight.
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I can see that your astute sports observations are not limited to football.That's a joke. He couldn't do it by himself so he went to Wade's team and Wade won it for him. Wade has won a ring without Lebron, but Lebron can't win one without Wade. If they lose this series, he's gonna go crawling back to Miami like the loser he is.
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Sorry, I don't know how "these relationships work." What I do know is that Schwartz was under contract to the Bills for at least two more years. As such, he had no right to "opt out". If the Bills did not hold him to the contract it was their choice, not his. He was not a free agent.Pegula asked. Schwartz said no. End of story. No need to make more of it than it is.
As to your second paragraph, I can only say it shows a lack of insight into how these relationships work.
GO BILLS!!!
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And I'll be as succinct as possible: Schwartz was under contract with the Bills and he did not have the right to "decline" to serve as DC just because someone else was hired as HC.I will be as succinct as possible. Early in the first week of January 2015, shortly after Marrone quit, Schwartz was interviewed for the HC job. He was among the first, actually. During that interview, he was asked by Terry Pegula himself if he would be interested in staying on as DC if they decided to hire someone else as HC. Schwartz declined. Again, Schwartz declined. This occurred before the first interview with Rex Ryan, let alone the 2nd interview and then the decision to hire him.
It may be worth it to mention why Schwartz declined. The way I understand it is, he didn't think it would be fair to a new HC to not have a say in his staff.
Seems this was all discussed here shortly after Ryan was hired and people started moaning about Schwartz. This is old ground. Believe what you want. But there were people in that building who were in a position to know.
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If Pegula decided not to hold Schwartz to his contract, that's an entirely different matter. But if that's true, then it was Pegula's CHOICE to let him out of the contract, not Scwartz's choice to decline to serve as DC because he wasn't "interested" in doing so. If Pegula wanted him to be the Bills' DC in 2015, Schwartz would have had no other choice--except to take a couple years off without pay.
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Yes, false. Schwartz was under contract with the Bills for two more seasons as their DC. He did not have the option to unilaterally decide he did not want to serve as DC under Rex or whichever HC the Bills brought in, unless he wanted to sit out for two years without pay, any more than Sammy had the option not to play for the Bills under Rex. The Bills might have released Schwartz as a courtesy, or more likely, with the understanding that Rex wanted Thurman anyway, but it does not change the fact that Schwartz did not have the choice to decide not to serve as DC just because he was not named HC.Not false. He was interviewed for the HC position before RR was even a gleam in anyone's eye and he informed Pegula and Co. during that interview that he was not interested in staying unless he was hired as HC. They were hoping he would entertain the idea of staying on should they hire somebody else for the HC position, not knowing at the time that it would end up being a coach with different ideas about playing defense.
This idea that Rex "fired" him is somewhat misleading. He was "fired" as a professional courtesy so as to continue to collect his annual $2m salary, which had two more years to run. Schwartz was never going to work with RR given what he said the week before during his interview with the brass, not to mention their disparate philosophies on defensive football.
Not sure why any of this matters at this point, anyway. I mean other than to further make RR the heavy who fired the popular DC. It was a bit more nuanced than that.
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Not saying this isn't true, but is there any evidence to support this statement? I'm not aware of any.The Pegula's are very smart owners
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False. He was under contract to the Bills for at least 2-3 more years. He was going nowhere unless he got a head coaching offer, which was highly unlikely. If Rex had not fired him, Schwartz would have been DC last year.IMO I don't think schwartz stayed unless he was HC.
Not if they were still under contract. It's not an option, unless you plan to retire.Has a coordinator ever quit because they weren't promoted? Serious question.
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Obviously, because people want to talk about it. If you don't care, then why do you post so frequently on this topic?? Why, why, why??Why is anyone still arguing about a guy that has less than 20 receptions and 3 TDs in 3 years???
Why? Why? Why?
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BADOL, so you are saying Glass is a bad teammate. Do you have any evidence that Goodwin is disliked or resented in the lockerroom due to the reasons you have identified? For that matter, do you have any evidence that the injuries he has suffered as a Bill were caused by his pursuit of his track career, as opposed to bad luck or just being small? I agree that he has been a disappointing draft pick so far--especially since Markus Wheaton was available and picked next by the Steelers--but I would argue that that is primarily because of injuries. He still has enormous untapped ability and potential, which is what makes this a topic worth discussing, still.I don't hate the guy I merely have very little respect for him. Why you care so much is the more interesting question.
I get it.........this forum has some people who would gladly mislead their employer("I'm a football player first who just happens to run track") and leverage every opportunity to have them pay for them to not do their job so they could pursue non-paying interests in financial comfort.
I understand that it's easy to find socio-economic examples to support selfish behavior.............but that is still a huge character flaw.
Men have traditionally judged other men based on the "would I want this guy in a foxhole" with me.........and frankly, this guys actions have been ultra-selfish so he would probably use mannc as a human shield and then when everyone else has starved out he will bust out the vegan cheesecake he had hidden in his man-purse.
No-account, selfish mofo's are in abundance................but guys that run a 4.28 and have tremendous movement skills for a WR are not...........so we appreciate your sacrifice mannc.
The way to handle people that use is to keep them at arms length, use them back and top-grade them out the second they lose value.
You could argue that NFL teams already do that.........but that's just the nature of the profession.
That doesn't speak to his teammates, the personnel people who put their reputation on the line for him, the fans who support the game that pays his salary etc..
To that point about a user,...........the second he is back on the field he has my full support because I want big plays and touchdowns.......and the quickest way to get him back on the field is for him to tank again in the Olympics and get him focused on that "second contract".
Hence, I am rooting for another faceplant for Goodwin in the olympics! 
Nothing personal, I just want to win football games..........couldn't care less about anything else he does because I don't respect how he's handled the privilege of being a Buffalo Bill.
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How the hell do you know what Goodwin told his employer? And how do you know that whatever he told them was false and led to the Bills "investing millions of dollars into him"? What provision of his contract did Goodwin violate? Is there a provision in Goidwin's contract that says football has to be the number 1 priority in his life, or is it just your opinion that there should be such a provision? Again, I do not understand the irrational hatred of this guy by Bills fans.He misled his employer into investing millions of dollars into him, for a job he wasn't committed to. At its core, that's dishonest.
So what? If the Bills don't like it, they can cut him...and another team will sign him in 5 minutes, because, as you have acknowledged, he has talent, despite the injuries.Takeaways:
This dude has somehow managed to LOSE seven pounds......hence the muppet-look at the podium.
Then his first reaction to how much he cares about football isn't that he wants to win a championship or become a great player or teammate........it's........"I want a second contract"......and he wonders why people question his dedication to the game.
His wife wants the NFL to know that he won't be in "football-shape" until after the final roster cut-downs..........so please don't judge him......we don't want to have to get.....gulp.....jobs!
After choking in the Olympics and doing jack squat in his first two years in the NFL he wonders why Nike cancelled their endorsement deal with him after he got his ribs busted doing one of the dumber things you will ever see on the field......running blindly back toward a 350# DL and all but assuring yet another year of doing jack squat as a pro athlete.
He feels that he *deserves* an endorsement deal because he has a double degree from UT, loves his family........and does charity events.......which he has time to do because he makes $700K per year, doesn't have anywhere he has to be 10 months of the year(when he's not on IR or in the offseason), has no kids etc.............what a trooper........Nike should give him $200M so he can focus on his food blog!
You don't get star treatment when you are a fringe player.............and when you squander talent people don't admire you.
Why the hatred for this guy? Players squander talent all the time, in much less admirable ways: laziness, overeating, drug abuse, assaulting women and ending up in jail...And I would argue that Goodwin's football problems have more to with bad luck than they have to do with his "hobby". Can you prove otherwise?
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[quote name="JaxBills" post="3970673" timestamp="1466375029
not, you're right. He slipped to us for no reason.
He didn't "slip" to us. That's a myth. 19 is about where most of the mock drafts I saw had him going--before the injury became public knowledge. And yes, some teams appparently knew about Shaq's shoulder injury, and flagged him as a result, but that does not prove he would not have otherwise been available at 19. -
No, you said "everyone" knew before the draft, and that clearly wasn't the case; again, I challenge you to produce a single pre-draft report mentioning Shaq's shoulder. It was clearly kept quiet, unlike Jack's knee. Do I believe the Bills took him without knowing the extent of the injury? They probably knew something, but I really don't know if they were incompetent or just dishonest in the statements they made afterward. Probably a bit of both.If we were talking about Jan, Feb or march.. OK. But I'm not going back some unspecified amount of time. When he was drafted, this was no secret. Im saying the bills knew what they were getting into in april.
Nothing the Bills have said strikes me as a lie. We were talking about what the bills have said about the situation...or do you believe the Bills took him without knowing....?
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Really? Show me a single pre draft report or mock draft that mentioned Shaq Lawson's shoulder problem, especially that he would need surgery sooner or later. I paid fairly close attention and I read zero mention of Shaq's shoulder until Shefter's post-draft tweet. It appears not to have been widely known.Everyone knew he had an issue. Most folks believed he could wait till the end of the season to have surgery.
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Funny, I WAS discussing the Lawson pick with JfH when you unleashed your hatchet job on behalf of OBD. My opinion just did not toe the party line.No one cares. Shaq Lawson is the topic. You're locking him in as a bust or what ?
When the hit at 1:38 is on Brady not Brad Kaaya everyone will be happy.
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Wait a minute. You said "When you get something right, I'll salute you. Hasn't happened yet". So, again, what have I been wrong about? Or were you just taking a mindless shot at someone who is not on board with OBD's every move? Yep, that's what I thought.I'm not going thru the archives to find your takes. You will write a new book of them. I'll point them out in the future if you want.
Enough of this back and forth. Talk about shaq. I'm not muddying up the thread anymore with mannc's bad takes talk.
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RLB, please tell me what I have been wrong about, other than applauding the hiring of Rex Ryan. I'm waiting.
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It happens maybe 10 times per season, I would guess, and almost invariably, the coach makes the easy call to play for OT and no one thinks twice about it. Whether a team should go for two in that situation will depend on a lot of factors. How good is your kicker? Is he automatic on PATs? Are you playing on the road? Do you have a lot of injuries? How much confidence do you have in your offense or the other team's defense? Do you have a two-point conversion package that you like? What is the weather like? It's not always a good idea to go for two in that situation, but it at least deserves serious consideration, coaches almost never do it, and TV announcers never even discuss the possibility.How often does this situation arise? And are you going to be the first to forgive your coach for losing a game on an unsuccessful two-point conversion try? Let me guess, you will laud his courage in the face of conventional wisdom; for not bowing to a conformity that says he must. How many times will you cut him that slack? Every time?
GO BILLS!!!
And to answer your last question, I would never be unhappy with my team's coach if he makes a bold decision to try to win a game and it does not work out, as long as there was strong logic behind the decision. I would be far more upset if my coach just fell back on the conventional wisdom, without thinking things through.
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Yes, and another part of the CBA is that a player can refuse to sign a franchise tag tender. So how are these guys "not honoring the contract" by refusing to sign one?You are making stuff up - part of contract is ability to cut people. How and when is was agreed to by NFLPA.
Because part of agreement is ability to be cut including injury settlements.
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And the above is a perfect example: Never actually offer a fresh or thoughtful football insight or opinion; just take cheap shots at Bills fans who are not 100 percent down with OBD's fabulously successful program. Carry on.I have a take. It's that your takes are consistently laughable (with all due respect)
Want a football take ? Cam Newtons good, Ryan Fitzpatrick bad.
Shaq Lawson is good. Lot of Clemson players are lately.
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And your next actual take on a football related topic will be your first. John and I frequently disagree, but he always has a take that is worth responding to or discussing.Can't listen to him jfh. His whole offseason has been a repetitive application for the NNN club.
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That should be the case, but I don't think it is. Otherwise we would not see so many teams punting on fourth and short near or inside mid-field. NFL coaches are a hide-bound group who are afraid of anything different. I agree, however, that there is insufficient data right now to support going for two every time, although coaches should do it more often, for example, when they score a TD at the end of the game and a 1point conversion would send the game to OT, but a two pointer would win.When it can be shown to coaches that going for 2 has a direct impact in the win column, they will climb aboard. Not before. Until then, the "When to go for 2" chart suffices just fine.
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As I understand it, the numbers do not support going for 2 all the time. I think the success rate on two-point conversions last year was around 46% and for 1-pointers it was around 93%, so it's basically a push. But if you have weak kicker and a strong two-point conversion package, the numbers could swing in favor of going for two almost all the time. But i don't expect any NFL coach to do it, including Belichick.
But if the analytics, right now (as many have argues, including mannc) support going for 2 all the time, it would make no sense not to commit to that right now. If your analytics tell you it's 50%, why would every team give it a go?
If 85% of games are won by a margin of greater than 3 points, the benefit of a few extra points over a season doubtfully will alter a team's record.
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Exactly. And the reason no one does it is because it's easier to just do what everyone else has done from time immemorial. If a team wins two games by going for two, but blows one when a two pointer fails, the criticism would be merciless (but wrong).He did say "if" in the post. Until a team commits they don't really know the rates they will convert. Otherwise, his point stands that statistically over time you should come out ahead in the win column if you are scoring more points- even if you get a cluster of misses that costs a game across a small sample, you should have that countered by clusters that win 2 games in the long haul (oversimplified but conceptually is there)
Is 2 Seasons Enough ?
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I agree that Marrone's 9-7 record was a mirage, but the win vs. NE was certainly no less suspect than the Bills' meaningless win against the pathetic Kellen Moore-led Cowboys in Week 15 this past year. Both Bills teams racked up wins after being eliminated from playoff consideration; both teams' records were therefore somewhat misleading, so I guess I can't disagree with your overall point that there was no "marked difference" between them.
As for the "Rex deserves more than 2 years" argument, I can't agree. Rex was not starting from scratch with a team like Cleveland or J-ville that had bottomed out; he inherited a talented roster, especially on the defensive side of the ball. And then there is his lousy record in his last four years with the Jets to consider. Again, Rex is not some fresh-faced coordinator who is just learning the ropes as a HC. He is what he is and he arrived in Buffalo with some baggage that can't be ignored in assessing his fitness to serve. Two years is more than enough for him to demonstrate that he knows what he's doing. He's not off to a good start.