LancasterSteve

Pittsburgh 31 Seattle 27 Late 4th quarter TD wins it for the stillers.

Moving Williams would be a tough sell IMHO. Won't he be banned for life from the NFL for one more failed drug test?

Point Value Chart..........you are right, a lot more http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr.../TradeValue.htm

Thanks for the reminder Dave. Forgot that he played on the same line as Peppers Ngata is a good player and would be an excellent fit on the Bills. After the combine and workouts to follow the rearranging of draft boards will give us a clearer picture on how this will play out. Lotta time till the draft

I remember the hype over Ryan Sims. This is from Ourlads football guide last April: "Ryan Simms has yet to make the impact the Chiefs expected inside despite the presence of Gunther Cunningham. They could invest another high round pick here because their overall production rates at just average across the board" An argument I guess could be made not to draft any lineman either on the offensive or defensive side of the ball early because there have been busts last season there were 16 LT (out of 32 teams) who were drafted in the first round compared with 18 DT (one is a backup, the others were starters at the beginning of last season) There were 56 DT's positions because some teams play a 3-4 while others employ a 4-3 set. So if my fuzzy math is almost correct; 50% of the LT's starting today were drafted in the first round while only about a third of the starting defensive tackles were drafted in the first round. It still boils down to if your team has good scouts and your GM can take this info and make good selections come draft day.

I see you came onboard here after the 02 draft so I have no idea if you read the Wall around draft time that year. The BIG debate was over who the Bills would draft with the fourth pick. Bryant McKinnie was the big "hype" in left tackles with more than one poster here really pitching for the Bills to draft him, LOL. Some of the posters who have been around for a while might remember that at the time I reported that Donahoe and Williams went down to work out Mike Williams in Texas and were quite impressed. They even had Williams work out of a left side stance. The most I ever got out of anyone after the fact on why the Bills didn't draft McKinnie was that there were some "red flags" in the decision not to draft him. Nothing I ever heard insinuated that McKinnie's agent was the reason the Bills passed on drafting him, as was posted here. Drafting Mike Williams I know now was Donahoes' decision and his alone. Character does indeed play a big part in who the Bills have drafted in the past. They have been burned in that aspect like many other teams for its imposible to know everything about a player but if there were questions about a players character that they knew about, the Bills passed him over. I admit I haven't come even close to watching college ball this year like I have in the past so this was my first chance to see D'Brickashaw play. I did however see Williams play before the Bills drafted him in 02. Watch the feet, this guy is a Wiiliams clone. Williams was called a "dancing Bear" light on his feet, etc you get the point. Maybe it was a "fluke game" for D'Brickashaw to get beat inside twice, but that just shouldn't happen to a dominating left tackle IMHO.

Jay, count Lisa and I in. Maybe Lisa's niece and husband also if the game is on the weekend.

Well IM in Puerto Rico....so I will be smiling while dreaming of all the snow IM not missing in Lancaster

Hugs Your way Cindy...IM so sorry

Happy Birthday Cindy !!! and many, many more

Happy Birthday Lisa !!!!! My Lisa sends a BIG Happy Birthday wishes your way also. We miss you guys.

Didn't we all Day wasn't a total loss, it was good to see You again

Might be.....I have mentioned "The Wall" to TD on more than one occasion

Happy, Happy, Happy Birthday Anmarie

Big Tree Inn

Leopards don't change their spots....see steelers Donahoe thinks the bucks are coming out of his pocket...and Ralph still likes him sigh

Who is the OL scout ? Name escapes me, but if I remember correctly I think he was second assistant to the assistant of the guy that scouts college offensive lines for the Stillers Nevermind that the Stillers let him go and he is willing to work for a hot meal, this is yet another brilliant move by TD in the never ending quest to save RW some bucks by being...cheap, cheap, cheap

Yep those players involved could end up in deep doo-doo with the Feds. Charges could very well be placed as a violation of the Mann Act. See Here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjohnso/MannAct.htm You are right Jay;they are Morons and if it turns out that any of the girls, working as part of the staff on the boat are under 18, the Feds could throw away the key. And if this is the case, I hope they do.

That's a start. BTW while out at OBD today I overheard one of the guys say that that O-line has decided on a new nickname....The Turnstiles

Only the one's that play o-line for the Bills

Amen

Oh the answer to that is easy. Clements..."well we stopped trying to run even though Willis was doing a pretty good job early in the game because of the little faith we have in our offensive line. We didn't want to risk an injury to McGahee and put it on Losman's shoulders to run for his life; but gee wiz NO's defensive players are just so fast!!!! We talked about trying something different, but as I stand here I can honestly tell all of you that we just couldn't think. You know the deer in the headlights thing...sort of".

Preseason prediction: 11-5 Prediction after week 3: 4-12 Prediction after this game: 2-14 We look just like the 84 and 85 Bills. 461584[/snapback] Reminded me of the 68 Bills. QB Dan Darragh had a total of 917 yards passing and RB Max Anderson had a total of 525 yards rushing for the season behind almost the mirror of an o-line that we have today. They couldn't punch their way out of a paper bag! Pathetic bunch of imposters playing O-line today and that's squarely on Donahoe's shoulders!!

Exactly !!!!

The only other back from that era that I tought was better IMHO was Jim Brown.