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Sure sounds like revisionist history to me. The niners may have given up on him but the Patriots certainly didn't. For those of you too young to remember, the Patriots did not give up on Jim Plunkett. Did they bench him-yes they did-because they decided to try rookie Steve Grogan to go in for a banged up Plunkett and he played well enough for the Pats to market Plunkett for a boatload of picks. Plunkett was so well thought of around the league that the Patriots were able to trade Plunkett for another QB & 4 high draft choices-3 #1s & a #2. 3 ##1s & a #2 + a player is hardly sending a guy to the scrap heap. I hope the next time the Bills give up on a player that some team gives us 3 #1s a #2 and a player . Also-if it takes that long to develop a QB, why did Grogan have so much success starting from the middle of his rookie year?

It's too early to tell, it all depends on how Richie Incognito turns out. Here's why: If Richie Incognito was cut every other day, he would have been in jail for murdering the guy who informed him. Klopfenstein is the Ghandi of the Bills-he takes these cuts & re-signs in stride, just grateful for the chance. If Klopfenstein can teach Incognito how to take things calmly in stride without any violence, then Incognito could have a great rest of the season & career with the Bills. For his efforts working on calming Incognito down, Mahatma Klopfenstein may very well end up as the most valuable Buffalo Bill.

Troy Vincent broke rookie JP Losman's leg in an attempt to teach him a lesson. Did it really matter if it was intentional or just a consequence that his lesson went further than intended?

Why would anyone want Holmgren as their GM? When he was coach/GM in Seattle his drafts were pretty weak. On top of that, he drafted a bunch of thugs including a 1st round TE Jerramy Stevens who skated on a rape. Then the team woke up & stripped him of the GM duties. I'm glad Holmgren wants to be a GM or Czar & wants nothing to do with the Bills, because I want nothing to do with him. Good coach, horrible GM.

The Brohmans are starting to get a little annoying too. Given up on after a year in GB, signed to practice squad, GB wanted to match but never do better than our offer, never has played a down in the NFL, yet should be our starting QB after a month with the team.

Ralph has never been senile, although the posters who call him senile might be. Either that or just plain stupid.

Last summer they put the 1st three seasons on demand before season 4 to get anyone who wanted to catch up ready. They might do that again this summer. If they do, it's not all at once, but in steps, 1st half of season 1, 2nd half, 1st half season 2 etc.

Fixed

Close enough to hang out in the Castro District. Can't do that if he signed with Indy.

My money is on Polian too-that's why Indy didn't sign him and trainwreck Al Davis did.

So what does not getting signed by Polian & getting signed by Al Davis mean? Following the Rob Johnson footsteps of ending his regular season career with Oakland.

2nd round picks don't get stashed on practice squads if they show anything, because when you get waived anyone can claim you & then anyone can sign you off a PS at any time. If anyone thought he was any good, GB would have been able to trade him in preseason if there was no room for him. He was a bust in GB & the Bills took a flyer on a guy who nobody in the NFL views as a possible starting QB.

You're thinking Monday Night-there's always a Sunday night game the final week.

If Brohm doesn't start this season, will you admit you're wrong? I'll admit I'm wrong that the team just took a flyer on the guy and has no intention of starting him if he does start. I just don't believe this team actually believes they can find their QB of the future on anyone's practice squad. Nobody picked up the guy on waivers-even Kevin O'Connell was picked up on waivers (and subsequently traded) while this guy just lingered on GB's practice squad. However, considering this group thought they could replace Jason Peters with a weak 7th round pick, anything is possible. If we get any competent people running the football side by April, Brohm will just be an afterthought-something I think he already is.

If New Orleans is undefeated, that game could be the flexed game instead. It makes more sense because a night game at Carolina is much warmer than a night game in Buffalo.

Amazing episode to end season 4. By the time it's over, it really makes season 5 a can't wait. I won't give any details, but it may just may be the best season finale of any show I've ever watched. At the end, all I could say was WOW!

Unless he renegotiates his deal, nobody is trading for Vick. Philly is going to either have to let him go or sign him to a new deal. Right now, with his current contract, his trade value is lower than Trent Edwards'.

I couldn't figure out what he was doing on 4th & 10 down 6 with over 2 minutes left. He should have kicked the field goal & then decided whether to onside kick or kickoff-either way he gets the ball back with a little over a minute if the Bills go 3 & out, like they did. Instead of having to score a TD, all he would have needed was a FG to tie & send the game into OT. I'd rather have multiple downs to try to win a game than just 1 low percentage down. 4th & 2 or less, go for it-4th & 10 kick the field goal and get within 3. Also, if he doesn't waste his 2 other timeouts, he doesn't even worry about running out of time.

Re-wound to 1997. I'm not a big fan of trading for backups with limited experience based on a good game or 2.

Then why isn't it obvious to you that signing Brohm was just a flyer by the present front office and the guy isn't ready (and may never be) to start in the NFL? That's the message that keeps coming out of 1 Bills Drive, but it's not getting through to the Brohmans. The bottom line is some guy you pick up off the scrap heap will have no bearing on whether or not we take a QB in the 1st round.

It could be that next season, Fitzpatrick will be the only one of the present QBs on the opening day roster. As others have stated, his own teammates have endorsed Trent's benching. As far a Brohm is concerned, he's nothing better than a guy Green Bay waived & for 2/3 of the season nobody made a move to get him off GB's practice squad. The worst arguments of the start Brohm group I've heard is when we offered him a contract, GB tried to MATCH it. I never heard that GB thought enough of him to offer anything that exceeded our offer. Unless you're destoyed by injuries to all your QBs, no team takes a guy off the scrap heap who has never taken a single NFL snap-except for preseason, and makes him the starter to see what he's got. The basic assumption on Brohm has to be a bust who is filling a roster spot who has no business starting anytime soon. Anyone with the delusion that he's anything more than that is really grasping at straws. It's almost the equivalent of a Colts fan expecting Drew Willy to eventually be the successor to Peyton Manning.

Good thing I don't bet football

I'm calling it as Tampa Bay over the Jets. With a QB duo of Clemens and O'Connell the Jets could be in for a long day down south.

Brohm -3rd QB Jenkins Youboty HARDY Harris Klopfenstein Ellis McCargo

Jerry Sullivan = Trent Edwards Both not Bills fans. Jerry does have some good points & I'm looking forward to what his take is after the game in both his column & on WGR. I'm listening to the pregame show on 97 Rock & the combination of KC's poor starts and their weak secondary gives the Bills an excellent chance of getting ahead early & never looking back. I wonder what Jerry will say after the Bills win.