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Jimmy Clausen PFW scouting report
Albany,n.y. replied to Albany,n.y.'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
How's this: The (you decide) irrelevant stuff from notes: From California, 6/07 illegal transportation of alcohol, 11/21/09 punched in face by fan in Connecticut. Junior, but 23 years old because didn't start kindergarten until 6 & left back in 6th grade at parents request (shades of Marinovich with parents trying to get an edge as a kid). The good, bad & ugly (just look at his photo) "Positives: Fluid in his drops. Good field vision and QB instincts. Recognizes mismatches and understands where and when to go with the ball. Has shown he will hang in the pocket and pick himself off the ground after taking big hits behind a very marginal O-line. Good touch and overall accuracy. Has played under center in a pro-style offense, is very well-coached and makes decisive, pro-style reads. Carries the ball high on the shelf and picks apart defenses when given time. Can manipulate defenders and move safties with his eyes. Learned how to rotate his hips into his throws. Can drive the deep out and sling it into tight windows-can hit the deep outs, comebacks and posts and make all the throws. Angry competitor- plays with gusto. Has shown a lot of magic on big stages and thrived in high-pressure situations. Carries a swagger and has a very confident demeanor when the game is on the line-wants the ball in his hands in the clutch and will recommend plays. Good on-field energy and bounce in his step. Battles through injuries-took pain killing injections in his foot to play most of the season. Improved work ethic. The game is very important to him, and he showed an improved on-field command as a junior. Very experienced. Negatives: Too manufactured-has a high effort delivery. Tends to hop in the pocket and is not much of a scrambling threat-can be flustered by the rush and takes too many sacks. Has a tendency to overstride when he goes deep, lowering his release point, and has to put his entire body into the throw and chuck it like it's a javelin. Puts too much air underneath the deep ball and launches some rainmakers. Inconsistent deep accuracy- was 0-for-7 throwing to his deep right in five games charted the past two years. Has an awkward follow-through and too often falls backward after he throws. Had a strong supporting cast with receivers who attacked the ball. Has a sense of entitlement, having attended private schools, worked with private QB coaches and being sheltered by his family, who bought a house on campus so his brothers had a place to stay for every game. Arrogant-can come off as having all the answers and struggle to win a locker room. Still immature. Comes across as overly staged, scripted and disingenuous in interviews and does not have the type of presence desired in the face of a franchise. Is not a fan of the weight room. Summary: A tough, instinctive, competitive gamer who overhauled his mechanics from the time he was a freshman, physically matured and developed into a decisive marksman. Has been groomed by Charlie Weis and has an advanced understanding of the game that will allow him to step into a starting lineup readily. However, he is cut from the same cloth as Rex Grossman and J.P. Losman, possessing an elitist attitude and selfishness that could polarize a locker room and create needless drama that may detract from a team. The defining question of his career is whether he possesses the intangibles and makeup to become a leader and win the respect of his teammates." -
Jimmy Clausen PFW scouting report
Albany,n.y. replied to Albany,n.y.'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Clausen has to stop sitting on AC units Seriously, you're right, this is a very weak QB class. That's why trying to get the Bills to guess correctly which late rounder will make it-something they haven't done right since drafting Lamonica, is really asking a lot. That's why I'm in favor of trading for either McNabb or Kolb, because I don't think the Bills can get it right on a QB in this draft & I don't think any of the QBs on our roster can lead us to a winning record. -
Jimmy Clausen PFW scouting report
Albany,n.y. replied to Albany,n.y.'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
No Link available. Do you really think I'd type all this stuff if I could link it? I type 1 finger at a time. It's not from a website, it's from Pro Football Weekly's Draft Preview which is not on a website, unless you pay for the entire book & download the adobe file. The best I could do was quote the relevant stuff on Clausen. -
The (you decide) irrelevant stuff from notes: From California, 6/07 illegal transportation of alcohol, 11/21/09 punched in face by fan in Connecticut. Junior, but 23 years old because didn't start kindergarten until 6 & left back in 6th grade at parents request (shades of Marinovich with parents trying to get an edge as a kid). The good, bad & ugly (just look at his photo) "Positives: Fluid in his drops. Good field vision and QB instincts. Recognizes mismatches and understands where and when to go with the ball. Has shown he will hang in the pocket and pick himself off the ground after taking big hits behind a very marginal O-line. Good touch and overall accuracy. Has played under center in a pro-style offense, is very well-coached and makes decisive, pro-style reads. Carries the ball high on the shelf and picks apart defenses when given time. Can manipulate defenders and move safties with his eyes. Learned how to rotate his hips into his throws. Can drive the deep out and sling it into tight windows-can hit the deep outs, comebacks and posts and make all the throws. Angry competitor-plays with gusto. Has shown a lot of magic on big stages and thrived in high-pressure situations. Carries a swagger and has a very confident demeanor when the game is on the line-wants the ball in his hands in the clutch and will recommend plays. Good on-field energy and bounce in his step. Battles through injuries-took pain killing injections in his foot to play most of the season. Improved work ethic. The game is very important to him, and he showed an improved on-field command as a junior. Very experienced. Negatives: Too manufactured-has a high effort delivery. Tends to hop in the pocket and is not much of a scrambling threat-can be flustered by the rush and takes too many sacks. Has a tendency to overstride when he goes deep, lowering his release point, and has to put his entire body into the throw and chuck it like it's a javelin. Puts too much air underneath the deep ball and launches some rainmakers. Inconsistent deep accuracy- was 0-for-7 throwing to his deep right in five games charted the past two years. Has an awkward follow-through and too often falls backward after he throws. Had a strong supporting cast with receivers who attacked the ball. Has a sense of entitlement, having attended private schools, worked with private QB coaches and being sheltered by his family, who bought a house on campus so his brothers had a place to stay for every game. Arrogant-can come off as having all the answers and struggle to win a locker room. Still immature. Comes across as overly staged, scripted and disingenuous in interviews and does not have the type of presence desired in the face of a franchise. Is not a fan of the weight room. Summary: A tough, instinctive, competitive gamer who overhauled his mechanics from the time he was a freshman, physically matured and developed into a decisive marksman. Has been groomed by Charlie Weis and has an advanced understanding of the game that will allow him to step into a starting lineup readily. However, he is cut from the same cloth as Rex Grossman and J.P. Losman, possessing an elitist attitude and selfishness that could polarize a locker room and create needless drama that may detract from a team. The defining question of his career is whether he possesses the intangibles and makeup to become a leader and win the respect of his teammates."
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McNabb to the Bills for Picks?
Albany,n.y. replied to CountDorkula's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Outside of a 1st round pick to get a LT, what picks do we really need? It's not like rds 2-7 have any guaranteed pro-bowlers. Why not trade for a guy who might have 3-5 years left and give the team a ligit shot at the playoffs, instead of hoarding picks so that we can win 3-4 games next year? PS: Gailey saying he wants the QB settled before the draft indicates he wants someone other than the current 3 & does not want to go to camp with the open QB competition. I don't know if he's thinking McNabb or someone else, but he's not thinking his QB will be named Trent, Ryan or Brian. -
I love when people use revisionist history to bash someone & get the wrong guy. It was FLUTIE who threw the pass at the beginning of the game on opening day against Indy on 9/12/99. Johnson didn't play until week 3 of the season in a blowout of the Eagles when he came in to mop up & got injured (big surprise there)
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You're right, he can't do any worse than Hamdan, who he replaced at the time we signed him.
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You've spun this so many ways, you don't even know what you yourself are talking about. In one post you say that GB matched our offer, to put him on their own 53 man squad, so they could trade him later. I'll trust your statements that you know the difference between being on the active roster & practice squad-a match meant he was going on GB's 53 man roster. If you don't understand the difference, you ought to stop lecturing others on the difference. THEN, you later post that GB was interested in winning games, not concerned about trading him down the line. For the last time, which statement do you believe: A) GB tried to match so they could trade him. or B) Green Bay wasn't concerned about his trade value, they were in win now mode. You can only pick one, which is it. BTW, whichever one you pick will contradict an earlier post YOU made.
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I can't believe response #5, because here's what you previously said "So they stashed him on the PS hoping no one would grab him so they could develop him more in hopes of trading him this offseason. That is also why they tried to match the offer, so they could keep him and trade him later...not because they wanted him to beat out Flynn." Now, not only don't you answer me when I ask you to prove that they wanted to match the offer in hopes of trading Brohm, but you now include this "5. GB going into this year felt they were a real contender. They are not going to take up an active roster they need to compete every week to keep a 2nd year QB who is 3rd on the depth chart in hopes of trading him. #1 priority for GB in the 2009 season was not positioning for trade value in 2010, but winning games. With their holes and injuries, that meant carrying only 2 QB's, so they made the tough choice of risking losing Brohm for no compensation on PS in hopes they could match the offer if someone claimed him." Sorry, but you have just contradicted yourself. Do us all a favor, until you get your facts straight in your own mind, refrain from calling anyone else dense. It's tough to follow your thoughts when side by side you make no sense.
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What does that have to do with my request to show evidence that GB was trying to match so that they could trade him in the future? I'll repeat-where's the evidence they wanted to match so they could trade a guy who sailed through waivers.
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...and how does that change my response that I refuted the statement that he was similar to Fitzpatrick?
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Bills unusual pitch to season ticket holders....
Albany,n.y. replied to Buftex's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Not only did I sit through the entire game, but I had to drive 295 miles home afterwards. I told everyone the next day that I was at the worst game I'd ever seen, and I've been to over 200 games. -
great Joe D rant. Its all about the quarterback
Albany,n.y. replied to Webster Guy's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Joe D says some pretty outrageous stuff. The craziest was in his HOF speech where he lauded one of his former coaches, pointed him out in the crowd & said he was a good coach but... That coach who he loved so much & invited to his HOF day- Hank Bullough. Mr. Modell, Mr. Wilson were kind enough to trade me back to where I came from – Buffalo – for one year. Hank Bullough coached me. I always said that if Hank got Jim Kelly as a quarterback, he would still be coaching maybe. He was a good coach, just had some trouble at quarterback. Well Hank did have Kelly, but didn't know how to use him & got fired. http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/release....?release_id=991 -
That's simply not true from most ways to measure QB production. In the 9 games Fitzpatrick played the majority of, the Bills scored (from all sources, O, D, ST) 161 points, an average of almost 18 points a game. High 31, low 10. In the 1 Brohm game, the Bills scored 3 points. The remainder of stats include all of Fitzpatrick's games: Fitzpatrick ave yds per pass attempt 6.3; Brohm 5.0 TD/INT Fitzpatrick 9/10; Brohm 0/2 The stat I hate but a lot of you love: QB Rating Fitzpatrick 69.7; Brohm 43.2 The only measurable Brohm was close with Fitzpatrick (and exceeded him by 2.67%) was completion % Brohm 58.62%; Fitzpatrick 55.95% Of all the measurables, the most important one is how many points the team scores. Fitzpatrick's Bills averaged nearly 6 times the points scored in Brohm's game. Until Brohm can prove he can get his team in the endzone at least once, I'll remain skeptical of his chances.
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The real situation is GB waived a former 2nd round pick, and not one other team claimed him. If they cared about losing him, they wouldn't have waived him. You can spin it any way you like, but the bottom line is last September GB could have cared less if they lost Brohm. Any team that waives a guy one year removed from the 2nd round expects him to be claimed & doesn't care. You have NO evidence that GB tried to match the Bills offer hoping to trade Brohm (a guy nobody in September wanted for free) in the offseason. It's much more logical to think they wanted their 3rd string insurance to know their system than it is to dream up some trade scenario about a player nobody else wanted off of waivers.
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One of them was Brooks Bollinger-the guy had an MVP season! There's hope for Brohm*** ***- in the UFL
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You act like nobody had a file on the guy from his college days. Year after year, when the Bills have picked up players cut by other teams they have said things like "We liked him coming out of college." Pro Personnel depts just don't rely on the film from pre-season, they also look at what their scouts said of guys coming out of college. They combine that with current film, scouting reports etc. When all they see is a compounding of their "weakness" category on the pro film, they pass. If they see some of the strengths, they bite & sign the guy. Rosters are not set at the QB position. Years ago we added Travis Brown right before the season because we thought he had more potential than what we had. Teams do it all the time. You want Brohm & you'll make any excuse to justify your desire. The real reason is because all our QBs suck & the only one who has not been a total disappointment is Brohm. The reason for that is he hasn't played enough YET, to disappoint you. When he does, you'll realize why GB & the rest of the league let the Bills have him. By the way, Brady was drafted in the 6th, but NE never put him on waivers, they kept 4 QBs his rookie year because they refused to gamble by waiving him to stash on their practice squad. If they were sure every team wouldn't have claimed him, I'm sure they would have freed up that roster spot instead of doing the unconventional & carrying 4 QBs. GB didn't care if they lost Brohm-they waived him rather than keep a spot for him on the 53 man roster.
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Bills unusual pitch to season ticket holders....
Albany,n.y. replied to Buftex's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Did I renew too soon? I haven't received one. -
While it's remote, it does happen. However, when it has happened in the past, it's been a late round or undrafted guy, not a player who had a college career like Brohm or was drafted in the 2nd round only 1 year before. When you cut a player drafted as high as the 2nd round teams usually put in claims for the guy, unless they view him as beyond redemption. Lower profile players fall through the cracks, not ones with as high a profile as Brohm had. The worst argument that the Brohm supporters use appeared in this thread: The one that claims that rosters are set in September & teams don't want to bring in a new guy who doesn't know their system-absolute rubbish! If a team sees a guy on waivers who they think has starting potential, they snap him up ASAP. It's even more true in September when more of those types are cut than any other time of the year. Just look at all the waiver claims that happen the week between cutdown & opening day. The Jets traded a 7th for Kevin O'Connell & kept him as their 3rd/4th stringer all season. They did it right before opening day. Now the most die hard Brohm appologists will tell you that they just did it to use against NE. If that was true, he would have been waived right after the Jets played NE the 2nd time. Kevin O'Connell is viewed in higher regard than Brian Brohm, having been claimed once off waivers & then traded right before the season started. But the only people in Buffalo who would want Kevin O'Connell starting are fans of the weatherman with the same name.
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Is a franchise QB a guarantee for sucess?
Albany,n.y. replied to Original Byrd Man's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The only way Trent Edwards or Ryan Fitzpatrick could win a Super Bowl would be the same way Rob Johnson won a Super Bowl-watching it from the bench. -
Why settle for Akili Smith? Tim Couch was drafted #1 the same year Smith was picked, so he has more upside.
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Is a franchise QB a guarantee for sucess?
Albany,n.y. replied to Original Byrd Man's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The Jets did everything possible to get themselves the guy they believed was the franchise QB. 1st in 2008 with the Favre trade, then in 2009 with the trade up for Sanchez. They had a veteran QB (who was a former 1st round pick), reached in the 2nd round & failed with their 2nd round "QB of the future" in 2006, traded for a 38-9 year old QB who lasted 1 season in 2008, then 3 years after reaching for the 2nd round QB, traded pick #17, a 2nd round pick & 3 players to move up 12 spots to pick 5. It is virtually impossible for the Bills to follow the Jets philosophy. The Bills would need an established veteran, fail on a 2nd round QB of the future, trade for a one year fix at QB, spend years acquiring O & D line guys then make a blockbuster trade to draft a guy they feel will be a franchise QB in 2013. -
Cocaine can cause heart failure. It's like playing Russian Roulette when you snort it. It killed Len Bias.
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Tom Brady-2nd year in league, 1st year playing-Super Bowl Champion When did Brady = NOBODY?