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Pat White could be an all time great-unfortunately the top arena league folded last year.

In 1994, before his senior year, guess who Mel Kiper had as the top rated QB in his class & was basically saying with a good Sr. year he'd be a top pick-ROB JOHNSON. When a guy who is that highly rated before his senior year drops completely out of the first round, be very careful not to overrate him, because there's a really good chance he's been exposed to scouts as a flawed guy whose flaws caused the drop. There's no way that on paper, he's better than any QB on the Bills roster. Pro career to pro career, there's nothing on the field, paper or even your vivid imagination of what Brian Brohm is to suggest he's anything other that what he is-a failed player who is being given another shot because he once showed some promise in college. Teams have tried to resurrect the careers of guys who WERE top 5 picks & those guys, like Tim Couch, Akili Smith, and Ryan Leaf never worked out. Jamarcus Russell looks like he's going to be the next top 5 pick to bomb his way out of the league, lets pick him up next, give him some protection & not blow a pick on a QB-how does that sound?

Unless the guy is a total bust, no team cuts a QB who was drafted in the 2nd round just 1 year after they drafted him. If White gets cut, I wouldn't want the Bills to waste their time trying to resurrect his career. Let him play baseball.

Fitzpatrick stays for a couple of reasons: He's the only one of the 3 who has a contract beyond this season. Also, he's the perfect 2nd stringer-he's proven he can win games when called upon. The Bills were 5-4 in games Fitzpatrick played the majority of the QB snaps, they averaged 17.9 pts from all types of scores. He may not look pretty, but he got the job done better than the other QBs. While you may think Edwards may be the best of the bunch, the W-L records & average points scored from last season, Edwards 1-5, 13.5 pts/game; Brohm 0-1 3 pts, suggests that Fitzpatrick is the best QB on the roster because he did more with less.

You get smarter with every post I swear... I sure hope we don't have to listen to stuff like "Brohm got screwed" after the Bills pick up a QB later this month and Brohm doesn't get the starter's job, or possibly doesn't make the team this season. I can hear the whining now-" We never gave him a chance, he only started 1 game, look at his stats in college" or "He's going to come back & haunt us" yeah, right. Here's what the QB acquired will mean: 1st or 2nd round-bye bye Trent Edwards. Rookie starts, Fitzpatrick 2nd string, Brohm 3rd string 3rd or 4th round-bye bye either Edwards or Brohm-if rookie plays well in camp, bye bye Trent, if rookie plays poorly in camp-bye bye Brohm-only room for 1 project 3rd stringer. 5th to 7th-Bye bye Brian Brohm. Veteran-bye bye Edwards or Fitzpatrick. Brohm gets to stay as 3rd stringer. Undrafted free agent-practice squad at best, all 3 current guys stay-Brohm's only chance of being the starter. Most of the logical scenarios result in Brohm being 3rd string or off the team. The chances of Brohm starting are slim & none. The only shot is if Nix strikes out at acquiring all the QBs he has targeted as possible acquisitions & ends up bringing in some undrafted guy as training camp fodder.

Since Seattle has Hasselbeck & just traded for & gave big bucks to Whitehurst as Hasselbeck's replacement, why would anyone think that Carroll would even think of drafting a QB in the 1st round?

If Betty White can do some of the things she does like the ads & hosting SNL, why not Ralph with Mary Blige?

I hope they send you one & you carry out that threat. As I said, when some of you get this you're going to go wild, you're proving my point. This isn't the 1st time I've gotten this form. The 1st time I thoroughly checked out its validity before I sent it in.

Obviously, not. I can't believe some of you never heard of this part.

It's not, it's called the American Community Survey. Here's what it says about it on the Census website: Surveys  American Community Survey – Part of the decennial census, this ongoing survey is sent to a sample of the population each month to update what the population looks like and how it lives. The survey also helps communities determine where to locate services and allocate resources. Here's the link, find it under surveys: http://2010.census.gov/news/doc/uscb_glance.doc Here's more about it in an adobe file: http://2010.census.gov/partners/pdf/C2POMemoNo9.pdf

I can't wait to see the posts when some of you get the form I got today. It's the 2nd form they send to a selected few of us (I don't know what percent get this one, but they send you a letter a few days before telling you it's coming). They ask a lot more than the standard one. I had to fish out gas, electric, water, insurance, & property tax bills. Then the income questions for the last year (not 1/1-12/31, I figured 4/1-3/31 because I filled it out today): bank accounts for interest and paychecks for income. Then I had to estimate how much my house is worth, good thing I work as a real estate appraiser-how's the average Joe supposed to accurately know how much his house is worth? More: What time do you leave for work, how long does it take to get there; what's the address you work at, County & City office is located in. There was more, this is just the main stuff. It took me 45 minutes to dig up all the info to answer the questions, I had to go on line & look at cancelled checks, utility bills, dig up my water/sewer bill etc. Now I didn't mind doing this, I also got this form last time when I was still in an apartment, but I can see some of you are going to go wild when you get this long form.

He also had Trent Edwards as a career backup, said he makes too many mistakes on the field. He was wrong there

Tom Cousineau trotted his girlfriend out to announce he was straight when he was playing for the Cleveland Browns.

I looked at the starting QBs from last season to see where it's most likely to get your starter, here are my findings, some teams I have split the starter into 2 halves: Team/QB/Round Drafted Baltimore: Flacco 1 Bills: Edwards 3, Fitzpatrick 7 Cincinnati: Palmer 1 Cleveland: Quinn 1, Anderson 6 Denver: Orton 4 Houston: Shaub 3 Indianapolis: Manning 1 Jacksonville: Garrard 4 Kansas City: Cassel 7 Miami: Henne 2 New England: Brady 6 NY Jets: Sanchez 1 Oakland: Russell 1, Gradkowski 6 Pittsburgh: Roethlisberger 1 San Diego: Rivers 1 Tennessee: Young 1 (so was Collins, so it doesn't matter) Arizona : Warner Undrafted Atlanta: Ryan 1 Carolina: Delhomme, Moore-Both Undrafted Chicago: Cutler 1 Dallas: Romo Undrafted Detroit: Stafford 1 Green Bay: Rodgers 1 Minnesota: Favre 2 New Orleans: Brees 2 NY Giants: Manning 1 Philadelphia: McNabb 1 St. Louis: Bulger 6, Boller 1 San Francisco: Smith 1 Seattle: Hasselbeck 6 Tampa Bay: Freeman 1 (so was Leftwich) Washington: Campbell 1 Breaking it down by round, giving 50% to each QB when 2 are listed, here are the percents of the total NFL starters in 2009 by round: 1st: 54.69% 2nd: 9.38% 3rd: 4.69% 4th: 6.25% 5th: 0 6th: 10.94% 7th: 4.69% Undrafted: 9.38% Clearly your best chance of finding a starting QB is in the 1st round. Although there are 6 other rounds and countless undrafted free agents brought in every year, more than half the starters were 1st rounders. Of the 17.5 starting former 1st rounders, only Cutler & Boller weren't with the same team they started their careers with, and Cutler was because of a forced trade. What this says is if you want to find a starter, the best way is to draft him in the 1st round. Surprisingly, the 2nd highest percentage was in the 6th round, but outside of Brady the other guys are journeymen like Anderson & Gradkowski who fell into jobs after a 1st rounder floundered, or guys at the end of their careers like Hasselbeck & Bulger. The telling stat for those 6th rounders is that of the 5 players, only Brady is with the team that drafted him, the rest have all been cut at some point, including Hasselbeck who was cut & PS'd as a rookie. Next group is the tie between 2nd round & undrafted. The 2nd produced 2 stars and the yet to be determined Henne. Both stars found their best years away from the drafting team. The undrafteds bounced around too, only Romo found success with the team that signed him as a rookie. Warner got cut by GB & was out of the league for years before his unique career took off, and the Carolina QBs, Moore was cut by Dallas & Delhomme was an afterthought in NO who left via free agency. The 4th round guys are mediocre and among 3rd & 7th rounders, only Shaub has shown enough to confidently rely on him. Outside of drafting a QB in the 1st round, your chances of finding a starter afterwards are pretty slim. Unfortunately, only about one half the 1st rounders pan out, leaving a high bust rate. However, while other round QBs seem to be able to find success after failing with the original team, a 1st round bust doesn't seem to ever make it elsewhere. The 2nd round may be the same, since Favre was highly thought of enough to trade a 1st rounder for 1 year into his career, and Brees' switch of teams was fairly unique due to an injury right before he left. If he hadn't been injured, he most likely would have been tagged & traded. Brady was a once in a generation find. So where does this leave the Bills? Basically, screwed. They are not in a position to get a 1st rounder worth rolling the dice on. Bradford will either be a medical question mark or long gone by pick 9, Clausen has enough red flags that if he lasts to nine, the danger of him falling into that half bust group is too much to take a shot at him. It's going to be next to impossible for the Bills to solve the long term QB situation in this draft, the odds of finding that diamond in the rough in a later round are slim. We may just have to suffer through another year of mediocre quarterbacking & wait until next year to solve the QB situation if we can't arrange a trade with Philadelphia for either McNabb or Kolb.

You link didn't work, so I'm not sure what you were trying to prove, but here's what I see looking game by game at JP's 2006 season. He didn't have a good season, he had a very erratic season sprinkled in with some good games. His 2nd half stats get padded by two games that the Bills blew out opponents in games against the Jets & Dolphins. In those games JP had QB ratings in the 140s, the best of his whole career. But, in the Jets game he only threw 15 times for 157 yds and in the Dolphins game he threw 19 times for 200 yds, hardly lighting it up. Worse, with the season on the line in the final 2 weeks he had a 57.6 completion %, 1 TD vs 2 INTS vs Tenessee in a loss that cost the Bills the playoffs and was virtually invisible the following week in Baltimore when outside of a long TD to Lee Evans, he was worthless. I was at both those games & it wasn't pretty & any improvement was not evident. I can play with stats too, in 2006 JP had 2 games passing for under 100 yards and 7 other games under 200 yards passing. Add in 2 more games of 200 yds & 207 yards and you have 11 of 16 games where he averaged 150.55 yards. In 3 games the Bills scored 7 or fewer points with JP at the helm, including the final game of the season, after you claim he improved. In 11 games, the Bills scored 21 or fewer points. Is that the kind of production you want from your starting QB?

Budwey never called it soda or pop. He referred to them as beverages & said he was against the beverage tax.

Trent Edwards is the only QB on the roster capable of being a decent starter in the NFL. Unfortunately, he hasn't been able to stay healthy. Right now the guy is injury prone & I'd hate to rely on him. He can be straightened out & play well, but until he puts 2-3 injury free seasons together, I'd be reluctant to count on the guy, no matter how good he looks in a stretch of game, like the way he started the 2008 season. Trent is at a crossroads & can go in one of 2 directions. I'm familiar with the early careers of 2 NFL QBs. Which way Trent ends up, only time will tell. QB 1 is Rob Johnson-he was always injury prone in the NFL & eventually they took their toll & he never amounted to anything as a QB. The other QB is Phil Simms. Simms was injury prone early in his career, his 3rd, 4th & 5th seasons were washed out due to a string of injuries that started in the 2nd half of the 1981 season. In fact his 4th year, 1982, he missed the entire season after a preseason injury. However beginning in year 6 he started a string where he had 3 straight years without missing any games and only missed 1,1 & 2 the next 3 seasons. If Trent goes the Rob Johnson way, he'll be out of the league in 2-3 years. If he goes the Simms way, he'll be starting for us for the next 5-10 years. Ask any Giants fan what they though of Phil Simms after 5 seasons & they'd tell you they never thought he'd be anything & was a wasted pick.

I had a friend give me a free Edwards jersey that I was only able to wear once before he got benched, so if Edwards stays & starts I can wear it again too.

If you ever need an example of a Buffalo accent, Frank Budwey is your man. They've been showing his anti sugar beverage tax ads on tv. Here's a link: http://www.nysenate.gov/video/2010/mar/09/...gainst-soda-tax

When have you or anyone else heard directly from McNabb, in a taped interview or elsewhere that he doesn't want to play here. Because some idiot like the gazoo says so doesn't make it so. Unless you can link a tape, stop with the "publicly stated" stuff.

JP doesn't have all the talent in the world. He has a strong arm, a little mobility and nothing else. That's why he's a guy who can start in the UFL but is now an NFL afterthought.

How is any team that drafts Tebow going to fill seats when the only seat to be filled is the one on the bench Tebow will be occupying? No QB not ready to start is going to sell tickets.

How's this: The (you decide) irrelevant stuff from notes: From California, 6/07 illegal transportation of alcohol, 11/21/09 punched in face by fan in Connecticut. Junior, but 23 years old because didn't start kindergarten until 6 & left back in 6th grade at parents request (shades of Marinovich with parents trying to get an edge as a kid). The good, bad & ugly (just look at his photo) "Positives: Fluid in his drops. Good field vision and QB instincts. Recognizes mismatches and understands where and when to go with the ball. Has shown he will hang in the pocket and pick himself off the ground after taking big hits behind a very marginal O-line. Good touch and overall accuracy. Has played under center in a pro-style offense, is very well-coached and makes decisive, pro-style reads. Carries the ball high on the shelf and picks apart defenses when given time. Can manipulate defenders and move safties with his eyes. Learned how to rotate his hips into his throws. Can drive the deep out and sling it into tight windows-can hit the deep outs, comebacks and posts and make all the throws. Angry competitor- plays with gusto. Has shown a lot of magic on big stages and thrived in high-pressure situations. Carries a swagger and has a very confident demeanor when the game is on the line-wants the ball in his hands in the clutch and will recommend plays. Good on-field energy and bounce in his step. Battles through injuries-took pain killing injections in his foot to play most of the season. Improved work ethic. The game is very important to him, and he showed an improved on-field command as a junior. Very experienced. Negatives: Too manufactured-has a high effort delivery. Tends to hop in the pocket and is not much of a scrambling threat-can be flustered by the rush and takes too many sacks. Has a tendency to overstride when he goes deep, lowering his release point, and has to put his entire body into the throw and chuck it like it's a javelin. Puts too much air underneath the deep ball and launches some rainmakers. Inconsistent deep accuracy- was 0-for-7 throwing to his deep right in five games charted the past two years. Has an awkward follow-through and too often falls backward after he throws. Had a strong supporting cast with receivers who attacked the ball. Has a sense of entitlement, having attended private schools, worked with private QB coaches and being sheltered by his family, who bought a house on campus so his brothers had a place to stay for every game. Arrogant-can come off as having all the answers and struggle to win a locker room. Still immature. Comes across as overly staged, scripted and disingenuous in interviews and does not have the type of presence desired in the face of a franchise. Is not a fan of the weight room. Summary: A tough, instinctive, competitive gamer who overhauled his mechanics from the time he was a freshman, physically matured and developed into a decisive marksman. Has been groomed by Charlie Weis and has an advanced understanding of the game that will allow him to step into a starting lineup readily. However, he is cut from the same cloth as Rex Grossman and J.P. Losman, possessing an elitist attitude and selfishness that could polarize a locker room and create needless drama that may detract from a team. The defining question of his career is whether he possesses the intangibles and makeup to become a leader and win the respect of his teammates."

Clausen has to stop sitting on AC units Seriously, you're right, this is a very weak QB class. That's why trying to get the Bills to guess correctly which late rounder will make it-something they haven't done right since drafting Lamonica, is really asking a lot. That's why I'm in favor of trading for either McNabb or Kolb, because I don't think the Bills can get it right on a QB in this draft & I don't think any of the QBs on our roster can lead us to a winning record.

No Link available. Do you really think I'd type all this stuff if I could link it? I type 1 finger at a time. It's not from a website, it's from Pro Football Weekly's Draft Preview which is not on a website, unless you pay for the entire book & download the adobe file. The best I could do was quote the relevant stuff on Clausen.