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I agree, but there is that one fella. Some say his limited production is a product of the Volunteer offense. I don't know, but I hope Beane manages to grab Dont'e Thornton. He's got the traits.

Ah, if you keep both seconds and Collins is there, could happen. If they trade up, I don't think they're using both seconds to do it.

I don't really trust him to figure it out, unfortunately.

Well, if he doesn't have the mental cabbage to process at NFL speeds, it's a problem that won't get fixed. I was very happy when we drafted him, and I'm hoping it's more injuries than that, but I can't say I'm confident about it.

I know folks think we just have to go CB, and others think you shouldn't spend a late first on 1T. I like him a lot.

These things are like slot machines. Play enough of them, and eventually it will spit out something unlikely, but nice if it happens. 36. Derrick HarmonDT Oregon 56. Trey AmosCB Ole Miss 62. Isaiah BondWR Texas 88. Alfred CollinsDT Texas 109. Billy BowmanS Oklahoma 132. Sai'vion JonesEDGE LSU 169. Jack KiserLB Notre Dame 170. Marcus TateOG Clemson 173. Mitchell EvansTE Notre Dame 177. Nohl WilliamsCB California

Inexcusable not to, really.

I've said this before here, but the lack of explosive plays means a better chance of regression towards the mean on the turnover front. The margin for error is much less, and I think it also bites you in those gotta have it moments in playoff games. Not wanting more elite talent at WR is just not smart, and it's consistently been missing from Beane's approach to team building.

That characterization isn't really correct, but it certainly tilts the conversation towards a particular stance. 2024 was not good enough, and if it were, there wouldn't have been a mid-season trade of a third round pick for the oft-injured and relatively disappointing Cooper. If anything, you could say that bringing in Palmer at least establishes a higher floor for boundary receiver, so I expect on paper 2025 is slightly ahead of last year. I would have liked Metcalf not because he's a "name," but because he is an excellent boundary receiver with speed that can beat press coverage. For the same reason, I'd like to draft a WR relatively early with those traits, but given the needs on D, it likely won't happen till day 3.

Stop yelling at my clouds!

I think he meets the criteria of difficult name to pronounce.

You could be an insider with thousands of followers on X.

30. Kenneth GrantDT Michigan 56. Landon JacksonEDGE Arkansas 62. Jayden HigginsWR Iowa State 109. Jordan HancockCB Ohio State 132. Malachi MooreS Alabama 169. Jack KiserLB Notre Dame 170. Raheim SandersRB South Carolina 173. Marcus TateOG Clemson 177. Ty RobinsonDT Nebraska 206. Luke LacheyTE Iowa

Advocating for a nuanced understanding that allows for complexity is not allowed. This is a football forum. Now go jump through a table.

Doesn't matter. All the Chargers are signing with us.

I am puzzled by the presumptuous hypotheticals that keep showing up in these threads. You couldn't have had Sweat unless the player was willing to sign a deal. It wasn't his preference, so that wasn't an alternative option that we just decided not to take.

There's zero indication that Hendrickson would be available to the Bills. You sound like we are actively refusing a deal that isn't there.

To be honest, I'd love to grab Grant and then take another big fella for the middle on day 3.

Palmer is a boundary receiver for the most part. What WR1 do you have in mind, because I don't see one out there that is available?

We absolutely needed a boundary receiver with his skill set. It opens up the field for everyone, and adds some explosive play ability. I agree that we still need elite difference makers. I surely wanted one at WR, and personally I still think Metcalf could have been that guy. But I feel a lot better having this role filled by at minimum an adequate player.

Shaw, I addressed this in another thread in the context of DK Metcalf. I'm tired, so I'm going to quote a bit of what I wrote there. None of this precludes the necessity of addressing obvious needs on DL, CB, and S. Those who think the approach to offense and scoring success from last year is easily replicable pair that with obvious defensive deficiencies to dismiss the importance of a boundary receiver with Metcalf's specific strengths. Why spend so much on a player like that when there are so many needs on D? And there are a lot of needs. I think the turnover margin which was exceptional last year will likely regress towards the mean, a likelihood increased by an offense that depends on sustained drives and lacks explosive play capability. It doesn't matter that Metcalf is not a conventional WR1. He is elite at his particular skill set, and it was a perfect match to what folks ought to want for Josh Allen and the Bills. It's not just about putting up points, but having elite difference makers that can be called upon in crucial moments in the biggest games. So, that's my view. I know your view on the position is different. That's okay, but I shall continue to believe we need more elite talent in the WR room.

Alright, I've tried to be respectful. Have a good evening.

Well, maybe I'm not following you, but also we probably just don't agree. If last year, the Diggs situation precluded significant upgrades in the WR room (though we could have drafted more than a big, slow slot), and this year, we have more money, some of that money ought to be invested in better WR talent, though in fact, there isn't much available in FA now, and it's not a very good draft year. In general, I think Beane does not have urgency to add elite WR talent. I think that's a mistake, and just returning the equivalent of the talent he was forced to end up with last year in this year is a fail.

I'm not talking about last year. I'm talking about what he's likely to do this year.

Those who think the approach to offense and scoring success from last year is easily replicable pair that with obvious defensive deficiencies to dismiss the importance of a boundary receiver with Metcalf's specific strengths. Why spend so much on a player like that when there are so many needs on D? And there are a lot of needs. I think the turnover margin which was exceptional last year will likely regress towards the mean, a likelihood increased by an offense that depends on sustained drives and lacks explosive play capability. It doesn't matter that Metcalf is not a conventional WR1. He is elite at his particular skill set, and it was a perfect match to what folks ought to want for Josh Allen and the Bills. It's not just about putting up points, but having elite difference makers that can be called upon in crucial moments in the biggest games. Low Positive may want to disparage this perspective, but it's certainly not indefensible, nor does it reduce to petulant emotional outbursts. If there is an echo of dismay over the failure to draft Metcalf in the first place, it is a resonance due to Beane's continuing incapacity to properly address the WR room, a proclivity he has carried with him from his Carolina days.