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Slowly we are getting to a point of understanding, at least as to what we each mean. I would prefer to go WR early twice, but if they wait until #60, there is very little chance a WR I would value at that pick will be on the board. So my position is trade up from #60 to get the second WR. If you're not willing or unable to do that, and end up staying at #60, I suspect the best pick will be some other position. I do not want to just take any WR or the best left on the board if that doesn't happen to be one of a small number that I favor, all of which I expect to be selected well before then. In that case, any one of the defensive positions you outline are possible, and I would not discount OL early either for that matter, because the value could be there as well. It may turn out different, but my sense is they either have to move up or move back from that spot.

Alright, I thought your premise in the previous post was 2 WRs. I disagree. I think they need to be more proactive, and I would prioritize WR. #60 is definitely not a good spot for WR, so if you stay there, it's likely another position.

Nope, that won't work if you want 2 early WR picks, imo. Even if you stick at #28 or trade back, #60 is not a good spot. There will be a run on WRs starting at the top of the second and petering out somewhere in the mid-forties. Have to move up, and you can get pretty high up from #60 with one of those 2025 seconds. You need a RB2 somewhere in the draft, and it would be foolish not to pick up OL depth.

That's good, because that certainly would be part of the cost.

Well reasoned, though I really do not like Coleman. I don't see him as likely to be an effective boundary receiver, and I think his best chance to flourish is as a big slot, so he would require Kincaid being off the field to be successful. Maybe that's wrong, but that's how I see it. I'd rather they traded up reasonably high for Thomas. Yet one more week of trying to figure all the angles. Watch him take Cooper Dejean.

It wouldn't be a total shock if Beane trades up big for Odunze if he falls to #9. There's no need to broadcast that option if he is in fact contemplating its possibility. Too many unknowns have to fall into place before it could be enacted. More likely, he trades up for Thomas, or waits at #28. McConkey is, and should be in play. All that being put out just now on Mitchell, the timing of it is suspicious. Maybe it's all true and that data just exacerbates the questions about him, but it's awfully convenient if you are a team that wants him to fall within range. I still think they need two early (top 40 or so picks) invested at WR, regardless of other needs. Shakir and Samuel are only nice pieces if they are not counted on to be WR2, imo. I highly doubt Beane is going to let Davis go and trades Diggs without a plan that is more than a wing and a prayer. It would also be irresponsible to just give up on a season of Josh Allen's prime.

You're making a case for Kneeland in the second. They're not taking him at #28. Taking everything that's been said, I think the possibility of McConkey has gone up, which is fine by me.

Pretty sure that is common knowledge. The passions involved in arguing for or against particular prospects is motivated by that awareness. No one really knows how a specific individual will turn out, and so much of it depends on incalculable factors. The best you can do is try to find the best fit of talent, character, and scheme, and hope you can get the fella that matches. If you have a larger point, I'm not sure what it is. Do you think folks should just shut up or stifle their enthusiasm because it might not work out?

I would love to find a way to get both Thomas and McConkey. My second choice is McConkey and Legette. I think if they go for just one, Beane will trade up for Thomas.

Stick with Ladd. He'll play golf with you, too.

So long you'll decide to cut the lawn.

It's a lot of effort. I like Polk, but that's awful high. Ravens march to their own drummer. It might be plausible for the Bills. I don't like it, because I would not pass on Mitchell, and I would take McConkey first, and Legette second, before I would take Franklin.

You're definitely trading up from #60 if you want Legette. It will cost you a 2025 2nd, probably. Maybe Polk is there if you wait. #60 is not a great spot in the draft.

I think McConkey is significantly better than Wilson, and better than Pearsall. My feeling is you could make an argument for Mitchell and certainly for Thomas, but you'd have to trade up for him. If the stipulation is you start by staying at #28, I like McConkey, then try to get the big fella WR in the second. Maybe it costs you more than the second, if you need to get above #40 for Legette. Someone like Walker would be my fallback if I miss out on Legette.

I think you'd have to count on spending a 2025 second. I think that could get you around pick #40.

I think if they stick at #28, Beane ought to take McConkey. Then trade up in the second to secure Legette, presuming he doesn't sneak into the first round. McConkey is a top 5 or 6 WR, imo, and I think he can be a volume WR his first year.

Is that comparison based on play or difficult to pronounce last names?

I can't really see Beane paying that price and having nothing beyond a collection of day 3 picks for the rest of the draft. It's certainly a push all your chips in move.

Yeah, I was pushing for Allen a few months ago, but it just seems unlikely he will be available when we are thinking of taking a RB.

Listened to the whole thing. It was a good presser. They had to make a change. I hope it's just the beginning and that KA is willing to trade some assets for NHL ready players. Also, I don't think all the "core" players should be off the table if an opportunity presents itself.

That's my preference, but it implicitly should stipulate two WRs early in the draft. If Beane is only getting one and a day 3 lottery ticket, he needs to add a veteran.

Damn, you scooped everyone there.

You're right about so much, but then you want to take Coleman

Yeah, I'd be okay taking him with a third if we manage to manufacture one.

Barton is a first rounder. I doubt Theo Johnson lasts that long. The model is off. It's a home run draft, though.