Bill from NYC
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No, Losman proved quite a bit. In pre-season and in practice, Losman proved to the Bills brass that he is not only likely as good as (the 9-7 winning 6 of the last 7 games) Drew Bledsoe, but probably better. And whether you like Bledsoe or not, he is good enough to start in the NFL, ask Mike Mularkey and Bill Parcells. So Losman has already proven that he is good enough to start in the NFL, otherwise Drew would still be our quarterback at least one more year. And thank God, he did.
What did he prove when he brushed up against a db and was nearly crippled?
Ryan Leaf "proved" that he was a star in this league too, right?
Your analogy is "homer" tainted and flawed.
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2002 huh?
We had GW, and worse yet Gilbride.
We had Travis coughing up the football to opponents on a regular basis, and playing his stupid game.
Who was our OL coach?
We had MW in his stunning rookie debut. He was great, right? In fact, so was the entire OL.
The defense was so-so.
The special teams sucked, right?
The 31 teams (minus the Bengals if I recall) figured out what to do to beat a suckass Bills team.....not just Drew Bledsoe. To place all of the blame on Drew is rather simplistic, wouldn't you say?
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Great point. He also did pretty well with Curtis Martin and Willis as well.
Look, I am the first to admit that Drew needs a stronger supporting cast than a fan or especially a coach would like. That said, he was far from the biggest problem on the Bills offense in 04, but blaming the qb is an easy way out.
PS: Going with JP may very well prove to be a great decision. This is what I am hoping. What I will NOT do is merely assume that JP is the next Montana or even an adequate NFL QB until he proves something on the football field.
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Since you asked, I will offer my opinion.
Yes, and no.
There are many here who have JP pegged as greater than great. This imo is silly.
Some view the trade as good because the 05 draft which is said to be weak. This certainly makes some sense.
From where I sit, JP has not proven a thing. I will be his biggest fan if he is a good qb, but this imo is far from a given. His 04 season was a horror show. This is a kid with much to prove, and a lot of the Bills future depends upon him being able to excel at his position.
All we can do is hope. What we cannot do is judge for sure whether or not this was a good trade.
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>>>And let's not forget that last year Dillon was seen as an aging (declining ypc), malcontent player coming off of a season where he didn't play much.<<<
Take away the word aging and add the words injured and stupid. Now, who are we describing?
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It has dawned on me that there is the real world of employment, and there is the NFL.
Outside of sports, I can not imagine a profession where you make a deal to do business with someone -- a legally binding deal -- with both sides knowing that at any time they can change their mind, particularly the employee as opposed to the employer.
I love the NFL blindly. I love everything that has to do with it. Except this. Not even the blind love of a sport makes me even remotely have any respect for this crap.
Players sometimes sign with an agent, and drop him within weeks. The agent doesn't sue him, because this would scare other players from signing with him.
Sometimes, the players borrow money from agents, which is said to be a major lure.
You are right, it is a circus, and the agents are the easy target.
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>>>>Might the Bills be working a deal where they send Henry to Tampa for Kenyetta Walker and Tampa's 2nd round choice. If so, I like this deal much better then what is being proposed with Arizona.<<<<
NE got Corey Dillon, who is twice the back Travis Henry is, for the last pick of the 2nd round.
Do you think, under any conditions, that TB would give us more than this for Travis Henry?
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I am sorry, but all we know for certain is that Dallas did quite well on the deal.
Losman proved ZERO in 04. The only thing he has proven in 05 is that he knows how to make a stupid remark to some kid.
It will take a while to determine how TD made out on this trade.
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Agents ruin the sport, without question. There are some good ones who are reasonable and work well with GM's. Then there is Rosenhaus, the Poston Bros. and many more who have huge ego's and zero integrity. Gimmie,gimmie gimmie. The long term health of the sport means nothing. "Salary cap be damned, my guy deserves a massive chunk of change and the rest of your roster is not my concern . "
That's why the Bills would be wise to draft another RB this year. If Willis has a 1500 yard season in 2005, watch Rosenhaus tell TD he wishes to redo his contract.
Most players are dumber than dirt, so they just follow the sychophant agents advice.
This is a great topic. Years ago, I read a book by former agent Mike Trope called "Necessary Roughness." He was around in the days of Howard Slusher, and when Lee Steinberg was cutting his teeth. He represented Lawrence Taylor, Chuck Muncie and countless other stars.
Trope points out that while agents get the blame, ultimately it is the player who is responsible for ridiculous demands. For example, T.O. signed one of, if not the largest contracts of all time for a wide receiver. He was certainly not coerced, and is by no means dumb.
Now, he wants a new deal with another huge bonus, and he is bad mouthing his quarterback for "getting tired" in the superbowl. Is this the fault of Rosenhaus? Is T.O. being duped?
As football fans, we cheer players, not agents, so it is much easier to lay the blame at the feet of a guy like Rosenhaus than MaGahee, should he demand a new contract. Imo, the players are at least as guilty when it comes to not honoring a contract.
Many of them have been pampered since their teens. They have been showered with gifts from boosters, and had other students take their college exams for them. We have seen one of our own players go broke and need a new contract. I have a hard time blaming his agent.
In summary, I view agents as an easy villian. We can cheer our favorite players and blame those greedy, rotten agents when things go bad, but in reality, it is at least a two-way street.
Jmo.
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Ware is projected is an outside LB in a 3-4 Defense who will rush the passer. Late 1st round pick. See him as a Chris Doleman type. Great pass rushing ability. Finds the ball quickly. Explosive first step and burst. Hustles all over the field. Has trouble shedding blocks and needs to get stronger. Concern that big Tackles will tie him up. Tweener type, situational pass rusher.. 6-4 251 lbs.
Whether the Bills move Clements or not, it may be wise to grab a CB in round 2 or 3.
Thanks Mark. I have also seen him listed at 259, but I am more inclined to believe the 251.
Imo, this kid is going to have a great future. He had a great 40 time, has long arms and great pass rush moves.
If only there was a way.
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Congrats, and God Bless!
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Thanks Mark.
How do they rate DeMarcus Ware and when do they project him being taken?
Do you think the depth at CB makes a trade involving NC more likely?
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Oh I would hazard I guess that he'll stop about the same time the GOP in the State of Washington quit whining about losing the governer's race and drop their stupid lawsuit.
OH silly me, that's right, when it happens to the Dems "they lost, shut up and stop whining" but when it happens to the Repigs it's "where there's smoke, there's fire, so run to the courts, quick!".
Puhlease.
"Repigs" Debbie? Come on now.
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Whatever dude. You really did lob me one, but i will take the high road, OK?
Either way, I did NOT send this person a PM.
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One thing to remember about Woodson's contract is that it was inflated in 2005 for two reasons...
1. Last year when the Raiders tagged him, they did so as an Exclusive Rights Frnachise Player, which somes with a larger price tag than the Non-exclsuive Rights tender.
2. This year, when they opted to tag him again, they had to pay him 120% over last year's salary, which is how he wound up with the $10 M number this year.
Although Woodson's own number will play a role in inflating the franchise tag number next year --as it will undoubtedly be the top salary amongst the top 5 to be averaged -- the franchise number figures to be significantly less.
The number IS less, but not by much. Franchise Players are paid either an average of the top 5 at their position, OR 120% of their salary, but whichever is GREATER.
It was posted here that the number would be 8.86 million as I recall.
CP, are you out there?
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Nice of you to now "out" him. At least in the original post, you left his name out.
Keep up your banner work.
As to "positive" responses, you're getting all the hugs you missed a a tyke. You should feel very happy.
I'm sure it won't be long before you write a post to let us all know that you are leaving the board. A final "look at me." Then another on your return... under another assumed name. And on and on.
Thanks for sticking up for me, but I have a confession to make.....
I never said that I was the smartest guy here, but I truly have zero idea what he is talking about. How did he "out" me?
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It is not up to me what is or isn't fair on this board. The mods do the work and it is thier responsibility. They do a great job, and this comes from a poster who HAS had posts deleted.
I think your posts create an environment which eccourages others here to insult eachother's religions. Naturally, I think this is not a good thing.
PS: The apology for rudeness does stand, and I am not hoping, nor have I ever suggested that you be banned. Again, this is not my decision.
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I sense that NC saw what was paid to Winfield and has been drooling ever since. Btw, I do not blame him one iota.
As for Samuels, I think he was renegotiated very recently and is not an option.
I admire your courage for being ready to take the risk of losing NC with no compensation. He IS an extremely good player.
I just hate the thought of letting him go for nothing, and can see why TD might want to at least explore all options.
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IMO Nate needs to stay and get paid. He's a guy that consistently produces turnovers year in/out. He's also become an above average tackler/hitter and a very good cover man. Plus he has an incredible knack for getting yards in the punt return game and (obviously) is willing to play on special teams. He has good size and speed to boot. I will understand if we can't retain him NEXT YEAR due to over-the-top demands from his agent, but I will not be happy if we do not have his services THIS YEAR. Draft picks are far more of a crap shoot than a lot of people want to believe.
Fair enough. 4 questions if you will:
1) If you were GM, how much would you be willing to pay NC? Please include the amount of the signing boune.
2) How much do you honestly feel he would be willing to accept?
3) Is there any amount of trade compensation you WOULD be willing to accept for moving him before this season?
4) Are you willing to risk seeing him go and get zero return for him in 06?
If Losman is our first round pick this year...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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KTD, didn't SD dump their starter as soon as Leaf was ushered into town? Did this prove anything? Of course not. Leaf was a dismal failure. There lies the "homer" flaw. If JP was on another team, would you be gushing over him? Would people be using his ill advised statements to some little kid as proof of "leadership?" Would posters be naming themselves "Big Cat?" Hell no, and I think that you know I am correct.
I know you like semantics, and you are good at it, but JP proved more in the hospital than he did on the football field.
JP might be good at some point, perhaps great, but allow me the dignity to not sit by the door of Canton waiting for him to be enshrined.
If he makes it, save me a seat, OK?
