Bill from NYC
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>>>Add to that JPL's mobility and he, unlike Drew can probably make effective short yardage throws and still has a cannon of an arm to get it downfield when called upon.<<<
You could have been describing RJ with the above. JP has proven zero at this point and would certainly not serve as a lure to offensive players.
He made a remark to some little kid at a speech and got 3 pages of praise on this board which is fine, but hardly enough to make a UFA want to come to Buffalo.
That said, players will as a rule follow the cash, thus making the question almost a moot point.
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I'm sure the Bills would like to re-do Williams deal. That pretty much is the idea when you backload a rookie contract as drastically as the Bills did. But I don't even think we can entertain the idea that they feel a "need" to make cap room until they cut a Pierson Prioleau or Coy Wire. They may feel satisfied that Williams is on the path to success now. They may be entertaining thoughts of moving him to left tackle but at a right tackle contract.
But, re-negotiating a contract is usually just stalling the impact, so worrying about his cap figures.....well, it's still going to cost. The Bills are not in a bad cap situation, they are being frugal by choice, and if folks here think that making cap room will allow the Bills to add free agents they otherwise wouldn't, I think they're wrong. If they want DeMulling, they can get it done. If they wanted PLAX, they could get it done. They are choosing their path in FA.
Two questions:
1) Do you think that DeMulling is good enough to make room for?
2) Do you think MW would be a good LT?
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Other than Warner and Faulk, how would you say that the Rams built their superbowl winning team? Orlando Pace, the 1st pick of the draft, was as responsible as was any player, no?
Additionally, the Ravens would probably not have got it done without draft picks such as Lewis and Ogden.
Imo, one winning method (there are others) is to pay the bucks to blockers such as Ogden, Pace or Jones.
Mike Williams makes more than all three of these guys. The Bills will never win while in this situation.
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Dont be too sure. The Bills biggest need has been OL for many years. This is not something new, but they almost always go in other directions.
I am all but sure that the Bills will take a corner with their first selection.
Wait and see.
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By those figures, it would cost the Bills 6.54 mil. in amortized bonuses alone to cut him. As for next year, it depends on when that 3 million dollar roster bonus is due. If it is due pre 6/1/06, the Bills are truly screwed. They would not be able to soften the bonus hit if he is cut.
Look at those numbers, and think back on MW reporting to camp as a beached whale. The truth is, he was a very bad selection. I am a TD supporter more than a detractor, but signing MW was one of his worst acts as GM.
McKinnie is said to not be doing well either, but at least he plays LT. Left Tackles are paid more, and harder to find.
Our only hope is that he plays to an all pro level and earns at least some of this obscene money, but there is nothing to indicate that he will.
I hope that one day, the offensive line of the Buffalo Bills will stop dragging down the football team.
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I object to the treatment of the girl, if it is true. Sex crime is wrong no matter who perpetrates it.
As for the "shivering" 17 year old, I dont care. If this makes me a bad person, so be it.
Petrino, I must say that your post is very transparent. This is obviously nothing more than a slap at the president, as if he is over there looking at the girls breasts. Yeah, OK.
Dont you wish that you could sit on the lap of Nancy Pelosi and tell her your tales of woe?
Perhaps you could also tearfully kneel at the feet of your queen, Hillary, that great stateswoman who tells jokes about Asians, and no longer loves abortions.
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I dont think anyone here thinks that Mike Williams is worth 9 million bucks a year, and we'd all love to take that money and spend it towards FAs. Sadly, we cant...cutting Big Mike only screws us further with the salary cap and he wont restructure. So we are stuck with what we got for the O-Line.
Good post! The Bills cannot, in all probability, cut Big Mike until after 6/1/06. This season will be his do or die year in terms of staying on this football team.
Looking back, MW was a pretty bad choice by TD, but the draft was not especially strong. Also, the OL was SO bad at that time, there was no other direction for him to go.
If MW, the highest paid RT in NFL history, plays at a pro bowl level, his cap hit will be easier to live with. Sadly, whether or not he will do so is a crap shoot at best.
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Over the team's history, that's asking for a lot of research. Depends on how you categorize it otherwise. Best single draft by a team usually defers to the Steeler's 1974 draft - day 1 they picked Swann (HOF), Lambert (HOF), Stallworth (HOF), Allen, and Webster (HOF). Pretty tough to top that.
For the doom and gloomers, here's what a Pittsburgh-Post-Gazette columnist had to say about it: "The Steelers seem to have come out of the first five rounds of the draft appreciably strengthened at wide receiver but nowhere else. They didn’t get a tight end, and the ones remaining are more suspect than prospect. They didn’t get a punter, although none of the nation’s best collegiate punters went in the first five rounds. They didn’t get an offensive tackle that might’ve shored up what could well become a weakness. What they did get was Swann, who seems to be a sure-pop to help; Lambert, who figures to be the No. 5 linebacker if he pans out; and three question marks."
Good info! Do you know who Dallas drafted the year after the Herschel Walker trade?
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The players know something you obviously don't: HE'S NOT A ROOKIE
Any rookie QB has no prior training or practice with an NFL team prior to mini camp after the draft. Right now, JP is training every day at Ralph Wilson Stadium, while every rookie QB is nowhere near an NFL supervised schedule. No rookie QB has practiced with veterans or had a team's elder statesman comment on how he was lighting it up against one of the NFL's best Ds in practice last December.
My answer is that no player is worried about playing with 2nd year veteran J.P. Losman.
Of course not. They have all read this board and realize that there is NO friggin way JP will not be enshrined in Canton.
They also are sure that the OL will matter little because JP, unlike Drew, can escape any and all pass rush, and make huge plays at will.
If anything, JP attracts free agents.
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I'll be happier with 8-8 or 9-7 and no playoffs this year with JP than I would 9-7 or 10-6 and no playoffs this year with the Dearly Departed.
I'll be able to UNDERSTAND no playoffs this year with a rookie QB.
I'll never be able to understand DB's inability to lead this team.
It's as big a mystery to me as his inability to complete a screen pass or him throwing the ball out of bounds while trailing with seconds to go in the 4th quarter.
So, a worse record will make you happy just so long as Drew is gone? Is that it?
You have Losman penciled in at either 8-8 or 9-7. When if he is a total bust and can win only 4 or 5 games. Will this interrupt your glee even a little?
Drew is gone. Why not get over it and simply devote your emotions to JP, the savior?
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I once accidently stole a bottle opener from Badolbilz, so unless he reported it, the stats are false.
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I was wondering why you were being so nice!
If the answer is yes, I hope that is she is walking and comes to a puddle, she stands there and waits. I will come running over and place my coat in it so she can walk accross.
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The fact that other than taking Mike Williams in 2002 this front office has continued to over look the engine that makes the car run is a definite failure. While TD has taken care of the skill positions on offense he choses to put bandaids on the O-line. This goes as far back as Butler. (RIP) I really thought this was finally the year we get a quality line but thus far their is little reason to believe that will change. IMO
Here is a little OL draft history.....
When TD came to town, the Bills had perhaps the worst OL in league history....certainly up there. Remember names such as Spriggs, Ostroski, a washed up Fina, Farris, Hulsey, Nails, etc? It cost nearly 11 million in dead cap space just to get rid of Fina and Ostroski, two stumblebums.
TD grabbed Jennings in round 3 as I recall. This was a steal. He passed up on OG Steve Hutchinson with the 14th , and traded down for #21, with which he got Clements and a #2. I was screaming, but it was a good move.
Next, he took a chance and drafted an injured MaGahee. To do this, he passed right over OG Steinbach. I was screaming, but it was a good move.
The thing is, at some point TD is going to have to go after a stud OG early in the draft. This year? I dont know. What we do know is that our #1 is gone, and the team desperately needs cornerbacks.
Because he was selected at #4, MW is "eating" the teams' salary cap to the tune of 9.15 million dollars. If he does not produce in a huge way, it is unreasonable to expect the Bills to be successful. This number constitutes more than 10% of the entire cap. Imo, in order to earn this type of money, he will have to play like an all time great RT, or at least the best RT in the current NFL. Will he do so? I doubt it, but let's hope.
Imo, 05 will be the deciding factor for Big Mike in terms of him remaining on the Bills. If he is average, a cut after 6/1/06 would not hurt so much. If he is great, TD can worry about other OL positions.
In any event, the Bills need big young studs on the OL. It worked for the steelers, whereas their scrubs were pushing our guys around....and yes, the OL has been holding back the Buffalo Bills football team for 10 years.
The good news is that McNally DID improve it, and can continue to do so.
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Good point Simon. It also included Travis Henry. During his stint as the starter, how many games did we go without a rushing touchdown, this as a "smashmouth" running team?
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I never expected a baseball player to use steroids. Let alone a baseball player who retired early because he couldn't stay healthy. They'll all end up going down as steroid users. McGwire, Sosa, Bonds and most of the rest of them that have been fingered by Canseco and Congress and rightfully so, if Pete Rose gets banned for off the field gambling, then there's no reason why these guys shouldn't be for on the field cheating.
The difference between the steroid heads in baseball today and Pete Rose is that unlike Rose, the juicers did what they did with the unofficial blessing from the sport.
Baseball was floundering after the strike. Fan interest was at a low. Do you think that the owners were happy or sad to see McGuire hit 550 foot home runs? I have been through with baseball for many years, and even I would turn it on to watch these tape measure blasts. Do you think for a second that the owners objected?
This is strictly my opinion mind you, but I think that baseball is MLB is alive today primarily because of the media push. There are SO many games that the networks, especially WFAN, push baseball ahead of other sports. On superbowl sunday, they were talking about the Florida Marlins. Do you know anybody who cares about the Florida marlins?
Because there is no hard cap, only a few teams baseball teams have, or will ever have a chance to win. As far as I am concerned, the game is ruined.
Btw, I know a former minor league player who is a baseball instructor. He claims that virtually every player from the Dominican Republic is on some sort of steroids from their teen years. It makes sense. These guys have the opportunity to work their asses off in the blazing sun for 10 dollars per week, or play baseball for 15 million per season. What would YOU do?
In summary, roids sell tickets, and I think that almost every sports fan knew that heads dont grow, 20 inch forearms dont just happen, and players dont turn into home run hitters in their mid 30s.
The MLB owners, who now claim to care, are full of sh--.
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Sorry, my bad.
Gotcha.I will however make the case that getting rid of this inferior miscreant and gaining 1 mil cap space is a good thing for the Buffalo Bills football team under virtually any circumstances.
Sorry for the screw up.
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It would still be an absurd notion (as much as I respect FFS). Evans, R.Brown, Holocek, Cowart, Jennings, Winfield, and Clements are just a few of the recent players that have helped the Buffalo Bills football team in their rookie season. Notice that they are not all first round picks.
A player CAN help the team in his rookie year. A stupid, used up malcontent cannot.
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This sounds like a likely scenario to me and it will be a shame from my perspective as a Bills fan because trading him for a draft pick (even a #1 next year if a team were foolish enough to ignore the market and do that) is essentially the same as trading him for nothing in return for this team.
FFS, I am hoping that you do know how much I value your opinions and look forward to your postings.
Sorry, but the above is just off the charts wrong! Ruben Brown was a 1st round pick. The "Great" JP Losman was a very late 1st round pick. WM was a first round pick, as were Bruce Smith and Jim Kelly.
What in the world makes you believe that there would be "nothing in return" for a 1st round pick, especially when compared to a sack of dog sh-- like Travis Henry (not that this is even a remote possibility)?
I was critical of Henry even when he could gain yards, because he was fumbling the football away to our opponents and losing games for the Buffalo Bills football team. Now, he is even worse. In 04, he could not even run. He just slid on his useless, stupid ass and continued to lose football games for the Buffalo Bills until he was benched.
The time to trade Travis was before last season when he had some value. At this point, especially considering his laughable contract demands, he is all but worthless.
As another poster correctly stated, the day we get rid of this lowlife will be a better day for the Buffalo Bills football team. Soon we will probably once again read about him in the police blotter but until then, it is time to turn this ugly page and toss out the garbage.
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KH, have you changed your mind on playing MW at LT?
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I am not so sure BGIM. We did get Jennings with a 3rd round pick.
Also, we desperately need a corner, and the lack of a first round pick certainly does not help.
Personally, I would not be so quick to trade away our 3rd.
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I beg to differ. There's plenty of deadwood that can be chopped and restructuring of contracts that could go on. Granted, I don't understand all the nuances of salary cap/contracts, but if there's a will then there's a way. If teams like Tampa, Oakland and even last year's San Diego can find ways to sign high profile players, then someone as clever as TD can find a way. The return on a player like EJ could translate in either draft picks or current veteran players who could fill needs for us, then this could be the value move.
At some point, you may arrive at the conclusion that TH has little to no trade value. Edge for Travis, huh? While not as ridiculous as Travis straight up for Gallery, this is just another home team wishful thinking post.
As we speak, TH has an agent trying to make a trade, and GM who is eagerly waiting to dump him. Where are the offers?
Do you think for a second that Peyton Manning would allow the mentally challenged Travis Henry on his team? These players have seen the missed blocks, falling on his face, wrong passing routes, etc.
Dont be too surprised if he isn't released outright, because other teams know he will not be a Buffalo Bill in 05.
I do however TOTALLY agree with you that he should have been dumped before the 04 season, when he did have some value.
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So do I. After Travis misses a few blocks and Manning winds up in traction, we wouldn't have to worry about the Colts winning too many games.
Edge is a complete player. When he can maintain his footing, Travis is a decent runner. Other than that, he does nothing well. Besides, can you imagine Travis trying to figure out all of those Indy audibles?
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1) Chris Speilman
2) Bruce Smith
3) Bryce Paup
But my favorite current Bill is Coach Krumerie, the toughest man in the United States.
Mike Williams cap figure continues to bother me
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Very good post, in which you raise a legit point.
I guess what bugs me is that the guys you mentioned play at higher paid positions as compared to RT. That, and the fact that they were also major contributors to superbowl wins.