Bill from NYC
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He drops passes, and does not do much if anything on special teams. The sooner we cut him, the happier I will be....and imo, the Bills will be a better football team.
Say goodnight Josh!
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No, Im from the crowd that thinks that this should be an even trade. Apparently we all disagree on who is valued at what.
I feel Henry is a top ten RB, therefore I want a top ten T in a straight up trade. You could argue that a top ten LT is worth more than a top ten RB but BOTH have been heavily tagged this offseason, so the front offices dont seem to feel that way.
If you say that Henry, as a top ten RB is only worth a top 15 T, fine. I hust see Shelton as even worse than that.
View Travis as a "top ten" RB as you will. In truth, he is a top 10 loser. Why not examine his dismal record as a starter. He sucks, but perhaps the Cards really do need a running back enough to trade us Shelton for a future pick and this loser.
But hey, dont let me interrupt your fantasy of TH as anything more than a braindead, so-so at best running back.
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Shelton is a demoted LT, has been switched to RT before, and has never made the pro-bowl. In fact, he was a backup last year.
Travis is a pro-bowl running back, and with Edge, Shaun, and Rudi all being tagged, he is the best available RB out there.
Why in the hell do we trade a pro-bowl RB for a backup OL? Dont try to sell me that he is a stud LT, he isnt and wasnt, he was a backup and unlike the Bills was replaced with by a guy who was a G and doesnt look to be much better.
Henry is a starter, Shelton is a backup at this point.
With Moss being traded and getting as much as he did in trade value, why cant we at least get a 2nd from Travis?
Heres my specific points:
1) Shelton right now, today, is NOT an upgrade to Jennings
2) TD has already stated we werent good enough on O, why do you downgrade at the LT spot then?
3) Shelton at RT would be OK, but there are other RT's who can play just as well, Womack and McKenzie are 2.
4) There are team that need a feature back, Henry as a pro-bowl feature back is worth a hell of alot more than a serviceable LT, IMO
I just dont see that we are getting enough value out of this.
And then to hear that Denny wanted a pick as well? are you frikkin nuts? well that a rhetorical question anyways.
Well, what makes this a good trade for the Bills are the facts that Henry sucks, and LJ apparently does not.
Sorry, are you from the "Henry for Gallery" crowd?
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No doubt AD. Does this change the fact that he sucks? He dropped pass after friggin pass last season. I am thinking that JP does NOT have this learning curve to be able to afford these repeated awful mistakes.
Jmo.
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I dont know how seriously to take it, but a poster who claimed to "know" once said that Reed is a party animal.
Personally, I think that in spite of his good rookie season, he sucks, and I am hoping that he will be jettisoned from the Buffalo Bills football team as soon as possible.
JP, with his lack of experience, truly does not need a wr with butter hands. We need to give him more solid options.
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There's enough hypocracy to go around for everyone. One side wants to ban smoking and guns but wants freedom of speech and expression. The other side wants to restrict what can be shown and heard on the public airwaves and ban burning the flag but wants the freedom to smoke whereever they want and no restrictions on gun ownership.
Are there any Indian territories in Alabama? Just another item they can sell at their local Native Pride store. "Hey, hey, Jason Seneca here. Ladies, do I have a deal for you."
>>>There's enough hypocracy to go around for everyone. One side wants to ban smoking and guns but wants freedom of speech and expression.<<<
You have it almost right, but the "zero toleration left" also wants to ban freedom of speech on college campuses and anywhere else, unless it involves Hillary making a racial slur against Eastern Indians.
Other than this, I see your point to some degree. remember, neither AD nor I have ever presented the smoking issue as one involving "smoker's rights." We are looking at this as a right of property owners to allow a legal substance on their premises.
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I promised myself i would never show up on thie place drunk but I need help. In the middle of beer pong and being a \jackass, I fell on my face and chipped on of my teeth. It the one next to my front teeth on the botttom. My canine i guess. Its chipped the f*ck in half. should i just call a local dentist (i dont know sh-- out here in south bend) in the morn or what? Ive never been a drunka@ss to this point before.
HELP! me please
~Young and Stupid at ND
Time for some bridge work young man. It wont be cheap. Do you have insurance at school, or through your parents?
Btw, you would not be at ND if you were stupid. Just be careful, OK Kid?
Good luck!
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I forgot, which law was it that stated you had to go to an establishment that permitted smoking?
The intrusion of government into the rights of private property owners when it comes to regulating legal behavior by adults is not what freedom is about. If there were a market for smokeless bars, there would be smokeless bars.
You have the right not to frequent these establishments and to tell the management why you made that decision. The big picture says this is the tip of the iceberg and liberty will continue to erode (as the link you cited proves) - you have yourself to thank for that.
Great work once again AD!!! People are in such glee over the ban that they are just willing to forget little things, like the rights of property owners, etc.
Some day, people will see how symbolic the ban was as a giant step toward the erosion of many other rights that people enjoy, but by then it will be too late.
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I guess you missed my original point, which was it was ironic that a lot of idiots here are doing hand stands because Drew Bledsoe is no longer a Bill, yet at the same time, they just assume that some other teams cast off "couldn't do any worse than Bledsoe." I will go on the record, I think the Bills made a foolish move in cutting Bledsoe. I am not saying I think Losman will be a bomb, or a future HOF'er, I have no idea. Most of the anti-Drew fanatics seem to assume that it will be the latter.
Again, I don't know, I just hate the idea that management decided it was better for the franchise to go with an unknown, unproven player, with no significant back-up in place. If they are serious that Shane Matthews is their first choice to back-up Losman, than I think they are not really anticipating the Bills being a legit contender next season. For me, the playoff draught has lasted long enough. If people choose to blame everything that went wrong this past season on Bledsoe, than they have to give a lot more credit than he probably deserves, for everything that went right. In the end, this team was finally showing tangible progress on the field. They may again be very successful, but cutting Bledsoe was an unnecessary action, which provides the team with no salary cap releif (anything they saved will be chewed up by his replacement). I seriously doubt that Bledsoe would have been a locker room cancer, had he lost out in a open competition with Losman. Say what you will about the guy, but his reputation as a team first guy is maybe his strongest assett. Now, our most realistic options are journeymen and dreck like Jay Fiedler.
Oh, I missed your point all right.
That was a great post. >>>>>I am not saying I think Losman will be a bomb, or a future HOF'er, I have no idea.<<<<<
The above is my favorite sentence in it. None of us know what to evpect from JP, despite how certain the majority here are that he will be "better than Drew."
That said, I no longer stress about it. We have zero choice other than to trust the coaches and hope for the best.
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>>>>>I don't care where he got his degree<<<<<
Well, I admittedly do.
I DO however want to give you props. At least you came up with an alternative.
This will be fun to watch, no?
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Drew certainly had his problems, but he is gone.
The truth is, JP played about 15 seconds and was almost killed while brushing up against a defensive back.
He MIGHT very well be a good qb, but this is not etched in stone by any means. I just think that Fiedler would offer the Bills a very solid alternative should JP get hurt or suck.
Believe it or not, both are quite possible.
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Point taken. Now, how did Henry look as compared to 2 years ago? Like bumbling, stumbling fool, right?
Fiedler got his ass kicked due mostly to an OL that resembled the pre-McNally (and CV) Bills. Then, his great RB wigged out. Henry's OL improved a TON and he was inefficient. In fact, the team started winning just as soon as he was benched, yet he is held in SO MUCH esteem by SO many, issues of every sort not withstanding.
My point is that fans place FAR too much emphasis on the qb position. Yes, they make the big bucks, but they cannot be expected to play well with a sub par offensive unit, let alone a dumb running back falling on his ass, dropping passes, running wrong routes and refusing to block.
Fiedler, imo, would be a great fit if he comes for a semi-decent price. I think he wants to come to the jests because he is from LI, and he suspects that Pennington is shot. He might also look at JP as the big question mark that he is. He will probably go to the highest bidder imo.
I hope it is the Bills.
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Where does this notion come from, that Fiedler doesn't throw away games? I have a very good friend, who happens to be a die-hard fish fan, who will swear to you, that Fiedler did, in fact, lose games for the Dolphins! He was dreadful in a couple of games against the Bills, in fact!
Funny to think, what you are all saying about Fiedler, there is some fans in Dallas today saying, "Bledsoe may be getting up there, but with that arm, he will put us into instant contention..."
And why would this surprise you? A strong portion of the posters here blame Drew, and only Drew for all the woes of the Buffalo Bills. Many lesser fans of every team certainly point directly and ONLY to the quarterback.
There are people who think Henry is great and Drew sucks. This says alot.
Fiedler won lots of games for Miami before their OL and running game fell apart. He would be a perfect fit in Buffalo to back up an unknown entity in JP. Or...do you have JP penciled in for Canton, and as an immediate, full answer to what was wrong with the Bills?
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Welcome to the best site on the internet. The webmaster and the mods do a fine job, and you will find some posters he with a great deal of knowledge and passion.
I agree with everrything that you posted. As for PW, until a particular poster suggested that I pay more attention to him, I tended to under value him as a Bill. While I no longer do so, I agree that there is a fairly good chance that he will be gone.
Edwards certainly progressed and this would soften the hit to a degree.
Were it up to me, I would sign PW to a short term contract with a small bonus. I just dont think that he has too many years left, and it would be a waste to have to eat the bonus down the road in terms of the salary cap.
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Joe, go to Capucines!!! It is on the S/W corner of E19th St. & 2nd Ave.
I make sure to go there a few times per year. The food is so good, I could start crying.
Try the Red Snappers Mare Chiata.
Either way, everything they sell is great, and the prices are not SO bad.
Capucines is one of the best features of NYC, but if you didn't know about it, it would be just another non-descript restaurant that you would walk right past.
It is amazing.
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I don't know, but it probably shouldn't be the PBA. How many officers did they suggest/agree should be terminated for poor performance/breach of the code of conduct or for any other reason during 2004? Out of the tens of thousands of cops in NYC, I'd assume they should help weed out at least a few bad apples, no?
Also, how about the economic impact of the abuse of overtime rules? Who's watching that? The budget for public employees in NYC is simply staggering, and yet I've lost count of the number of protests I've seen at City Hall the past few years for richer public service union contracts.
KD, NYC Police Officers are currently paid more than $40,000 LESS than Nassau and Suffolk County Police Officers. To put it another way.....police officers are being paid this much more to patrol Great Neck, Brookville and Head of the Harbor than to walk the streets of Brooklyn on a cold dark night. Any sane person can see the inequity of this equation.
The above listed depts have a 20 year pension...the difference being that NYC Police Officers pay more than $100.00 every 2 weeks for this. The other departments get it at no cost.
What NYC cops DO get is a $12,000 check each year on top of our pensions. This was negotiated by a previous PBA President, Phil Caruso. To get this benefit, we actually gave the city a quarter of a billion dollars from our super-solvent pension fund.
Phil was a Police Officer with 2 masters degrees, and was a great and pragmatic labor leader. He was good both for police officers and the city.
If you are interested in NYC history, PM me, and I will tell you of a major event involving Phil that was settled before things got TRULY bad in NYC. It is something that few will ever discuss.
Phil was THE man!
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John, you are totally correct! AKC pointed out out how Guards are becoming more important due to the wave of 300 lb plus monster DTs. If the Bills could land a top (CV) quality LG, and McNally can go to work on Shelton, the Bills could be very close to having a dominant OL!
Good post Bro!
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hasselback has been signed and alexander will be tagged.........
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/spor...461_hawk22.html
who said the free agent market would be "flooded" with RB's, driving down henry's value??
alexander -- tagged
rudi -- tagged
edge -- i would be shocked if he doesn't get one as well
henry is the best back on the market.........
Even if one was to accept the premise that Henry is the best back on the market, our glee and expectations should still be tempered by the fact that Faulk in his prime cost a 2nd and a 5th, and Dillon went for a second.
There is simply no way that he compares to either of them. I am holding out against hope for the Shelton deal.
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Well said JA. The bottom line is that it is far easier (although less glamorous) to get a RB than a person who can play LT.
If TD can pull this off without giving up a draft pick, this will be a stunning accomplishment.
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>>>>It would be a tremendous risk to go with Edwards as a starter and I would not do it unless Anderson (or perhaps Bannan) showed me they can step in and give him the blow he needs or even start if he plays like he did in his first three years rather than like he did in spots last year.<<<<
Agreed. This will be a complicated decision for the coaches to make.
This will be one interesting offseason, that is for sure.
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This appears to be a situation where the coaches like Josh, and they did make it a point to give him some playing time.
Personally, I really like the kid. He is a demon on special teams, and did have a pick while on mop-up duty.
I believe that if he gets a chance, Josh will be a valueable contributor to the Bills for many years. One has to admire his effort and dedication. He is also one tough SOB.
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He already does on a substantial number of plays, and imo, is a better pass rusher.
PW is not an every down player. This does NOT mean that I would not want to keep him. What I do mean is that I would rather that the Bills do not tie up 4 million dollars or so of precious cap space on Pat Williams.
If he comes cheap, great! If not, I would prefer to let him walk. Jmo.
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Ill sum that up for you.
This board is loaded with losers.
You got the "proper english guys"/ The "Im dieing to get into cablelady's pants" crew/ The "Im smarter than you but I weigh 400 pounds and not smart enough to take care of myself" group/ The "Ill hang in here until my porn is done downloading" group/ The "Is there really life outside of my computer" crew/ Then we have the "Ive hit rock bottom and started to dig" group.....
So come with it tail lickers...
Navy, that is pretty mean, no? What's up bro?
Not happy with the TH for LJ trade!
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Of course I would like to see more! I love the Buffalo Bills football team!
That said, what I want and expect are two different things.
If TD could pull off this trade straight up, I tip my hat to him as a GREAT GM. However in truth, more humans can run (and be lacking in each and every other phase of being an NFL RB) than can play LT.
Honestly, I am puzzled at how any truly serious NFL fan could disagree.