Bill from NYC
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the bills backed pat williams into a corner and gave him no option but to look elsewhere...........they gave him ONE "take it or leave it" offer in the summer and never made another offer, right up to the day he signed with the vikes.......no contact from when the season ended until he turned a free agent - zilch........what was pat williams supposed to do?
despite being disrespected like that, he still gave the bills the opportunity to match the offer he had, which they declined to do.........
it's funny how almost everyone that leaves the bills is considered some kind of a**hole by the masses around here......pat williams did nothing wrong and if you want to assign blame for why he isn't a bill, look no further then bills management who decided they didn't want to invest in the cost it would have taken to keep him here.......he did what he had to do, and that being said, i respect his "insider" opinion on the current team.......
3. The Bills (I read it Donahoe) is screwing TH over. He said either trade him or release him. Give him time to learn the playbook for another team.
Please explain how the Bills are "screwing" Travis.
HE came in, hat in hand, wanting an extra year on his contract. TD gave it to him, along with a bonus. Now, after a dismal season, he is under contract for upwards of a million dollars, and is not participating with the team.
What's the problem?
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>>>>>And I'm prob the biggest Travis fan on the board.<<<<<
Wrong! This honor is reserved for VA Bills and me.

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What can we really expect out of this kid, I mean we cant get down on him if he even goes 7-9 with this team. The fact is hes a rookie and no matter how good our defense is, he will have growing pains. I mean 10-6 is a bit too much too ask for JP.
I prey to god he proves me wrong but the closer we get to the season, the more i think we should have gone with drew one more year and took our chances. I just wanna make the playoffs but that will be hard when we have a new QB learning the ropes.
Something else that tends to be scary is alot of these websites say alot of teamates feel losman was a bad choice and now you hear fat pat say it as well, it just makes me as a bills fan nervous.
What is acceptable for JP as the Bills QB this year as far as win totals go before you guys wanna kill him?
First of all, my compliments on a brave post.
I have said all along that going another year with Drew was my choice. The Bills have some very good players (Fletcher, Milloy, Vincent, Moulds) that may not last as long as it takes for JP to develop, especially behind a very average OL.
NC will be a ufa, and it is unrealistic that an 87 year old owner who has less cash than most others will fork over 50 million dollars to keep a cornerback. Frankly, I have my own doubts about that kind of cap allocation to a corner.
Despite the above, I have nothing but praise for JP in terms of how hard he is working. I have taken a liking to the kid because of this. He also does have some pretty good teachers.
Additionally, it is a done deal. We cannot have the 6 or so slots we traded up for JP back, nor can we recoup the 2nd and the 5th. Drew is on the cowboys, and I wish him well. I think they are a team on the rise.
Can JP take us to the playoffs? I will agree with the other poster who implied that the OL might be the deciding factor. It HAS been for more than 10 years, thus the lack of playoff appearances/wins for the Buffalo Bills.

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1) I predict that a combination of Edwards/Anderson will be an actual improvement over PW before the season ends.
2) Chances are he is correct, but the kid is working as hard as one could ask. 50/50 from where I sit.
3) There, he is full of sh--. Travis never learned the Bills playbook, and could not do so with help from a reincarnated Vince Lombardi and a team of Ivy League Professors. Travis is a player under contract to the Buffalo Bills Football Team.
Good riddance PW! Tell your story walking, that is if you still can in a year or so.

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Zero. The mods did a good job with the "kinder, gentler" thing.
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Not sure how hot she is, but I sense that she would be WILD in the sack!

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The physical conditioning is probably not that big an issue. He always appeared to be in good shape.
The thing is, Travis is a virtual idiot, who probably needs practice in trying to remember his left from his right.
As some of you may recall, I was against the trade for JP. The thing is, this kid is breaking his ass every day and is poised to prove me wrong.
Travis otoh couldn't remember blocking assignments nor run correct pass routes when he practiced every week. Being idle cannot be helping him in terms of learning what little he seems to be capable of grasping.
Despite what many say here, there ARE reasons why TD was unable to dump TH, and it is NOT because the other 31 GMs are "dumb."
Travis is extremely limited, and is not helping his cause by pouting.
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Would you rather have another thread about how we cannot unload Travis Henry for a 3rd round pick?
This topic was left off with the tidbit that all 31 GMs were stupid not to cough up at least a 3rd.

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When it was "Hell's Kitchen" there were admittedly problems galore. This area is what "West Side Story" was based on. The Irish Gang ("The Westies") was out of control. They were killing each other. These guys were nuts.
The good news is that many different ethnic groups, in time, lived in harmony. There were African Americans, Eastern Europeans, Irish, Italians, Puerto Ricans, and everybody else all in the same buildings and they actually looked out for each other. Apartments were affordable.
Today, perhaps you can rent a one bedroom apartment for something in the neighborhood of $2,300 per month, IF you are accepted by the yuppie co-op board. You can walk down the street and eat sushi, or dine in a vegetarian restaurant.
Which is better? I am the wrong guy to ask. My life is a latter day version of "West Side Story." I am married for 21 years to a Puerto-Ricana from Manhattan. One daughter attends an Ivy League school. The other scored high on her SAT and is interested in UB.
I guess that I prefer "West Side Story" to "Caramel Macchiata Story," but hey, I suppose that my scope is limited.
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Then we primarily agree.
It seems to me that many in power did not see these acts of abuse to be as disgusting and shocking as they in fact were. I don't attribute ALL of this to "too much forgiveness."
I sincerely hope that this rapidly changes, because I do not wish to see the collapse of the Catholic Church.
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I don't want to turn this thread into me bashing Catholics. I am NOT.
I happen to believe that it is more "Christian" to punish a child molestor than to transfer him to another parish and unleash him on other innocent children.
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Wrong but try again. Unlike the government, the "taxation" is done on a local level through donations. The dioceses and up then "tax" the local parishes to garner their money. Obviously this is needed to support the bishops and the Pope.
Unlike some religions that force you to tithe, and a lot are very forceful in that you are required to tithe 10% and they check your wages out to confirm. I have many Jewish friends and they are required to pay a set donation every year to join the synagogue.
The Catholic Church is different in that they do not force anyone to donate, or tithe. It is up to you and on your honor. There is a lot of administrative overhead and they do need to make appeals to help fund these things. The Catholic Church and charities are second only to the US government (and they might be first) in providing services. money, etc... to the needy. While most churches do this none do it on a scale that the Catholic Church does.
And yes the Church does have a some bad priests, nuns and parishiners who do things in the name of the Church. But just like any other organization there are always going to be bad apples. The Church has taken a lot of flak and rightfully so for attempting to forgive and absolve some who have done aggregious things. But this is what Christianity is all about.
I was with you 100% until the last sentence VA.
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This has been happening for years in Boston/Cambridge. Most of the old punk venues are closed down due to gentrification of the neighborhoods, or expansion of the Universities (Boston University tried for many, many years to shut down the Rat in Kenmore square. The owner refused to sell to BU, but eventually caved to a hotel developer. They razed the entire block and put up a hotel. Kenmore Square is dead to me). It's nothing new. Money talks...what a shocker.
I know about gentrification. Hell's Kitchen is now "Clinton."
My problem is when governments disregard the constitution and cave in to the dictatorial yuppies.
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You are against the war in Iraq, correct?
Can I take the above to mean that you will no longer complain about it because those for it are in power at this time?
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I did that for affect, glad you picked up on it!
It is exactly what he (Bill) does.
Your sidewalk analogy is off base. A sidewalk is not a person. Big difference.
You guys still don't get it. You gotta stop if YOU, A PERSON are harming somebody and are told to stop. The burden is on YOU as a PERSON. Sidewalks are not people.
So what you are saying is that you are copying my style? I am flattered.

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What am I suppose to cry? Maybe they can push for cracking down on people who drink on boats? Do you drink booze while you drive down the road?
Your tailgates have already been made to start later (at least in stadium lots) becasue a certain fan after a NYG game crippled a little girl (on here way back from a pumpkin patch)driving home drunk from the game.
I will still enjoy tailgates, just without the booze, same way I enjoy state parks and what not.
I don't need the alcohol.
I will do just fine thank you.

The little girl you mention is one of the saddest stories of my lifetime. Having 3 daughters, it strikes a particular chord.
Sorry, I have a problem with wiping out a tradition (tailgates) due to one incident. Btw, much of his alcohol was purchased INSIDE the stadium. Do you support a ban inside stadiums?
Not everyone who tailgates maims children. Can we agree on that? There ARE laws on the books against DWI and they also apply to boats. I have zero problem with enforcement of said laws. I in fact welcome it.
As for me personally, I have shared beers at tailgates with literally dozens of posters. Please try to find one who has seen me drive. You will not.
EIL, I am merely trying to point out that people are flawed, and will stay that way despite behavior control from right wing whackos who want to place Howard Stern behind bars because he is "indecent," and/or left wing dictatorial, intolerant yuppies.
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Reference points on my comments versus the run were early games and then a regression against Pittsburgh. I think it was the first Jets game where they really picked on him-to the tune of 3 or 4 straight plays to his side for an average of 6 or 7 a carry-he began to improve in the second half of this game. It was trial by fire.
The Miami game at home also there where a couple of plays in the first half with Sammy Morris running where he was non-existent.
I definitely believe he improved, but can still get better. As for the Pittsburgh game--I think the entire D-line had an off day that day.
I guess I looked at this original question as what does he need to do to become an elite player, but we do have a different opinion of him against the run.
Here was a comment from TD in a 12/20/2004 Chat:
Tom Donahoe: Chris Kelsay has shown outstanding improvement each week of the season. As a matter of fact, our defensive end position with Chris, Aaron Schobel and Ryan Denney is one of the deeper positions on our football team. We actually feel that we have three starters at that position. You can see the improvement in Chris' play with his ability to be better against the run in terms of recognizing what teams are trying to do to him. As a pass rusher he has provided a very good compliment to Aaron Schobel. Chris has brought toughness and a top work ethic to our team.
The comments by TD are telling.
DE (along with QB abd LT) is one of the 3 hardest positions to fill on an NFL football team.
Kelsay was an excellent pick, and I for one expect continued development.
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are going by the wayside. Are you out there EIL? This is right in YOUR backyard!
If you take time to read the link, yuppies are buying into neighborhoods and demanding that they close bars.
Like me, hate me, but I (along with AD and others) predicted this mess.
Enjoy your tailgates, they will soon be a thing of the past.
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Why is it hypocritical?
He is not a cop anymore. His job was to ENFORCE the law, not make it. I can just imagine how he would act if he was still working.
The law is the law. When it is your job to enforce it, you do just that. You don't undermine it, whine, kick and scream. Do your job and what is told of you.
Instead of crying on a message board, spend some of that retired time trying to get lawmakers to change the law?
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EIL, are you now taking a stand for strict enforcement of every law?
If a man with a perfect driving record is driving with his wife and kids and forgets to signal when he changes lanes, are you FOR this man getting summonsed to court?
Should ALL Jaywalkers be targeted as well?
Police work lesson #1: You cannot survive in this business without the use of DISCRETION.
Police work lesson #2: You cannot survive in this business without friends. A badge and a gun do not make one more powerful than the society one protects.
One poster on this board claims to have been victimized by police (ticketed) on a holiday, in the presence of his children for something he deems minor. Truthfully his story seems sketchy but if true, that officer made an enemy both to himself, and other cops.
You can't please everybody. There are times where you simply must "do what you gotta do," but trust me, it is better to strike a balance than to ride roughshod over people and simply enforce everything; which is a losing proposition, and can border on bullying and abuse.

Problem with Pats fans
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Take it easy. You have you sb wins. They belong to you as a fan. Enjoy them.
If you have forgotten, this is a BILLS board. If you expect us to bow down and tell you that the pats are as good as the Cowboys or Steelers dynasties, you will be in for a long wait.
Certainly you can think of better ways to spend the hours (or decades).