Bill from NYC

You know, I actually tried to answer you but I cannot. You are kicking my ass. It is too much for me to even entertain the idea of a first round corner. Sorry.

I don't even know how well any of our TEs can block. Do you? I know Nelson cannot. Kevin Boss will be a UFA. He would make the Bills a better team the second he would walk in the door. Forget stats, the man is clutch, and he can block like an OT. He's a throwback to another era. The Bills would have to cough up more than market value for him imo, but he would be worth every penny and this discussion would be moot.

Again, I truly do enjoy your football posts. Time and again they make sense and are thought provoking. However, I will not debate the above with you. Nope, I will merely ask you to take it back.

First of all, that is a freaking great screen name for a Bills Fan! Your point is also well taken about letting players go. Losing Milloy led to Whitner at #8, etc. And, Roscoe did look good before he went down. I want to make clear that I am not calling for Parrish to be released (assuming he fully recovers from his injury). I stated that his release wouldn't surprise me. Mr. Wilson will only spend a certain amount of money overall and hopefully this regime, unlike Levy/Jauron, will be unwilling to tie up too much money on gadget players. I am not sure if we have one blocker on the team who makes as much money as Parrish, as sick as this possibility sounds. If there had to be a choice, I would rather tear up the contract of Levitre (notice I didn't say Wood) than extend Parrish, but this is merely my opinion.

Of course, but teams can also up their offers in the final 10 minutes. I am guessing that it happens all the time.

I won't. They ran up to the podium and made the selection in less than a minute.

I don't get the need for hostility but so be it. I question whether or not you see scores at the end of games. Have you noticed that we are consistently losing? Also, did you catch the fact that for the last 10 or 15 years, most of the Bills top resources have been allocated to shrimps, simps, and a couple of overpaid blimps? Go ahead and pull out stats that say: 1) Roscoe was a great selection. 2) Bell doesn't give up sacks. 3) Whitner has a lot of tackles. 4) Spiller isn't the only rookie to start out slowly. It might make you feel better but again, we are losing football games. And, one of the main reasons for this is because we are small, weak, and use our best draft selections to take players at positions and talent levels that were a dime a dozen. Other than the above, you raise some great points.

Thank you for this.

I agree with you, but there is some merit to the OP. Imo, it depends upon just how much money Nix/Gailey/Ralph want to devote to gadget players. Spiller is making a ton of money and isn't going anywhere. Look at it this way: There are individual offensive linemen that might be paid more than every blocker on our roster.....combined. I do not have the time nor desire to do the research, bit it is possible imo. Too much of the Bills salary structure is devoted to tiny little "speedsters," and the team is losing football games. Also, Nelson is a promising rookie who might be able to deliver more than Parrish. It is possible. In any event, I wouldn't be shocked if he stays or if he goes.

Until the pick is actually made, I will in fact fear that the Bills will draft a defensive back. Logic says they won't but history tells us otherwise. That said, if my hunch is correct, the Bills are going to draft a quarterback. Mr. Wilson sent Nix all around the country to scout qbs, am I correct? It is very hard for me to imagine him footing the bill for those travel expenses for no reason. And btw, this is NOT to bash Mr. Wilson. I am touched by his recent donations to the poor and elderly. He is a good man, and I sincerely mean this. He just has no business making football decisions imo.

This would include me. I was furious when he was selected, but I thought he would break a few long ones and sell some tickets. One can never win an arguement when there is no proof, but I will always believe that Spiller was a Ralph Wilson pick. Mr. Wilson saw what a rb like Thurman could do, and thought that this would be the next Thurman Thomas. Posters on this board often compared their sizes as well, to prove that Spiller was "big enough." Ralph also figured that Spiller could break some long, exciting runs and draw fans. Imo the only hope Bills Fans will ever have is for Mr. Wilson to let the Bills football people make the decisions. That, and to avoid bottom of the barrel hires such as Levy and Jauron.

And you are correct. Time and again I have praised his agility, but he simply isn't strong enough. Jumbo Elliot lined up many times against Bruce Smith. Very often Smith would dominate him, but other times Elliot would win the match-up. My point is that playing against a good, or even great DE is no excuse to get consistently beat because when a LT gets destroyed, so does his quarterback. Bell has improved, but he doesn't make the team stronger, and despite "global warming" , the weather is now cold. Running the football will matter more. The team MUST get stronger in 2011. If Bell is to be a good LT, he has no choice.

I don't see it. He could develop into a great kick returner, but he seems to be slipping backwards. People have called him a "shutdown corner." This is utter nonsense. He gives up yardage and he isn't a physical player. Face it, drafting him at #11 was an exercise in stupidity, just what one would expect from Levy/Jauron.

Point taken. But if I was his coach I would want him to tone it down just a bit. He has some beautiful receptions this year but his team is 2-10, and he continues to drop important passes due to his obvious lack of concentration.

Perhaps, but I wasn't the 8th selection of a draft. I'm a walk-on from Community College.

1) I am not going to pick on Fitz today. He had no help, and even went over to Nelson after the TD to congratulate him. He WAS trying. It appears he is turning into a leader. Imagine that. 2) Giving myself the right to go back and forth, I am once again going to call Stevie Johnson a possession receiver with bad hands. I am sick of his drops, and perhaps even sick of him as a person. Maybe I'm just venting. 3) Ding Dong. Is that the Avon Lady? No, it was the sound of Bell, getting his bell rung on virtually every play. I will never deny his agility, but he is every bit as weak as he is agile. Was John Fina stronger than this guy? Is this really our LT of the future? Is this what we waited 3 years to see? What a freaking mess!!! 4) "Best Player Available." Don't you love that term? CJ "Blood" Spiller. Is that what he was, the "BPA?" I think that if a 5 year old girl tapped him on the shoulder to ask him a question, this "BPA" would hit the turf, and hard at that. 5) McKelvin was just so awful today that I am literally laughing as I type. Laughing to keep from crying. Remember when Dick Mauron talked about how happy he was when McKelvin was still there at #11? I do however see what is wrong with him, and it isn't pretty. He is brainless, the poor guy. And he doesn't compensate with football instinct because he has none. 6) Speaking of mental lapses, Lee Evans went over the middle today. He bobbled the pass but did hold on. As I was watching the game, I found myself agreeing with those who post that Evans would have been a good player if he was on a good team. But, this was after 3 Heinekens. 7) I can't help it. I like Gailey and I even think Edwards will be an improvement over the Dick Mauron defense. But wrt Gailey, I felt deep sympathy when the cameras focused on him after one of the many Bills blunders. He looked so sad and confused. Obviously, he is a stanger to the long term despair, pain and calamity that serious Bills Fans are just so accustomed to. 8) To all of you Paz haters: He isn't great, but he is one of the players on this roster who belongs in this football league. 9) Thank you Donte for bringing me back to reality. That penalty for elbowing a down receiver was every bit as untimely as when you were selected with the 8th pick of an NFL draft. 10) There was NO right side of the offensive line today. Call it a chasm. 11) OK, so I am a little grouchy tonight. Complaints notwithstanding, I will never give up. If the Bills draft right, they can contend soon imo. What we Bills Fans have is a shipwreck, but one that I am proud to be a part of. Fans, give yourself credit for being loyal and legit! Some day our loyalty will pay off, perhaps in any number of ways. 12) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Overall I would say Jim Brown but he was before my time. For a span of 2 or 3 years, I never saw anybody as good as Earl Campbell, but that is jmo.

I agree with this as well. Arm strength and coordination are directly related imo. JP had a great arm for a fly pattern and a good (though lacking the touch that you mentioned) fastball. But, he had to step into his passes more than Bledsoe, who could throw a 60 yard strike with so much air under it that it would fall vertically into a receivers hands. Fitz, unlike the above mentioned, can do very good things on the run. Remember what would happen when JP would roll right? I agree that Fitz has enough skills to take this team to the playoffs, and would appear to be ready to start in 2011, even if they draft Luck or Mallett. If he is our starter, I hope he has a better OL, and I would like to see him run it himself more often. He is I must say not hard to like.

I agree with this, especially that Fitz has more all around arm strength than Edwards, to include a better fastball.

Your OP is a good one. I do want to add something wrt the list of requirements. Joe Montana didn't have a good deep arm. The thing is. his need for one was lessened because he was SO good in SO many other areas. For instance, his composure was beyond compare. Never have I seen a qb able to find 2nd, or even 3rd receivers in seconds. And, he was pinpoint accurate; he threaded the needle at will. Fitz doesn't have a great deep ball either. His biggest assets are guts, brains and mobility. Still, he really will have to settle his accuracy issues in order to take the next step. As for the quote, "all the throws," this is one of my favorite topics. One thing that I have learned in my years watching football is that there are many, many different types of arm strength. If you wouldn't mind, could you be just a bit more specific in terms of what you mean by this? Thanks.

Of course not. Fletcher was very good for many, many years. Ram fans were pissed off when we got him, and he was even good after he left the Bills. As for Spikes, I have been blasted for saying this but imo the pre-injury Spikes was Hall of Fame material. His game was complete; he was very, very good at every phase of his position. The step and strength that he lost due to the injury is what seperates good from great. So no Mike, I don't liken Poz to these 2, but I think he is better than what is being posted about him in this thread. He is usually around the football and gives it his all on every play. He is strong and pretty agile imo. PS: Fitz isn't as good as Kelly, but he looks OK, ya know?

I think it's OK, because Wade is one of the top defensive minds in the game. If he was asking Jauron I would have a problem with this.

Much of this post is indisputable. The Bills need better players, and most of them have to be on the OL and front 7. And, if they think that a certain quarterback will be a superstar, they shoud grab him imo.