Bill from NYC

CB, not trying to pile on here but there is nothing that EJ is good at. He won't run until it's too late. He throws uncatchable incompletions. When he manages to complete a pass, he doesn't lead his receivers and throws behind them more often than not. When his receivers are wide open they have to wait for the football. Listen, EJ is awful. Yes, simply awful. Now, will Orton last the season behind our guards? I hope so but it's a reach to say the least. What will probably happen is that EJ will get back in and continue to suck. That said....... GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am surprised that this thread didn't get more attention. Do you think that Mularkey would have made a move like this without consulting Donahoe? Marrone isn't exactly my favorite coach of all time but he really does have a redeeming factor or 2. And I DO believe the report from a month or so ago where he was alleged to have told Whaley, "if you want, fire me," or words to that effect. He needs to retain control of the team and keep the players believing that they have a chance to win. I respect this move and btw thanks for posting this.

And this came immediately after 2 timeouts on 3 plays. The truth is this is not new to Marrone. Last season he threw away several chances to score before the half. We have Brandon to thank.

He also could have ran out of trouble but he did not. He absolutely sucked. It was as disgraceful a performance that one could visualize. The defense was great under these circumstances to keep the football team in the game. EJ needs to get the hell off the football field so a quarterback can give this football team a chance to win.

1) Was it me, or did McKelvin call a fair catch on a couple of punts that it looked like he could have returned? 2) Please excuse me, I am going to be less delicate and more scathing today. 3) Carpenter's successful field goal was probably a contributing factor to the blood pressure of the average Bills Fan. I actually thought that he missed it. 4) Let's see....we are near midfield with 30 something seconds before the half, and no timeouts. Do you spike the ball and set up a few plays? No? OK, let's line up and throw an inbounds 3 yard pass. Marrone and Hackett are not up to the task. They are sub-par coaches who are WAY over their heads. So is Brandon who hired these Syracuse cronies. Hopefully, they will all be fired, and they can take Whaley with them. 5) EJ completed 21 passes today. My contention is that most of his completions even sucked. He was not leading his receivers and was throwing late. The TD pass to Sammy should have been an easy play. It wasn't. Much more to come on EJ. 6)Broken heart don't feel so bad, Ain't got half a what you thought you had. Rock your baby to and fro, Not too fast and not too slow. And I say row, Jimmy, row Gonna get there? I don't know. Seems a common, way to go Get down, row, row, row, row, row. 7) Manuel had many opportunities to run. It looked to me as if he didn't have the balls to do so. 8) Kyle Williams was clearly double covered when he blocked that pass in the 3rd qtr. He is as fundamentally sound as any player we will see. I hope his knee is OK, and the same applies to Bradham, who looks very good. 9) The interception by McKelvin was so off the charts great that its hard to describe. It was the best play of his career, and I have a hard time picturing him ever making a better play. That was a great play for Deion Sanders or Mel Blount. He not only muscled the ball from the receiver, but he went up a mile high. What a freaking play!!!!! 10) If Marrone has a hair on his ass he would bench EJ vs. the Lions. Orton may not be that good, but he is a professional quarterback. And I am guessing that if Orton makes a good play, he won't feel the need to stare up into the screen. That said, Marrone probably will not do this. He and Whaley are clinging to their last shred of hope. It's sickening. 11) Once again, my man Searcy is making pays. The truth is that even Gilmore didn't hurt us today. 12) What did you people think about the Bills time management in the first half? Does this look like a professional coaching staff? I am going to call it disgraceful. 13) Yeah, this game was on EJ. He was no better than Thad Lewis today or even Tuel. I am calling for him to be immediately benched. If you disagree, please tell me how much time you care to give him, ok? 14) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I normally resist the temptation to cite the importance of individual games. They all seem to be just SO important, but this one sticks out imo so I want to address it..... 1) Houston can be beat, and it would be an important road win in a conference game. 2) Win or lose, it will be a tall order for this inexperienced coaching staff to win next week on the road for the 2nd week, in a dome, against a very talented Lions team. Not impossible mind you, but a VERY tough task. 3) EJ will be tested because of Watt, who is tearing up the league. Every EJ scenario exists: a) He could step up and take over the game. b) He could suck. c) He could get hurt and Orton could win (or lose). d) Anything else. 4) 3-1 is a beautiful thing. Yes, we have been down the road of good starts before only to see to see them go sour. That said, 3-1 is still a nice situation. 5) A win, coupled with a loss from ANY of our divisional opponents (let alone more than 1) would be HUGE. And this division isn't looking all that great, ya know? So there it is. On Sunday I will be happier than the norm if we win and more disappointed if we lose. I truly do want this game big time! Bills Fans probably need this game more than the team does. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes but this is a two way street. Most fans (and I don't blame them) HATE to come to terms with the fact that a top 10 pick was a bad selection. This is because it's facing a situation that really does suck. Look, I did this. For WAY too long. I thought that Rob Johnson was going to be a great qb. I looked at his skill set and thought that he would excellent. I learned my lesson. The Bills have a nice pass rush and their front 7 is built for the run as well. Am I out of line for expecting a #10 (Gilmore) and a #11 (Mckelvin) to make plays? These are precious resources. People defended Whitner for years. Some still do. The thing is, he was a #8. He cost the Bills well over 30 (36?) million real dollars and a true cap hit. We could have drafted Ngata. We skipped on Branden Albert and Clady to draft McKelvin. We took Spiller at #8. Last week I was singing his praises for taking over a game. I will do it again if he performs, but he was a bad draft selection. Watkins, who looked GREAT in week 2, cost us a #9 AND next years first. His qb is EJ Manuel. Do you like this scenario? My point? Fans have the right to expect production from our best resources. And again, folks don't love to come to grips with the fact that many of our best resources were flushed down the toilet.

Good question. I was thinking the same thing.

My friend, you might want to look this over an re-think the last sentence.

Agree, and that is a great description. On many of the crucial passes that he does give up, he isn't always flat out destroyed. He is beat by JUST enough for the offensive play to work. The problem is that things like this lose football games. I think that aside from the qb position, the Bills have a better than average roster. It's confusing at times mind you, but there is a lot of talent. That said, with us being shaky at QB, the positional players have to step up more. How are we doing in terms of TOP this season? Not that great? A few plays by Gilmore really could even this out and be a tremendous help to this football team. Better guard play would kick ass but I digress. This Sunday is a big test, no? If Gilmore is any good, one would think that this is a game in which he could surely step up. Let's hope!

Bandit, I trust that by now that you know that I value our dialogue. That said, I must strongly disagree with you. You probably know more about corners than me but when I evaluate them, I don't go by pure stats. I look at the passes that they gave up. Were they TDs? Were they key first downs? Gilmore gives up plays like this consistently. As far as Gilmore on running plays yesterday, he was flat out disgraceful and this is not hyperbole. I didn't love the Spiller selection either, but he took over the Miami game, and I was here singing his praises. Imo you don't THINK you are doing it, but it seem as if you really are part of the Gilmore excuse machine. He was a # freaking 10 selection in an NFL Draft. It's time for him to take over a game and win one for us, let alone not stink up the field. Be well and GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I couldn't agree more, and wish that Levitre was still on this football team. That said, Spiller is what he is. He's a very fast runner with very small strides. He has great moves but cannot see holes at times, and this is what stops him from being great. I cannot understand why they keep using him up the middle for gains of 2, yet they do it constantly. Btw, imo if they activate Bryce Brown, we are going to be happy but hey.....I could be wrong.

1) I want to sing big time praises to Aaron Williams. Not only were his numbers good (9 tackles/5 assists), but he gave everything he had. He sacrificed his body on a tackle late in the 2nd quarter and came back. Kudos to you Mr. Williams. 2) If Spiller could see a hole ala Thurman, he would be an all time great. I mean this. There was a play in the 2nd quarter where he had a decent gain on a reception and he went the wrong way. With good vision, he could have been gone for a TD. 3) The second quarter was awful, no? EJ missed Watkins who was wide open and might have gone in for a TD. More to come on EJ..... 4) Dareus played his ass off today, better than anyone else on the DL. I loved his pursuit, and he never looked gassed, despite the defense being on the short end of Time of Possession once again. 5) Nobody on the OL played well today. That's right, nobody, including Cordy Glenn. Pears was particularly awful from what I could see (along with Wood), but having said that, EJ took WAY too much time to make decisions. 6) Shaking in the garden, the fear within you grows. Here there may be roses, to punch you in the nose. Twist their arms around you, slap you till you cry, Wrap you in their sweet perfume and love you till you die, When push comes to shove, you're afraid of love. 7) I can't say enough good things about Fred Jackson. The 3rd quarter TD pass was a sight to behold (as were his stiff arms throughout the football game), and btw, Watkins threw a really nice block on that TD. 8) Hey, was I seeing things? Did Gilmore get a facemask penalty AND get injured on the same play? Seriously, he was a liability today vs. the pass and even the run. At one point I was hoping they would take him out. It is way, WAY more important for the Buffalo Bills to win football games than it is to pretend that Gilmore is good, let alone a "shutdown corner," which is laughable. 9) I am not going to say that Mario provided much pass pressure because he did not. But, he did very well against the run. 10) The bottom line is that EJ sucked today. He waited to long to throw, AND to take off and run. 11) Am I the only one who is sick of these plays where the Bills gain yards and come up a yard or so short of a first down? SOB, that happens WAY too often and pises me off!!!!! 12) EJ goes down just a bit too easy for someone his size, especially on running plays. 13) 11 penalties for 101 yds, is totally unacceptable. 14) This post is not about throwing in the towel. I don't throw in f%#(&^g towels, but this was a very poor outing and we need to get WAY better in order to compete. 15) GO BILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, it's next to impossible. As much as Bills Fans have suffered, we have seen the team get Jason Peters for nothing, and now Henderson in round 7. And keep in mind, if any GM knew how well Cordy Glenn would play he would have been a top 5 draft selection. We lucked out there too, big time. EJ is still learning, but he really has a ton of tools. Make no mistake, life for him would be a lot worse without these 2 monster OTs. But as you seem to be, I too am nervous. I cannot imagine just how crazy GMs thought Henderson was for him to last until round 7. I was keying on him for much of the game and the kid is VERY, VERY good. I can't wait to watch Henderson and DJ Fluker on Sunday. Fluker is a flat out monster, SO good that he was drafted at #11 to play RT specifically. It will be lots of fun to compare the two. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate the term "smart player" for several reasons I won't get into, but KW really knows what he is doing out there. Dareus had two blockers on him when Kyle made the sack. It looked like he knew exactly where to go. There was a poster here years ago (AKC) who constantly emphasized the importance of the DT position. Not only was he correct, I think that with the rule changes the position has grown in importance. QBs and WRs get all the calls. Pressure has to come from the middle now to upset the play. I hope that the Bills continue to be strong at DT now and in the future.

I couldn't agree more! Marrone was bad last year in the 2 minute drills, especially at halftime. That said, I'm not sure if I ever have watched anything as awful as what I saw today from Philbin. Thanks Coach Philbin! It was SO bad that I think that Miami will be a non-factor. It was mind boggling.

ABSOLUTELY!!! But I try to limit the comments. Really, it's about fostering discussion. But you are 100% correct, Spikes blew that play up!!!

1) Call me a broken record. I have been called worse. The thing is Da'Norris Searcy can play football. If I was a GM, he would be on my football team. Limitations? Sure, but the man makes PLAYS. 2) Chandler is a strange player. Isn't he hard to really grade? His catch today (the play that was over turned) was flat out tremendous. He also caught a key first down. 3) You see, there are no stats to confirm this, but Seantral Henderson played about as good as a Right OT is capable of playing. 4) There is much to say about Watkins. People, he was COLLEGE open!!! He truly was. On many plays there was nobody near him. EJ missed him for a TD, but I will get to that, and more on Watkins. 5) Those who have read my posts know that I want players, especially high draft selections, to take over a football game and win it. Well, CJ Spiller did just this today and I am here to say it. Hats off to John C. Let's hope he can continue to do this. 6) Corey Graham is just so good. OMG does this man make play after play!!! 7) Wake up to find out that YOU are the eyes of the world. The heart has its beaches, its homeland and thoughts, of its own. Wake now discover that you are the song that the morning brings. The heart has its seasons, its evenings and song.....of its own. 8) Watkins? He was just sick today. This kid was "college open" in the NFL today. It's important that we as fans understand this. The guy was alone on pattern after pattern. It was just SO impressive. Seriously, this is the NFL. The kid was by himself on numerous plays. This imo is just so rare. 9) Anthony Dixon is another player who can win a team football games. 10) Nigel Bradham played to his preseason form. He is a tough guy, and btw so is Preston Brown. 11) Congrats to all who were at the TBD home opener. I was there in spirit and thinking of you. 12) EJ was OK today, but I'm not going to go too crazy. Again, I cannot stress just how open Watkins was. He almost had a couple of picks, and I wish that he would have run more often, but that's not his fault. 13) Gilmore continues to be a concern. Sorry, but it's true. 14) Mario didn't show up huge on the stat sheet, but he is flat out great. Yes.....great. 15) OMG I'm sorry to be trite. I've spent a lifetime trying not to be. But in a weird way, after all we have been through, Bills Fans ARE the "eyes of the world." 16) Congrats my friends and fellow fans. 17) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I tend to agree. Society needs to send a message that it's an OK thing to beat 4 year olds until they bleed, to include their "nuts" Gotcha.

Blue light rain, whoa unbroken chain, Lookin' for familiar faces, in an empty window pane.

During slavery, parents had to be very stern with their children because if they revolted, they could be killed or sold by slave owners. This sickening, ugly period of American history caused untold damage to several generations. I don't think that any sane person could deny this. That said, let's fast forward to AP, shall we? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/adrian-peterson/ You do the math. Peterson has mega millions of dollars. His children are safe, except of course from predators such as him. He could afford any therapist in the USA if he thought the child had a problem. Instead, he grabbed a weapon and proceeded to beat and yes, torture him. AP does not deserve any justification or sympathy. I think I might be through with this topic.

Thanks, and check this out.....https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/510555310679805952 Nice, huh? Sorry Honey but by the way, while I was beating him and taking skin off of his body, I accidently hit him in the "nuts."

Tom, in NY this is a felony (Assault 2) if there is a visible physical injury because the "switch" is a weapon. In NY objects are seen as weapons. I wasn't there and I don't know what happened, nor why the mother deemed fit to seek medical attention for her child. That said, please keep in mind that AP is a professional football player. I say this in terms of his strength. I hope that the child isn't seriously injured. Let me add that if you personally did this in NY, you would be in a world of chit. When AP got jammed up in a bar, Jim Miller was on Sirius blaming "over-zealous off duty cops." My guess is that AP is just another pampered scumbag. If that kid is injured, I hope that he does lots of jail time. This case does strike a nerve with me. I have seen things in my life that human eyes were not meant to see, but there is nothing worse than child abuse. Nothing.

There is some truth above, but the explanation is too simplistic. My take is that because of the rule changes, teams will actually play 4 or 5 wide at times. Who is the best corner in the league? Revis? OK, but he can only cover 1 receiver at a time. In the old days, Mel Blount would neutralize 50% of the opposing team's wide receivers. Times have changed. And of course, these penalties are getting insane as well. Still, having a good secondary is a vital part of team balance. Corners will never be unimportant. That said, if our pass rush can pressure and sack Tanneyhill, the Bills can win. If not, receivers will get open. Keep your eye on KW and Dareus. If they get pressure up the middle, the dolphins are in big trouble. And they can go for it because Spikes will be there to counter a draw play. In summary, it's true. If I was building a defense I would concentrate heavily on, and allocate more resources toward pass rush than the secondary. Do you disagree?

Absolutely! It would not surprise me at all if Rice dropped 50 or 100 Gs. Now, add in some substance (lots of it) and you have yourself a mess. Think about it, here is a physical specimen with millions of dollars in a hotel with a very hot young lady who at least appears to like him. Sounds like a dream come true, no? So instead of being in a luxury hotel suite with this beautiful woman, he is downstairs dropping wads of cash and getting stoned. And she had every right to object; they were engaged. That said, Rice is a criminal. He is violent and has no impulse control. That punch could have easily killed a strong adult male, let alone a woman. He deserves what he gets and my guess is that he will soon be a destitute criminal in lieu of a rich one. I do however feel a bit sorry for Goodell. He has been placed in the role of a cop and a prosecutor, but imo he is neither. He's a CEO of a multi-billion dollar conglomerate. If this was my case, I'm not sure how happy I would be to turn tape over to a private enterprise, so I really don't know if he had this tape or not. Either way, I am not calling for him to resign or be fired.