Bill from NYC
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Never.
The Bills and this board have been with me through great and bad events of my life. I appreciate both, whereas they have both been important to me. One moderator despised me, another dislikes me but tolerates me, and I appreciate this.
What I have been able to learn is to be better at handling the horrible losses. I have even come to expect it, but thats ok. Tell me, am I the only poster who suspected that we would lose the 13 second game? I'm saying NO WAY! Things like the (overated) Stevie Johnson dropping the best pass of Fitz's career prepared me for horror stories. The only thing that still gets to me is the focus on the secondary, despite other more important needs. I'm even better with that because I know damn well it will happen again and again and its beyond my control. Many, many years ago (perhaps even 20 years), @SDS posted that he is a bigger fan of Bills Fans than the Bills. I never forgot this post and I agree with hm.
To give up on the Bills would be to also give up on the friends I have made from this board and tailgated with, and I can't do it.
GO BILLS!!!!!!!!
OUR DAY WILL COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That is a shame. From what I understand he is a really good person.
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26 minutes ago, T master said:
I want to see Taylor & Hailey in a cage match as the half time of the AFC Championship game between the Bills & the Chiefs winner takes all ...
It would be fixed for Taylor to win. She draws bigger crowds and the league and advertisers would make more money.
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Long Island, NY is a wonderful place to live. It has beaches, fishing, golf, great food, highly rated schools, and great medical care. The crime rare is low in most parts. There is just so much good about Long Island but the taxes are just insane. The SALT changes will help to some degree but the taxes are REALLY way too high.
I have been up to Williamsville, NY many times and I absolutely love it there. I could stand the cold but not all of that snow.
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1989 was a fantastic year summer for the Dead. Their concert in Philly was wonderful as were the ones in Buffalo and the Meadowlands. Jerry appeared to be relatively sober.
RIP Jerry.
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Taylor Swift. Case closed.
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20 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Interesting article. The highlighted are my added notes to the ESPN story.........so here are the Bills and some Bills related one's with 3 McBeane related all-time picks mentioned right in round 1 and some actual McBeane greatest picks later in the draft:
7. Adrian Peterson, RB (2007)
The last non-quarterback to win the MVP award, Peterson led the league in rushing yardage three times in his career: 2008, 2012 and 2015. "All Day" was my pick over Champ Bailey, but watch out for Josh Allen. He and Peterson have the same number of MVP trophies and Super Bowl appearances ... for now. (Allen will own this spot soon and probably deserves it already IMO).
10. Patrick Mahomes, QB (2017)
Our first active player is Mahomes, who somehow easily clears Rod Woodson, Terrell Suggs and Marcus Allen despite being maybe halfway through his career. A two-time MVP, three-time Super Bowl champ and three-time Super Bowl MVP, Mahomes will likely build a compelling argument for being the greatest quarterback ever by the time his career is done. (McDermott dealt this pick to KC and ended up with Tre White and the 1st round pick they then traded up from to select Tremaine Edmunds)
22. Justin Jefferson, WR (2020)
Thank goodness there were no Hall of Famers to snub with the 22nd pick, making Jefferson an even easier selection for me. Never forget that Jefferson holds the record for most receiving yards through two seasons of a player's career (3,016) -- as well as through three seasons (4,825), four seasons (5,899) and five seasons (7,432). Guess which record he'll hold at the end of this year? (acquired pick as part of the exchange with McBeane for Stefon Diggs)
42. Rob Gronkowski, TE (2010)
Four Super Bowl rings. Four first-team All-Pro appearances. A uniquely dominant prime as a pass-catching tight end with elite blocking ability. (The Buddy Nix Bills selected the Troupacabra instead of the local product)
70. Fred Warner, LB (2018)
Easy pick here, as Warner will go down as the best linebacker of this decade and one of the best linebackers ever. (unfortunate that Warner ended up being so much better than Edmunds and the Bills traded a second rounder to move UP to get Edmunds)
73. Jason Taylor, DE (1997)
Another Hall of Famer was also selected at pick No. 73 in Bears DT Steve McMichael, but it's tough to hold a candle to Taylor. A winner of Defensive Player of the Year (2006) and Walter Payton Man of the Year (2007), Taylor had both a dominant prime and a long stretch of viable play. (This one hurt me to my core during that 1997 draft......the Bills picked Marcellus Wiley over him. Wiley was a nice player but Taylor was the HR pass rushing OLB they desperately needed for that defense. It was a frustrating stretch in the 1990's where John Butler did not take advantage of the abundance of quality 2nd and 3rd round pass rushers available to 3-4 teams. This one hurt double because Taylor became a Bills killer.)
75. Russell Wilson, QB (2012)
Tough break for OT Terron Armstead, who is one of the best third-round picks ever but isn't better than this Super Bowl-winning, Walter Payton Man of the Year-winning quarterback. (Russ is kind of a joke now but he was one of the best in the league for a long time. Buddy Nix famously traded up to take the awful TJ Graham at 69 thinking he could get Wilson in the 4th round. What an a$$clown of a strategist he was. https://billswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2020/07/22/buffalo-bills-david-lee-claims-wanted-draft-russell-wilson-dak-prescott/79402255007/)
86. Andre Reed, WR (1985)
Another odd density of Hall of Famers, as pick No. 86 carries Reed, Rams OT Jackie Slater and Saints kicker Morten Andersen. Reed is an easy selection for his seven straight Pro Bowls and 16-year NFL career, 15 of which were in Buffalo. Don't worry -- my kicker picks come later. (Finally the Bills have a winner. The best 86th overall ever. I gotta agree. Jackie Slater is tough to beat though he was also great).
111. Terrence McGee, CB (2003). (A win for team Donahoe. We are at the stage of the draft now where there are some not-great all-timers mixed in with HoF types).
134. Kyle Williams, DT (2006) (Levy/Modrak struck gold with the pick traded to Houston for Eric Moulds).
148. Khalil Shakir, WR (2022) ( Khalil may never live up to the @Alphadawg7 hype but what he's done is good enough to be the best 148 ever. McBeane's 1st official win but Allen will eventually be the best #7 overall.)
171. Gary Anderson, K (1982) (I guess this win for Buffalo would be Norm Pollam and the rest of the strong but largely forgotten group of scouts that Chuck Knox brought to Buffalo from his Rams days. Greatest kicker pick ever according to article and foreshadowed in the Andre Reed pick write up. This one sticks hard in the craw of one @BUFFALOBART who still holds Anderson in great disdain for intentionally failing his way off of the Bills roster)
185. Christian Benford, CB (2022) ( That's 2 all-timer day 3 draft picks for McBeane. Fingers crossed his brains aren't scrambled from those concussions and can have a long career.)
253. Roland Hooks, RB (1975) (The pickings were slim at 253 apparently. Certainly the most unlikely Bill to find on this list.)
255. Don Majkowski, QB (1987) (The Buffalo born Magic Man looked like the real deal there for a brief time.)
Thank you for yet another great post! It amazes me how so many great players were drafted so late.
I noticed that they chose Jake Scott on pick 159 over Bryce Paup. I was very young when Scott played but remember thinking that he was great. Bryce's career being cut short had to affect this ranking, but some of my favorite Bills memories consist of watching Bryce rush the passer at RWS. He was brutal and great at using his long, strong arms to fend off blockers.
Really, that was a great link!
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I'll be back in the high life again
All the doors I closed one time
Will open up again
I'll be back in the high life again
All the eyes that watched me once
Will smile and take me in
And I'll drink and dance with one hand free
Let the world back into me
And oh I'll be a sight to see
Back in the high life again -
3 hours ago, boater said:
"That was fully investigated by the school...It was one of those where there was zero information saying that this actually happened."
I think that police departments do better investigations than schools. Do ya remember what happened at PennState? I for one would not take a school's word for any criminal investigation, but hey;.....that's just me.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
Yes, the trade up for Elam was orchestrated by Beane. But nobody is saying McDermott played no part. The relationship is just not as you portray it. And for some reason despite being told this multiple times you continue to insist on it.
Let me be clear. I respect your football knowledge quite a bit and admire your posts. You also seem like a nice person. That said, just because you say something "multiple times" does not necessarily make what you say factual. If that was the case, everybody could say something again and again and be 100% correct just by virtue of doing so.
We will never agree on this topic, nor is there any real way of finding out the truth. It's all cool.
1 hour ago, FireChans said:I mean even if McD is running the draft/offseason and Beane is a glorified yes man, then his value to the org is effectively zero.
Very confusing why you seem to harp on this as a defense of Beane.
I am not defending Beane at all! I am putting the blame on McDermott for continuing the Bills tradition of too much focus on defensive backs, despite other bigger needs. This started with the trade of the Mahomes pick to the Chiefs and extends all the way to this season, when instead of providing Josh more weapons, he drafted another first round corner.
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58 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
On the former - because that is how it works. Beane isn't a scout but he is the General Manager. He takes the views of his personnel staff, he takes the views of the coaches and he factors all that in to how they build the board and then the selections he makes. Howie Roseman didn't come up the scouting route either. Not all General Managers do. Indeed some of the best modern day GMs don't there is a lot more to it than that.
On trading away the pick used for Mahomes - Sean McDermott takes the blame for that. He ran the 2017 draft. He didn't draft him away for peanuts though. It was pretty much BANG on the Jimmy Johnson chart value and the Bills actually won the trade (to the value of a 4th round pick) by the Rich Hill chart. You can think they could have got more if you want. Maybe they could. But they didn't give it away for peanuts.
Yeah, so I guess that in 2022 when the Bills gave up a 4th round pick to move up two spots for Kaiir Elam, this trade too was orchestrated by Beane. After all, the fact that McDermott was a defensive back in college and a former assistant secondary coach played no part in this glorious trade, or the one which handed the Chiefs Mahomes and numerous Super Bowl wins. He was olly too willing to let Beane, a communications major in college, put his player expertise to work.
Gotcha.
I will however concede the fact that Beane being a communications major does help him at his job. He is able to clearly ask McDermott, "who should we draft," and clearly respond, "yes sir."
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On 6/26/2025 at 10:11 AM, BADOLBILZ said:
Beane himself went from fetching coffee to basically handling anything tech related in Carolina to becoming the GM in Buffalo. He kinda' bypassed the whole road scout thing and might have been the only one in the office who was even using PFF data.
If this is the case (which I certainly do not doubt), why would anyone be willing to believe that he has the final, or even an equal say to McDermott wrt the draft? I really wish I could understand this.
On 6/27/2025 at 10:29 AM, BADOLBILZ said:Yeah @GunnerBill answered that. The Panthers realized after the draft that the Bills had their draft board and that McDermott was using it like his own. Which meant he had a good idea when he needed to move up ahead of them to get those players for he and Beane's operation.
So who takes the blame for trading away Mahomes for peanuts and drafting a corner?
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5 hours ago, Process said:
If sportsbooks want to run ads fine, I just hate how much gambling has become a part of broadcasts. I don't care to hear what parlay Terry Bradshaw has cooked up in the pregame show, or for the announcers to give me the updated live odds throughout the game.
Many, many years ago, Jimmy The Greek (a supposed expert) used to give out picks before NFL games. Seriously, he probably guessed wrong on 75% of his selections. People could have made a ton of money betting against him.
I wonder if there is money to be made betting against Bradshaw and other announcers. If they know who has the best chance to win, I strongly doubt that they would share it with the public and cause the odds to perhaps change.
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When the pain of love surrounds you
And the world may be unkind
I'll put my lovin' arms around you
Take you far from this place and timeBecause you and I've been in love too long
To worry 'bout tomorrow
Here's a place where we both belong
I know you're the only woman that I'm dreamin' of
You're the only woman that I really love -
"Son," she said, "have I got a little story for you
What you thought was your daddy was nothing but a…
While you were sitting home alone at age thirteen
Your real daddy was dyin'
Sorry you didn't see him, but I'm glad we talked"
Oh, I, oh, I'm still alive
Hey, I, oh, I'm still alive
Hey, I, oh, I'm still alive
Hey, oh, oh-oh -
That's an easy one. He would ask Marv Levy what to do, and Marv would tell him to focus on the secondary, running backs, and special teams.
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If you go down to Deep Elem put your money in your shoes
The women in Deep Elem give you the deep elem blues
Oh, sweet mama, your daddy's got them Deep Elem blues
Oh, sweet mama, your daddy's got them Deep Elem blues
Once I knew a preacher, preached the Bible through-and-through
Went down to Deep Elem, now his preachin' days are through
Oh sweet mama, your daddy's got them Deep Elem blues
Oh sweet mama, your daddy's got them Deep Elem blues -
This, along with "Black" by Pearl Jam.
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As those who have seen my posts over the decades, it is well known that right or wrong, I'm not fond of allocating our best draft resources to the secondary. That said, when Jairus Byrd came to town, he lit it up! He was picking off passes one after the other. I thought, "maybe I'm wrong. This guy is great!"
Well, at a tailgate at RWS, I mentioned my views on Byrd to @BADOLBILZ. He told me that Byrd was good but far from great. He said that many of his picks were caused by lucky deflections and not to expect this kind of production. I confess to being just a bit skeptical (if not slightly depressed) lol.
Well, while he was never a bad player imo, he was far from great. His production rapidly fell off and my reluctance to drafting secondary early was fully restored.
👍🏈
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*I heard it was you
Talking 'bout a world where all is free
It just couldn't be
And only a fool would say thatThe man in the street, dragging his feet
Don't wanna hear the bad news
Imagine your face, there is his place
Standing inside his brown shoes*A song written to John Lennon by Donald Fagen
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1) Dion Dawkins
2) Spencer Brown
For decades I watched our QBs get consistently beaten and bloodied while folks such as Levy and Jauron focused on running backs (with no blocking) and the secondary. The OL is the reason that Josh is able to do his job and the team wins football games.
8 hours ago, BillsFooteball said:Tre white now that he’s back! Talent wise favorite is Milano or Spencer brown
Are we sure he will make the team?
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Life, Life
Past the clouds
You don't have to come down
Life, Life
Tell it like it is
You don't have to die before you live -
Well I, married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life
Run me, out in the cold rain and snow
Rain and snow, run me,out in the cold rain and snow
Well she's coming down the stairs, combin' back her yellow hair
And I, ain't goin be treated this ol' way
Well she went up to her room, where she sang her faithful tune
Well I'm, goin where those chilly winds don't blow -
I feel it's time we should make up baby
I feel it's time for us to get back together
And make the best of things, oh, baby, when we're together
Whether or never
Lyrical Response
in Off the Wall
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I used to get mad at my school (Now I can't complain)
The teachers who taught me weren't cool (Now I can't complain)
Holding me down
Turning me 'round
Filling me up with your rules
I've got to admit it's getting better (Better)
A little better all the time (It can't get no worse)
I have to admit it's getting better (Better)
It's getting better, since you've been mine