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Sometimes, when I think something is funny, I throw it out there. Sometimes it’s not. To be candid, having communicated with you in the past, I’m surprised at your reaction to my post. That’s on me though, and I apologize for that. As to your question, I don’t know everyone in the world, so it’s impossible for me to answer.

I suspect the insurrection instructions from Trump to the Proud Boys were hidden in the anonymous Chinese Balloons that maybe temporarily floated into Texas and South Virginia when Trump was in office. (Or, the temporary Chinese Balloons that maybe anonymously floated into Texas and South Virginia if that makes more sense.) It’s the only thing that makes sense at this point, what with rumors circulating that side deals were cut between Liz Chains and the rest of the Committee to shield individuals that were co-conspirators but were part of a really cool congressional book club/bunco group. Thanks again to @ChiGoose for sharing concerns/rumors about the protected class.

I have no idea whether this is a big deal, a little deal or somewhere in the middle, but it’s a good idea to remember that in September, 2001, the humble box cutter helped to change the world. What I do know is we’ll never know the full story here.

We’ll have to wait and see on this poor lady in NJ. I would have to say in retrospect that Tibsy was really just posting news reports when he initially started the Pelosi thread. Of course, it took him less than 5 posts to offer this gem: Tiberius Posted October 28, 2022 No, he was probably a balloon head red state opioid zombie who worshipped Trump

But entirely and completely predictable. Somewhere along the line I came to realize the government is just another corporate enterprise, acting on its own behalf and for the benefit of the members it serves. The challenge is it operates by rules it sets, and there is precious little external pressure to do things the right way consistently. The reality seems to be in spite of all the chitter chatter on classified information, there are people above the law who do as they see fit. That’s not to say the government isn’t responsible for some amazing accomplishments. We live in a world where progress on issues is made everyday, and in a county that is the envy or the world. Our politicians politicize, trying to keep us at each others throats because peace and tranquility are not necessarily great for business. We see claims of illegitimate elections from the same people complaining that claims of illegitimate elections threaten our very way of life. My humble opinion is that if you want to know the number of leaders/former leaders who would get dinged on a search for classified documents of their properties, the number approaches 100%. It likely always has. It’s also why, in spite of our disagreement in the Trump raid, it’s quite easy to see it was a political raid designed for maximum visual effect. There was always a non-armed raid option.

It’s ok to take the hit once in a while. If you said they would release the transcripts and didn’t, just acknowledge it and move on. I believe you also suggested that there wasn’t any concern of widespread removal of classified documents by political leaders when I raised the point that it’s probably fairly common, and now we have a new phrase that details Trump, Biden, Pence, Clinton etc.

It’s time to put some fresh eyes on it. I don’t know what the commentators problem with transparency is, but let’s be honest— the only time anyone in government and the media worries about the $6m is when the other guy spends it.

Putting the phrase in quotes doesn’t make it an accurate statement given the facts surrounding the death of his son. I believe he believes, or at least believed on that particular day that his son lost his life in Iraq. I believe he believes exposure to burn pits lead directly to his son’s death, or at least there was a strong possibility of it. The slip up and confusion makes perfect sense when the facts are pieced together. I believe there was a time he would have been able to clearly state his feelings on the relationship between Iraq, burn pits and his son’s subsequent battle with cancer. I believe at that time, you would not need to add quotation marks to make your comments appear legitimate, nor would you have had to pull up a Newsweek article confirming that his son didn’t actually lose his life in Iraq, but that Joe thought he did. We know he thought he did, he’s the one who said it, and that’s the whole point. It’s a sad thing, but part of the aging process for some people.

I got that part. It’s propaganda-free, Putin TV. It seem to fall into your “they are less liarly liars” category. 🤣 We can add that to the list of issues our friends on the left don’t really like to talk about. It’s quite lengthy, that list.

I think you're struggling with a perception issue as it relates to my thoughts on Carlson v those you refer to as "all journalists". First, TC isn't a journalist, he's a talk show host. My expectations in that realm, be it TC, Rachel Maddow, any number of PBS hosts and/or radio personalities, isn't all that high. I don't expect much, don't listen much, don't really care all that much. There was a time when I listened more, but it all sorta seems pointless to me these days. On the other hand, journalists--supposedly fiercely independent seekers or truth---I expect they'll run a fair game and call things straight, or did before I realized they simply cannot be trusted to do that. I think most have become activists for a cause, relying on the age-old adage that democracy dies in darkness. Simply put...there are too many miscues, too much circular reporting, too much deciding on what news should be shared v what should be kept from view, and a whole dose of reporting from sources deep within and highly placed anonymous sourcing that turns out to be flatly and irrefutably wrong. As for being being disingenuous, brother, you're linking Russian State TV as a credible source of information. I can't keep up with you chicken hawks...Putin is controlling Trump, Trump is in Putin's pocket, Putin waited to launch his invasion of Ukraine under Biden because Trump was once President, and now "Gee Look Putin TV speaks The Truth!". Meanwhile, you employ the strategy that your liars are better than my liars when it comes to politicians and democrats. That's fine, it just reveals that politically, you're pretty much full of &^%$. You want what you want, ignore the warts that come along with getting what you want---and your bias--known or unknown---drives you to hypocrisy. It happens. On at least one day, he thought his son died in Iraq. That's a pretty big miss, and the sort of thing usually associated with dementia or Alzheimers. While I'm no fan of Biden, that's a pretty sad thing to see happen to a man.

The effectiveness of (sometimes) false narratives are why he’s paid so well to do what he does. There is precious little purely truthful reporting in the world, and it’s up to each individual to weed through it. It’s the way it always has been. As for stolen elections, it helps to be pragmatic. There are other threads for the deep dive into American politics, but after decades of allegations of voter suppression, racism when the subject of voter ID is raised, appeals to the SC over hanging/dimpled chads, allegations of war for oil that suddenly disappear after an election, and literal false claims about Trump being elected illegitimately/elected in a coup/treason afoot, it really seems odd to focus on a TV talk show host that the overwhelming majority of Americans do not watch. As I’ve said before, there’s likely no “Stop the Steal” appealing to emotional R voters if “Russia” wasn’t so gosh darn effective at appealing to emotional D voters.

In fairness, though, you’re linking to Russian State television as a reliable source of data, and I haven’t seen one person defending TC as an unimpeachable purveyor of truth. That begs the question—what’s your personal standard on comments about the truth? What is it that compels you to comment specifically about TC, v politicians who lie or craft false narratives to influence others? I don’t watch TC, and recognize the bombastic nature of his program. I personally don’t see a big difference between what he does, and some of MSM outlets or networks news. You have to weed through the language used, consider the agenda, and consider what info might have been left out to shade the story. Much ado about nothing, really.

Or if she had engaged and conspired with a rogue foreign national to spread disinformation about Trump and his campaign in an attempt to influence the outcome of the election. 🤔

Material slippage. Note slippage. Handwriting slippage. All perfectly normal.

It seems like an awful heavy lift to take limited information and speculate as to the potential criminal activity of another, especially given the complicating factor that Washington, DC is like no other place on earth. Who knows what complaints may have been lodged against Biden previously, who might be squeezing him to step forward, or what complicating factors might enter into this? It's especially difficult to project if you are a person who follows normal societal rules, pay taxes on time, puts in an honest day's work and avoids HR issues and the appearance of impropriety, that sort of thing. What we know is that Joe Biden isn't that guy--he says horribly inappropriate things, has been credibly accused of assault and groping, worked the Ukranian's over when his son had deep ties to the government, and seems to like getting a piece of the actions when folks use his name for their gain. The bigger question is why a guy would consistently and regularly completely disregard the laws of the land and tenets of common sense to treat national security issues like a half-used can of Turtle Wax. To see it happen over several decades, presumably with different administrative/legal staff over the years, certainly leads to the conclusion that he simply didn't think the rules that he bloviated about applied to him.

The problem is when you dig a bit deeper than what the conventional wisdom suggests that “everyone knows this!”, it exposes one to the reality that they may have been manipulated or duped. It’s tough to admit that. In this case, “everyone knows” the Russians wanted Trump and Trump worked with them, and people think they came to that conclusion on their own. Meanwhile, Clinton/DNC conspires with a foreign agent to spread information that directly impacts the election and it doesn’t bother them in the least. IMO, hard-hitting factual political journalism probably never truly existed. There’s likely alway been an element of tilting the scale one way or the other, and that’s before we even deal with the reality that the free press is actually a corporate press often answering to shareholders, managers, owners and advertisers looking to shade things a certain way. One thing is certain—if you went back to 2016 and said “Looking forward, in the next 7 years, the govt will spy on citizens, unmask citizens, violate FISA protocol, send heavily armed officers to raid the homes of political rivals, spend 4 years messing around with a preposterous story about Russians, and have supporters believe tales of slippage when speaking about their leaders are illegally secreting away classified/top secret documents that they literally just declared was a threat to national security”….the tolerant and forward thinking left would have declared Trump would be behind it all. It’s not so much a slow slide to these folks losing sense of ethical and moral guidelines moving toward authoritarian rule as it is they dropped them completely off a cliff.

Footage of Chuck Schumer finding out Schiff was removed from committee...

In the calm light of day, the Steele dossier was pure propaganda, an elaborate tale with roots directly to the DNC and Clinton. Those is dem leadership, the IC, and media members with sources deep within knew this. Mueller would have known this early on. It was allowed to hang around because people who thought “Trump sucked” wanted it to be true, like virtually everything else associated with the Russia story. It helped shape the overall narrative, as did comments like those from Adam Schiff and his role as chief propagandist of the party. As you said earlier, there aren’t really any penalties for lying on tv, and people can be incredibly gullible. We simply need to add it to the scrap heap of other such stories and recognize people believe such stories because they want it to be true. That’s why they work, the latest of which was “Trump had classified info first time evaaahhhh…” when all we really have to do is look in garages and storage boxes of former officials.

If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got.

Real nice man, I click on the link knowing there has to be a naked woman chart and all I get is some Van Gogh Playboy mash up. You stink.

Nothing, nothing at all. There was no argument, I just wondered what your thoughts were on the video that was the premise for the thread. Have a great day Tibsy!

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I’m uncertain as to what You Tubes terms of service are, it’s weird that it would be taken down. There’s nothing all that crazy about it, a guy allegedly from Pfizer talking about virus and profit. Here’s a link to the video. https://www.projectveritas.com/news/pfizer-executive-mutate-covid-via-directed-evolution-for-company-to-continue/

It is the journey that makes us men.

What are your thoughts on the video? I’m old school, and it seems to me the story is important one way or the other. COVID changed the world overnight. If it’s a hoax video, let’s hear about that. If it’s legit let’s explore it. As of last night seemed the major media outlets were disinterested. Newsweek ran a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng story and came to the conclusion it could not yet be verified.