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But is it the most significant effect? Or it’s he most significant threat the health concerns of the public? And what are the “adverse consequences” of which you speak?

I think the point of the song was that poor kids went to Vietnam and died, but the rich, privileged kids generally stayed home. I wouldn’t take the lyrics too literally.

Truth be told we don’t know whether the Trump campaign has paid its ASCAP/BMI fees. It probably has. But given the cash crunch it’s possible that was thrown overboard with the TV buys. Who knows. Bottom line: utterly ironic choice of song here.

And here’s the flaw in your approach. What’s killing businesses? Aside from movie theaters and like entertainment venues, it’s not government regulations. It’s the lack of consumer confidence. Gyms are not barring people at the door because of limited capacity. Restaurants don’t have wait lines where I live. It’s one thing to open the doors, it’s another thing to get people to want to pass through the doors. And that consumer confidence will not come back until we get the virus under control. Bottom line.

Nobody disagrees that “snuffing” is bad. But the best way to get things back to normal is to restore consumer confidence. Here’s the deal. You and I will disagree on the next point: Trump is full of ***** and not to be trusted on anything, and is especially untrustworthy on the virus issue. So I have no faith in whatever information is coming out of Washington with respect to testing, vax progress, etc. Here’s where we can start to agree again. Irrespective of whether one disagrees with the former view, and Irrespective of whether one can draw confidence from what comes out of DC, this latter point remains. Absent belief of consumers that they can return to “normal” safely, they’re not going to venture out and they’re not going to spend their money. And the longer this lasts, the less money we will have circulating throughout the economy and the less discretionary cash we will have that will be able to be spent. One (non-comprehensive and imperfect) way to increase confidence is to have everyone show a little courtesy to one another and wear the mask. Compliance around here is terrible, and it’s a significant reason I won’t take the kids to a restaurant, or to the zoo, or pretty much anywhere else we’ll incur a meaningful risk of running into an inconsiderate dope who might get them sick. All of these issues are intertwined, and I just don’t see how we fix the mess that has become the economy until we get the virus under control. We can all agree that the catalyst for the economic downturn and malaise of the last six months is the virus. So the best way to solve the problems? Put the petty fights about masks, hydroxychloroquine, the rush to the vax, and all of the related issues behind, wear the masks, work together, and get this thing done.

It’s all part of the cosmic joke that is the Trump presidency. The saddest part is that the people that he seems to hate the most are the ones who support him most ardently.

Hoax, but thank you for sharing. Your imagination is impressive. Unfortunately I didn’t see any rebuttal of your prior point that Donald Trump unleashed biological warfare on the world. It’s pretty sad that you support a guy who you believe unleashed biological warfare!

So Trump unleashed biological warfare on the world after learning of the strength and danger of COVID-19 and then despicably failing to do anything about it? I haven’t even gone that far in condemning his inaction with respect to the pandemic. But if you think Trump “unleashed biological warfare” in trying to address the virus principally with magic and Lysol, then I guess I’ll have to agree with you. For once.

So no rule #2 evidence? I’ll take that as your admission that you are not a legitimate member of this forum.

I hate to say it, but the risk isn’t worth the reward right now. We’ve been disciplined for nearly six months, and I’m not going to crack when we’re probably no more than six months away from some sort of resolution, be it a vaccine or virus burnout after a fall resurgence.

Wow. Not what I was thinking about at all. Even for a conservative you have a pretty sick mind. Let’s stay on topic: are you a legitimate member of this forum? I have some questions about that, and I’d like a little rule #2 evidence to support that claim.

I don’t doubt that this is true. But it returns us to the point that to get the economy back to normal, we need not only to reopen, but to reinstall consumer confidence. Opening doors is meaningless unless and until consumers have a sense of health security in the places they formerly patronized. Personally, living in Orchard Park, I have no intention of going to any local restaurant anytime soon. I love the guys at the Byrd House. I really do. And I’ll buy gift certificates for friends from that restaurant. But I am not eating at any of these places not because of what they’re doing or not doing, but because of the behavior of their patrons. I run down that road and I see little to no mask compliance at any establishment (aside from Spot Coffee) on a weekend night. That, of course, gets us back to the point that if we all just sucked it up and wore a 50-cent mask in public, we probably would be in a much, much better spot right now.

Rule #2, please.

My body, my choice. Or not.

Substitute “refuse to endorse or support” for “fight against” and it’s much different question.

Another day without a denial from Kelly. Hmm ...

it is what it is. That pretty much says it all. Sadly.

Hmmm ... how do we define legitimate member? I have some doubts about your legitimate member status, for what it’s worth. Please advise.

I’m gonna rule #2 the last sentence fragment. Thank you.

I gotta Rule #2 this one.

Hmmm. Looks like a rule #1violation there, sir. Also, the guys who spells “fox” with two letters x probably shouldn’t throw the first stone with respect to a typo.

Don’t get all snowflake on us!

If you want to get technical Trump didn’t win a majority of votes, or even the most votes, in the 2916 general election. So there’s that.

Rule #2, please.

I’m gonna have to Rule #2 the second fragment of that sentence. Thank you.