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I won’t argue with you. I too would like to know where we stand on yesterday’s calls to round up Democrats. I wonder if we’ll hear calls to round up gamers, or Mormons, or gun. culturalists knowing what we know now. Probably not. Not that we should. Point is that all of those frothy people, as you noted, need to chill.

So where are you on yesterday’s calls to round up democrats?

Does it matter? He’s apparently a lone wolf. It’s not like the Mormons shot Kirk. There’s crazies on both sides and both fringes, and they’ve each done wrong. It’s gotta stop.

It’s hard to rationalize that with Clay Higgins today and trying to revoke visas for peaceful protestors,

It’s both. From the five minutes I spent looking into the guy, it seems he has some pretty difficult things to say about minorities. And his approach is schlock. Prove me wrong is bogus. How about proving himself right in the first instance without summarily awarding validity to himself. It seems like what is behind the gates is not very good.

I was just thinking about that. I didn’t agree with Kirk’s views, but that’s neither here nor there. His death leaves a void that could be filled by someone similar, or by somebody extreme/more extreme, depending on one’s perspective. That might help moderate the country, or it might take it down a really bad path. I assume this is Andrew Tate, who I understand to be a misogynist and bad human. Is that the thumbnail?

Well I can see the civility already fading away. Back to commie this and commie that. And we wonder why we can’t have dialogue in this country anymore.

Life in prison is worse than the death penalty. Me too. Not my place.

Put a finger on it.

Looks like the other side consisted of video game weirdos here. Whatever side that is.

Others rush to judgment. Ahem.

You don’t know one way or the other. Rush to judgment.

From what little I know the shell casings relate to some online video game. So maybe there was a rush to judgment on the Antifa thing.

Again, how do you know? You’re rushing to judgment because you want something to be true. Really? How? Seems early for that, no?

He grew up in a Trump household from what little I’ve seen. Again, the paradox. Not to mention that you project his actions to an entire “side.” By that logic you’re culpable for Minnesota, Paul Pelosi, Josh Shapiro, J6, etc. (not that I think you are;. Just making the point.)

Who is they? And where did this MSM call trump hitler? Seems to me the toxicity is more on Twitter and like platforms.

Before we pin this on a large group of people, how do we know he wasn’t pushed to his crime by growing up in a “Trump” household and rebelling against the BS of that side?

Seems like conservatives are pretty invested in this guy from what I read here. I’m a moderate — a liberal to people here — and I couldn’t have cared less about him until he was murdered. His shtick was vapid - prove me wrong, based on the assumption I’m right in the first instance. Maybe I’m in the minority. Or maybe a lot of the jerks celebrating his death are bots. Ultimately it doesn’t matter because it’s perception that counts. It’s all so sad.

So now it’s the MSM’s fault? How about this. The rhetoric is awful everywhere. The kid probably was poisoned, but that’s neither here nor there. He still wasn’t strong enough or raised right or whatever to recognize that we don’t shoot people for having an opinion.

I don’t agree with the DP at all. And I don’t think there should be a fast lane. But if there is … something like Thai probably fits the bill. Seems like a clean case.

How do you know these people are liberals?

I don’t disagree with a lot of what you said. I point this out to illustrate the paradox of the situation. The family appears to be LE, and probably were/are Trump supporters based on what I saw on the news. This doesn’t mean it’s a “MAGA” slaying, or that the “left” shouldn’t own its lack of empathy for Kirk and his family, not to mention its vitriol preceding this slaying. (MAGA is just as guilty of the vitriol.) The rudimentary points are that we’re a divided country with a-holes on both sides, that we all shouldn’t be so quick to judge, and that we all should have a little more respect and empathy for one another.

But again, where is this Antifa boogeyman? If it’s out there, somebody should do something about it.

I don’t know whether he did. I seem to recall him insulting Tim Walz. Point is, a good leader treats all of this crap equally and doesn’t distinguish by party affiliation if the victim or perp. America needs a leader with the guts to tell the truth and to say it’s all BS - J6, this, Minnesota, Steve Scalise, whatever, and move this country forward. I disagree. Words matter. I do not disagree that Patel is LE.

Look, I think trump is an abomination. But that statement is ridiculous. Where do you get this stuff from? And, if true, what’s the explanation for not doing anything about it?