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In 2006 I hiked the Paria all the way into the confluence with Buckskin Gulch. 20 miles roundtrip as a day hike. Was beautiful...went up the Buckskin a couple miles too. Did Canyonlands the year before that. Island in the Sky is pretty impressive! I need to get into the Adirondacks more...so close and hardly ever go out there; I'm in Syracuse. A quiet lake3 to float around on sounds pretty damn good about now.

Southern Utah is my favorite place I have ever visited. Wish I knew about Goblin last time I was out there. Nothing better than just touring around and stumbling onto something amazing like Goblin Valley. hope you took pics! The coolest place I visited in southern Utah was the Wave. Took me two days to win the lottery and get one of the 20 passes they give out each morning. Simply amazing. The Wave Sounds like that Econoline has some good trips on it!

Two years ago we did a Route 66 trip and came home through Colorado. Independence Pass heading east toward Denver was amazing...12,000 feet. This past year, we did a northern route through the Dakotas (not Fanning) and went to Yellowstone. Beartooth Pass drops into the park from the northeast and is stunning. That's around 11,000 feet. This country has some amazing landscapes. Note to trolls: please do not criticize my choice of vacation spots and point out their weaknesses.

Jeff Nixon was drafted in 4th round in 1979 by the Bills. Robb Riddick was a pretty good utility back for the Bills...good on goal line situations and not bad as a receiver. Not a bust at all in my opinion. Bill Enyart was a 2nd round bust (1969)!

Mike: I give you credit for hanging in there and trying to make your case. For me, the thing I find annoying is the way you, and several others, make the same points repeatedly across many different threads, even though those points (about the Bills weaknesses) are not even part of the thread topic. I think, because it is a "fan board" after all, that you have to expect the "optimists" to make their points repeatedly because that's generally what we're here for - to celebrate our Bills and support them, not tear them down - especially this time of year when hope springs eternal! And being a fan is all about passion, not necessarily straight facts, common sense, etc. Fan is short for fanatic, after all! Even more annoying and offensive is the habit of you and many other posters of reprimanding people for their opinions and resorting to personal attacks. "Think before you speak", "I find your viewpoint lame", "idiot", "moron", etc (those aren't all associated with you...for example, try milehilou for the derogatory remarks). That stuff goes both ways - people on both sides of the optimist/pessimist roles resort to those derogatory remarks. But just because someone expresses an opinion doesn't mean it has to be challenged and insulted, and that happens all too often here. And I think we have all noticed your penchant for criticizing other people's opinions. I think most reasonable people will respect a contradictory (pessimistic) opinion if it is made with intelligence and class, and is not continued to be hammered home after being made in a couple different threads.

Shaw was tied for 3rd in yards per attempt and was tied for 6th in yards per completion (tied with the Mad Bomber no less!) Interesting look at the stats back in the day.... 1970 QB ratings

Ha! I toured x-country in a 1968 VW van outfitted as a camper when I was 19 back in 1978. It wouldn't turn over once it got heated up so we ended up push starting it across the country. We thought it had 46,000 miles when we bought it - later found out it was 146,000. Past two years did cross-country in my buddy's 2005 Corvette convertible. Didn't push start it once! Nice ride!

Nevertheless it is a fact he was ROY. QB numbers, especially INTs were different back then.

I think Dennis Shaw was Rookie of the Year after the 1970 season. He just couldn't beat the rush and stop throwing INTs, but we got some trade value when he was traded to St Louis, for none other than Ahmad Rashad!

Ha....even I (well maybe mostly I) am kept from those like they are national security secrets. Their worst dream is that I'd get access to their Facebook pages! I'll keep you posted though

Now that my three daughters are in their early 20s.....no. I thought it was bad when they were in puberty (THAT was nuts)...but seeing how guys react around my girls now is worse!

You really think some of those guys date? I hadn't thought about that possibility.....

A Classic! Thanks for playing. This had me spitting my coffee this morning! Well done.

You got a point there, and I've tried to keep things in better perspective over the last 15 years (had no choice!). Before that I literally lived and died with the Bills fortunes. But the reason for that, and maybe for other members of this board, is because my life has had many ties to the Bills that bound me to family and friends. My father passed when I was 16, so many fond memories of him are tied to going to Bills games. Back then there were no televised home games, so he loaded the family into the Impala and drove us around the countryside while we listened to the game on the radio. I'll never forget hearing the Bills pick off Joe Willie 5 times for their only win of the 1968 season. I have had season tickets with a good friend and also my nephew, and that Bills connection created a special, close bond that might never have otherwise existed. My aunt and uncle took me to the 1974 opener against the Raiders when we made a miracle comeback. I was sitting in the upper deck with my brother when the Bills won 51-3 to go to their first Super Bowl. I went with my sister (and several others) to the last Super Bowl in Atlanta, and the travel agency couldn't come through with tickets to the game. My buddy and I were able to scalp tickets, and I'll always remember saying goodbye to my sister as I went into the stadium without her.....both of us in tears. Kind of maudlin memories, but those are the poignant moments that have made this more than "just a game", or "just a team" for me. For me anyway, it explains why I have a passion for the Bills that doesn't get spoiled, even when they are down. One of my favorite seasons is 1968. They were 1-12-1. But it was the first year I followed them on my own, not just because my father liked them. And so it goes....(apologies for the long post).

This is an interesting article in that a few topics relate to things discussed at length on this board - namely how different teams approach training camp, and how the players feel about stadiums, crowds and other players. 3 guys from the Cuse

Amazing, huh? And then he bitches ME out for having low expectations. Wow. I did spare him the following: "Where's my spunk? Why, it's right there.......dripping off your chin"

Took you less than 15 minutes to make my last point for me!

Well, at least mpl spared you the "think before you speak!" reprimand. I like your positive attitude BillsFanInLV. I've been following the Bills since 1967. I went to a Super Bowl with them and have had season tickets for many years, even though I'm living in Syracuse. I have had my heart torn out more times than I can remember, but every year I am optimistic and look forward to opening day. I don't have any expectations for this team - I just hope they will be competitive and give us a memorable win or two. Anything more than that and I'll be an even happier camper. I see the weaknesses in the team but choose to not belabor them or belittle others who have their own opinion. But it is fun to see posters make jackasses out of themselves now and then....it passes the offseason for me in a humorous way!

Organic spring greens, with fresh pepper, cucumber, celery and carrots drizzled with homemade creamy balsamic dressing. Couple slices of Wegman's Rosemary with Olive Oil and Sea Salt bread.

My condolences....40 years together is amazing. May God bless you both.

Because nowadays there are too many people that have the following attitude (no disrespect intended against this poster, but just pointing out this attitude is more prevalent than in 1967): " So yesterday I met some friends at my local bar, and there is a father there with his young daughter sitting on a barstool at the bar. WTF? A child never belongs at a bar! A bar should be a place where you can drop F-bombs, tell sordid stories, hook up with a cutie, discuss whatever topic you want no matter how inappropriate, etc- and not have to worry about a child sitting next to you. Take your kids to chucky cheese, not a bar! "

Went to the last Super Bowl in Atlanta after the 1994 season. Took a charter through Small World Travel. They couldn't get game tickets at last minute and there was a huge uproar. We decided to go down anyway and try to scalp. The morning of the game, we met Tom Jackson in the ESPN hotel where they were broadcasting. Then we ended up sneaking past the guards into the lower levels of the hotel where some Chrysler dealers were getting their tickets. We scalped a pair for $1,000 each...paid in $20s. On the flight home we all decided to file a class action lawsuit against Small World. When we got off the plane, all the local stations were there and wanted to talk about the ticket fiasco. We weren't in the mood to talk, but when Gary Tuchman from CNN approached us, we talked. My buddy and I were part of a really funny piece they did comparing the first and second halves of the game. Still have the broadcast video...its hilarious. Features a couple fat guys in their underwear running thru the snow into a hot tub, and a bunch of drunks in a bar the next morning crying in their beer....literally. Sad situation, but definitely coolest thing I've done regarding the Bills! And we got a few hundred back before Small World went under....bastards.

Ha! Back in the day (1967-ish), my old man used to take me to Stockman's Tavern on Transit Road and he'd have the bartender put the TV on Channel 12 out of Erie, PA - trying to watch the Bills homes games through staticy snow. I drank orange pop and he did shots and beers. Never got out of control or had bad things happen. Still a nice memory! It was a different time. Not sure I'd do it today with my kid....glad I'm too old to worry about it! And food? Oh God...my mother used to make salmon patties pan fried in butter...and liver and onions....and potato pancakes, all for dinner. Still like liver and onions, and love potato pancakes, but salmon patties....not so much! She wasn't the greatest cook, but she was an awesome Mom. I miss them both!

Their new CD Ooh La La is available for listening on their website CTD website It's Beautiful was nice the instant I heard it; the rest.....well, it will be another entry for this thread topic!

Yeah, "Crazy Joe Moon" definitely took some time for me to "get". It's the only GLB CD I have.