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Well, for the record Bill Clinton was dubbed our first black President, so that explains his getting over 80%...

For the record, African American vote percentages from several past elections: 1984 Walter Mondale 90% // Ronald Reagan 9% 1988 Michael Dukakis 90% // George H.W. Bush 10% 1992 Bill Clinton 83% // George H.W. Bush 10% 1996 Bill Clinton 84% // Bob Dole 12% 2000 Al Gore 90% // George W. Bush 9% Hell Al Gore got 90% of the black vote and he's about the whitest robot guy out there! So Obama didn't get 93% of the black vote because he's black, he got it because he's a Democrat, which is the point several people were making. The question you should be asking is why do Republicans policies make blacks, Latinos, women, gays and, well, anyone that's not an older white guy, want to vote for the Dems?

But that first pass SHOULD have been caught by Chandler for a 1st down. After that who knows what Chan would have called... Whatever, he dropped it, yes they probably should have run on 2nd, but they didn't Now you're in 3rd and long - you're certainly not going to run here. Everyone is harping on this series, but if Chandler makes the catch, who knows what plays are called going forward.

Add our inability (or refusal) to get the run game going and I'm with ya! That Wildcat has to go for sure - they KNOW it's a run... Everyone in the Shoutbox was freaking over the three passing plays in a row to start the second half. If Chandler catches that first one, the point is moot. Granted, they could / should have run on second down, but had we run on third and 10, people would have still freaked!

Or he's wincing. But that's not as fun...

Didn't this approval happen in September? http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/8436735/los-angeles-city-council-approves-plan-downtown-nfl-stadium What DID happen today is that they settled a lawsuit that was potentially holding up the development (everyone needs to get their cut): http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stadium-settlement-20121102,0,2320349.story But as has been said, they still need to get a team to build the stadium. Plus the Anschutz Entertainment Group is now up for sale, so the new owner would have to support the project: espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/nfl/post/_/id/857/potential-aeg-sale-raises-questions And some more on the intricacies of the deal (this one from April): http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/7772949/construction-proposed-football-stadium-los-angeles-begin-march-2013 Anyway you look at it, it's NOT a done deal... Sounds like we can know what's next as early as Feb!

I've done the RV lot for the past two home openers - first let me say, great decision, you're going to have a BLAST! I always find the night before the game to be almost as fun as Sunday; we've eaten a lot of great food and drank a lot of cheap beer with with a lot of awesome new friends... For the Sunday games the lot opens at 8am on Saturday, so I would guess you'll be looking at 8am on Wed for a Thurs game. This year the lot did fill up by about noon (though it was no where near packed, parking was sort of willy-nilly), but it didn't fill up until gameday last year. With our record at this point, you should be ok with Wed night but I would recommend going during daylight, setting up camp, starting a fire and meeting your Bills family. A trip to the Bills store is recommended the day before too, it's not packed and players always seem to swing through there the day before the game. I'm not sure about the van, but if you claim you're "camping" in it and pay the $50, you should be fine. I had my Jeep, but had to park it in the general lot. On Saturday I was able to dip out, make a trip the airport and Premiere and get back in. But on Sunday there was no driving out. Like the crew said though, there's a store within walking distance. You can use whatever grill, smoker, fire pit or burn barrel you like! There's just the right amount of anarchy in the RV lot... Be sure to stop by Hammer's Lot next door, see the Pinto and say hi to any TBD'ers that may hanging about. Have fun and Go Bills!!

Seriously? The actual quote: "You can play good on ten plays and then on the eleventh play you let [Chris Johnson] break an 80-yard run. The previous ten, no one sees that. The outside, no one sees that. They just see, you give up an 80-yarder. " Do people have NO reading comprehension anymore? Do people even read the articles before they comment?

My pleasure! Someone has to bring the facts to light around here! People on TBD love to talk about a quotes and what they think they mean without posting (or even addressing) the actual freaking quote...

Read into things much? He was just answering a question about his former team... The actual quote from Dareus, FWIW: "I don't know if they could compete with an NFL team, but they're more disciplined than most NFL football teams," Dareus told the Buffalo News. "They'd stick in a game with a few teams. They're just coached real well."

This thread really went sideways quick! I wasn't even sure what the Beacon of Clarity was arguing for or against at one point. At any rate here's the Brandon interview from GR55 if anyone want's to hear what was actually said: http://www.wgr550.com/pages/14664931.php?contentType=4&contentId=1174022 I kind of like the "Fenway / Refub" plan - could work out nicely for a City like Buffalo that can't afford a new stadium...

Finally a thread that suggests getting both Vick and Matt Moore - I'm shocked it took this long...

To me the most telling line is: “Instead of being friends with each other, we need to be more like brothers. Brothers can fight. Brothers tell each other, ‘you gotta pick it up.’ And it’s never against somebody, it’s just to build the team, to make the team better,” While it's great that our team has really good chemistry, sounds like it's a little TOO good. While I want our team to be friends and helping each other along (better than the infamous Bickering Bills) they also need to be willing to call one another out, when its needed. Hopefully Tashard's speech will help everyone hold one another responsible AND will light a fire that desperately needs to be lit...

Let me add the obligatory "Thanks Obama!"

I caught this too - he said Anderson was never a good run defender and was always a 3rd down pass rush specialist. He's good at what he does, just not playing on all downs. Also said he didn't set the edge well. Kelsay may actually be an upgrade. We can only hope.

And we've been cursed ever since...

A few interesting quotes in this Chuck Pollock article: http://www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/article_b01d6682-1203-11e2-8fed-0019bb2963f4.html?two-bills-drive And there was this interesting comment from San Francisco offensive coordinator Greg Roman after Sunday’s game. “They gave us an unscouted (not previously played) look,” he said. “They had never shown that (approach) before. It was a great job by them ... they caught us. “That’s a tough one when you don’t know what’s coming. I’ve got to tip my hat to their coaching staff ... they got us.” So, it would appear that Wannstedt had an effective scheme ... Buffalo was down only 10-3 with a half minute left in the first half. Maybe, just maybe, it’s not the Xs and Os ... could it be the players instead? ________________________ Obviously just because the scheme was unseen, it doesn't make it "effective". But at least we know that Wanny is switching things up rather than calling the same exact D game after game. Let's hope they switch to something better for this weekend! Or at least that the players drink some Mountain Dew and get fired up for the game!!

Amazing how ALL of our good players last year are crappy this year - me thinks there's something more to it than just the players getting "old and slow"...

I agree - people need to look at actions rather than take a four word quote as a sign that he doesn't care... John, since you're a little closer to the team than all of the Internet GMs, just curious if you've heard anything about some strife in the locker room? Have the coaches lost the team? Is Mario a distraction to other players? Is it scheme? Just seems like we have too much talent on the D to have two of the worst games EVER! I mean, suddenly we're sitting here calling Dareus a bust, saying that Kyle Williams is toast this year, that our young corners are terrible and our LB's the worst in the league. I don't understand how we can have (at least from my perspective) added talent to the D and still be this bad! Event the national reporters at training camp we're talking about how good we looked - what the heck happened!? I might have to go back to blaming the Flutie Curse for our woes...

Ralph Is Wasteful!

Freddy seems less than thrilled, per Twitter "WTF??? Released Mooreman??? For What??"

BOOM - this is the truth of the play. That was not a simultaneous catch, therefore the tie shouldn't have gone to the O (if that's even what happened). You knew it was screwed when one guy waived like a touchback and the other called a TD. Joke. How about we take the Tuck Rule and replace the T with an F? Seems about right...

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Welcome to 2012 everyone... And lest you think it's just the D&C, it's all Gannett owned papers: http://www.ibj.com/gannett-to-implement-online-pay-wall/PARAMS/article/32827

Worst. Bills. Team. Ever.