el Tigre

So what are you gonna do if he's wrong? Go over to his house and kick his ass?

I don't think the poster said he definitely wants to sign him,he just thinks he's worth taking a look at. There's a need on this team for a veteran #2 or #3 type reciever on this team,IMO. And what the hell is a "bumb" anyway?

Was a pretty good player before the injuries. If I'm not mistaken I think he has torn his achilles twice. Not sure if you can ever fully recover from that sort of injury.

I know alot of you guys might disagree with me on this but hear me out. Lynch grew up in a real rough environment,the projects in Oakland,from what I've read. When you grow up around that it's almost impossible to quickly separate yourself from it. I was raised in a somewhat similar situation here in South Stockton. Not as rough as Marshawns upbringing in Oakland but somewhat similar. When everyone around you is doing drugs,stealing and getting involved in other illegal activities it warps your perception of what's acceptable behavior. Even if your own home and family is straight and moral it's still tough to live up to the behavioral expectations of those not from a similar environment. Of the guys I hung with in my high school days only a few of us went on to lead productive,"normal" lives. The rest are dead or have been in and out of prison and generally have crappy lives. It takes years to slowly separate yourself from that life,and Marshawns only 22. My feeling on Lynch is that he is basically a good kid who's going thru that process under a microscope. I'm not saying that every thing he's doing is right,only that I think I understand it and I'm rooting for him. I hope that he can find that separation quickly enough that he doesn't ruin his career.

Sounds like me as a youngster. Except it was an old Chevy.

That's right. I picked Cotto to win,but Margaritos power,or maybe it was the horseshoes in his gloves,changed that whole fight. Cotto consistently beat him to the punch in the early going but was a bloody mess by the end.

I'm in Stockton and I have family all thru the Valley,including Lemoore. The difference between Lemoore and other towns at the southern end of the Valley and Stockton is the nighttime temperatures. Stockton sits on the edge of the San Joaquin Delta so every night it cools down. A little farther south and it stays hot all night long in the summer. And you ain't kidding about the fog,it gets real thick at times. Overall tho,the Valley really is a pretty good place to live,no matter what these surveys say.

You've lived in this area?

Margarito didn't look like his usual self in that Mosely fight. Really makes you wonder how long he'd been doing this.

A neighbor of mine works for a big chemical company and they send him to China periodically on buisness. He stays a couple weeks at a time and has told me the workers there are treated almost like slaves. He said alot of the factories there build big empty warehouses next to their facilities to house the workers. Partitions are set up,like cubicles,inside the warehouse and hundreds of familys live in there. Miserable exsistence. That's where so many of our manufacturing jobs have gone.

You damn right!

Watch it buddy. Stockton is a great city. It's the shining jewel of the San Joaquin Valley.

Only during football season.

I have a urinal from War Memorial mounted in my living room.

Russell Shepard looks like he will be a stud in a year or 2.

Rodriguez signed a good looking class for the Wolverines,including 2 highly ranked dual-threat QB's. How'd your favorite team do?

I agree that quaterback play was the single biggest factor in our second half collapse last year. But I do think Trent has talent and may yet be the answer there. I don't see anyone at DE capable of helping this team. We need to add at least 2 players (draft or FA) at DE in hopes of finding a pass rush IMO.

DE,there is just no talent there. Schobel is well past his prime and the rest are back-ups at best.

Niagra Buffaloes sounds better.

I'm probably just less trusting of these pro athletes in general. I'm a big college fan and I had heard of Peters question marks long before he was a Bill. Maybe because of that I'm a little prejudiced against him. I would just be afraid that if we gave him a big extension he would pull the same crap again in a year or 2,and never live up to his potential. He seems like the kind of guy to get a pocket full of money and never have the fire to excel.

I agree with you that 6 mil,with strong disincentives as well as incentives,would be a reasonable number for Peters. The problem is,as the poster you're responding to said,he's allegedly asking for much more than that. That's where the hold out and questions of work ethic/desire going back to his college days become relevant,IMO. Some tigers never change their stripes.

Great points. It's very hard to find effective NFL NT's. Most guys coming out of the draft (like Ted Washington) take several years to develop. For the Tampa 2 to be effective you need your D-line to consistently get pressure on the QB. The Bills just don't have the front 4 to run an effective cover 2.

Woodley played DE at Michigan. He never played LB,and he was a little undersized to play DE in the NFL. He also wasn't as fast as undersized DE's who've had success in the NFL,like say Freeny. Having said all that,he was very productive at Michigan and made lots of plays due to his relentless attitude and hustle.

I'm not making a posterboy out of Lynch,Peters or anybody else. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Read my reply to the poster above. I would like Peters retained and focused as well. Peters lack of focus is what worries me. The way for Peters to get an extension is to show up,work hard and perform well. Consistently.Then he should get an extension.

There have been work ethic and character,or maybe I should say desire,questions about Peters since he was in college. He is a freakish athelete in a huge body that could be a great LT if he decides that he wants to be great. Holding out with 3 years left on your contract because you made your first Pro Bowl,then showing up and playing average at best just adds to those questions. I would want to see more consistency,in performance and attitude,before I would give him a fat extension.