Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I wonder though if non playoff teams that have games within themselves will still play them Week 18 strictly for revenues. They will tell all the players, you can play these games or not, but if you don't it likely will reduce next years salary cap by $X amount. Maybe won't matter if below the minimum agreed to though do wonder if 2020 lost revenues could somehow also affect 2022 cap?

Mason Rudolph; Witness protection!

What are teams allowed to do during that shutdown? Can they continue to practice at their facility? If not then likely will need another 2 weeks to get them back into game shape, something that they may just be getting into now. And once they reconvene, what's going to change to prevent this from happening again? Other than the unauthorized practices, there's nothing to say it didn't start in a way where Tenn did nothing wrong. A players child brought it home from school, etc.

True but at least the Browns are winning. Mayfield Allen and Jackson are the only three from that QB class that are having much of any success. Rosen and Rudolph are pretty much busts and Darnold is on very shaky ground. He likely gets one more shot with a new coach to turn things around before he goes to the bust pile too.

True, but mentally had to deal with all the changes. Do think though with all things considered that would be a very low concern. I do wonder if on Friday when the players were given the day off, did the coaches say lets talk KC!

He'd just pop his Clemson helmet on and be safe from Covid!

OK but 10-5 beats 10-6 so it all evens out. It works both ways so fair. BTW did read an article the other day too that the league is already looking at this method to determine final standings. What's the better solution? Have the Bills play Tenn week 18 while the rest of the playoff teams have a bye? Maybe by then 75% of the league will need make up games, but if the number is that high, then very unlikely it's all one game per team, likely some teams have more than one game to make up.

That's true, think they'd still need some type of league approval though

If this coach never entered the facility, why then did they close it? You'd think they could have figured that out in about 5 minutes.

How if the Bills won 10 out of 15 would be ahead of someone with 10 out of 16. Yes if we played the 16th game and won we could get to 11 wins and maybe that would help us, but just as easily could lose the game and then be tied with the 10-6 team instead of being ahead of them and who knows how the next tie breaker would help or hurt us. It works both ways so it's fair, just less known. But this year that may be the best you can do.

I'm fine with giving Tenn forfeits, but wouldn't reward their opponents with wins. Final standing will just simple be based on win percentage so Bills could play one less game than others. In the NFL one win can take a team in or out of playoffs, change from playing home game to no home game, so can't see the league being comfortable giving a team that much of an advantage. I'm sure the other 30 teams would be screaming, in particular the Steelers.

Kind of amazing, was just looking at the updated 506 maps, this week pretty much every game on TV is terrible, likely the only good one is KC Raiders. The doubleheader game is Cowboys Giants, already told my wife I could grill tonight as didn't care if I miss anything. Even the Sunday and Monday night game aren't very good. Then you look at next week, where do you move the Bills Chiefs as good doubleheader game, good Sunday and Monday night game too at least from a rating perspective. Possibly an early ESPN doubleheader and Fox gets something back in return

But the game isn't at their facility, it's in the stadium. Doubt the team has been in the stadium in two weeks.

But what do teams do during the two weeks? Are they still allowed to go to their facilities and practice? If not then would likely require one more week to get back into game shape again. You often read how every year there's talk about the first few weeks of season, even after normal off-season including pre-season games etc, players aren't completely at 100% for the season opener. If teams are allowed to continue practicing,. then guess OK, but then not all that certain what it accomplishes?

I'm sure even if Pegula wanted to that would be a salary cap hit. Having said that the league could approve them being paid from some source, maybe out of the cookie jar they have for emergencies. Unless I missed something in the last five pages of this thread, the facility is closed so no one can practice and with a positive today, they can't re-open tomorrow or Tuesday either as need two days of clean tests. Believe there's a league rule that teams have to be allowed to practice at a minimum of two days prior to game. On top of that they hadn't been allowed to have a full legal practice until yesterday, so that would have given them four days. To expect a team to go out and play a game after only a couple of practices does not seem very prudent. The issue also is you now don't know who this coach exposed himself too and will another flare up start maybe around Wednesday or Thursday, so then you'd have players who are negative on game day who have the virus now exposing the Bills. Add in 5 days before most see symptoms, they could then play KC on Sunday and test positive on Monday after they've now exposed KC too. Maybe the league will determine he wasn't exposed to anyone yesterday and reopen the facility in the next hour or so, if so then possibly the game could go on, though if I were the Bills, I think I'd now be telling Roger, NO we refuse to play the game as we don't want to be exposed next. If Tenn isn't able to practice today, then can't see how they can play the game.

I stand corrected, all I had heard was the one

Personally I'm happy right now if this game Tuesday is canceled. I'd rather see them play KC Thursday and not have to deal with a short week and all kinds of uncertainty about the Tenn game, plus going into a situation where you don't know if there are still players who could be spreaders.

The facility was closed for around 10 days since the first positive test. Everything was done virtually. What has been reported was one off site workout and there may have been a coach there. Were there more than one gathering possibly, I'd imagine that's what the league is looking into. But to date that's all that's been reported, so unless you're one of the Titan players who was at this workout, don't know how you can say there were multiple workouts?

I'm not all concerned with the #1 seed resting. I'm concerned that say the Bills Titans play week 17 while their opponent the following week in the playoffs has a bye. That gives them a huge advantage. I recall in the four SB years, Bills had a bye 3 of the 4 years which always was a big help. IMO if the Bills were already in the playoff so are just playing Tenn for seeding, I'd rather forfeit the game than play while my opponent next week has a bye. I'm sure the league would not allow that, but I'd then play all backups, maybe only play 9 guys on the field. If Tenn was also in playoff contention I'd imagine they'd feel the same. Maybe by then there will be a dozen or so makeups, that changes things then. But I'd rather see the make ups between week 15 to 16 so this way everyone plays two games after that. If there are any required makeups in the last two weeks, NFL reverts to plan ZZ! Big difference the NFL is only allowed to report football related injuries. How often do you hear some player has some not football related thing and it's kept a big secret. Recall it happening with one of the Bills lineman Henderson was it, turns out he had Crohns desease if I recall, for months no one knew what was going on. Eventually it kind of leaked out or maybe Henderson announced it, don't recall exactly, but do know anything not football related is protected info. Not sure where Covid falls, but there are many league limitiations

It's only been 4 weeks, can recall Trent Edwards looking amazing for about a 5 week span too that one year. Then he hit his head and everything fell apart. Admittedly there's been more year to year improvement with Allen than we ever saw from Edwards. Certainly if Allen keeps this up all year, he likely becomes the best QB from the class of 2018. Though Mayfield is looking pretty good right now too.

Yes was suppose to be on Fox, but can't see them repeating like the did last Monday where the ESPN was delayed around 40 minutes and the KC NE game was being played at the same time. I'm sure the ratings for the ESPN game weren't the greatest going against the other game though did involved Green Bay so that may have helped some. Fox would be fine with it I'm sure, but can't imagine ESPN agreeing. I'm thinking that's why this weeks NE Denver game which originally was on CBS was moved to Monday and is now an ESPN doubleheader. I'm guessing they said no, so they gave it to ESPN unless that was part of the deal, they gave ESPN the game this week in exchange for next week playing second fiddle. Or the Bills KC game on Fox starts at 5:00 eastern so over before Monday Night Football

That would be the only other viable option, make it a Monday night doubleheader, likely both would need to be on ESPN so they'd go along with it. Officially didn't they state the game will: "Be played later this weekend"? That does leave that option open.

Currently the Fox 4:25 game is Green Bay at Tampa, Brady Rodgers, Green Bay being one of the top five most popular teams in league. Sunday night is Rams at San Fran, can't see them dumping that one either. Even Monday Dallas is one anther team they won't preempt and Tuesday is game 1 of the World Series on Fox. Networks care more about showing the game with the best ratings more than which might be the better game. If any of them were dog games, then yes could see them switch but not a marginally better game for another more popular one. Likely at best will be a second 4:25 game that is only shown in the KC and Western NY markets. Basically the same as last week when they played 4:25, most of the country was getting NE- KC, small amount got the Raiders Bills game. Only once the KC game was canceled, then most of the country got Bills game.

OK so then they can come off the list anytime they are no longer in a contagious state, no 3 week minimum. That explains it! Thanks!

Read an article that some of the Titans feel they are being portrayed unfairly and what's being stated in the press isn't accurate. Tannerhill was quoted for one. Hate to play a team that feels they've been wronged and it's "us against the world" mentality. They can sometimes rise to unexpected heights. Reminds me of the game the Bills had canceled, then moved to Detroit against the Jets because of the snowstorm in November about 4 years ago. The Bills were hardly able to practice all week, not many gave them a chance, and they blew the Jets out (poor Rex!) Trying to understand too if players are placed on the Covid List is that different than the IR list? Thought that was why they changed the rules this year to only needing to be on IR for 3 weeks because of Covid. Don't understand then how any of the Tenn players would be eligible to come back and play this week if they have to be on IR for 3 weeks minimum??