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Great. Rob Gronkowski and Evan Engram's price tag just went up.

Cole wasn't returning BEFORE this move. After it, there's no way. He was either going to have to take a serious paycut or he'd be released. The fact that he was granted permission to seek a trade says he wasn't interested in the first option. And there's no way we're keeping him for the role he has on this team with declining stats and his release being able to save us 6.1 million dollars on a team that has far greater needs.

Wow. I'm honestly shocked. I figured he'd want to test the market at the very least. Guess the scuttlebutt of him not being happy here and McDermott not being a fan were bs.

😂 Hilarious. ... wait, this IS a joke right?

Something I keep hearing is "the time to win the Super Bowl is now" as reasoning that we'll be players in FA. But the same was said last season (maybe even louder) and we weren't. And we're in the exact same spot we were last season as far as the cap, with maybe even less simple ways of freeing space. And yet expectations are even HIGHER than they were at this time last year. I hope I'm wrong, but I definitely see a lot of "is Beane asleep?" and "what is Beane doing?!" posts coming over the next few days.

You're correct, I was confusing this with the pre-legal tampering days of FA when deals were struck at Midnight.

26.3 cap hit for Frank Clark? Hard pass.

Yes, but as I said, he's not the type of GM who's going to spend cap space that he's expecting to have freed up through an extension or restructure until it's officially been signed or agreed upon.

It does if he wants to be a player in most of these big name signings that people are hoping for. That first wave goes quick and starts in 8 hours.

We're now under 10 hours until the "Free Agency Frenzy" begins and Beane still hasn't freed up anything beyond getting us 1 million under the cap. Unless he makes some major moves today, I don't see us doing anything of substance in that first wave of "big splash moves". He's not the type of GM to go over the cap and count on cap saving moves until they happen. Watching "The Free Agency Frenzy" about an hour ago on NFL Network, they talked about the Bills and said they're smartly run and have used their cap to build a solid core and that they expect them to secure value FA's later on and finish the roster off in the Draft.

The end of the season and the playoffs said that person is Devin Singletary. They've always had an undying faith and loyalty to him and in keeping him on the field as much as possible instead of utilizing him in a two man system, he rewarded that faith during that time. I expect much of the same this coming season. Singletary will be the primary ball carrier. I don't see them bringing in a guy that's going to keep him on the bench or split carries with coming off him looking the best he ever has. Just a guy that will spell him when he needs a breather. And like I said, all that aside, it flies in the face of Beane's modus operandi in the first place. He doesn't spend high picks or spend big money on that position. Especially not when I think they're just looking for someone to be Singletary's spell guy. And in the case of Barkley and McCaffrey, you're asking him to do BOTH at the same time. I just can't see it. Especially this year when we have a lot of holes to fill, cap space is tight, and we're picking at the end of each round. And especially not after Devin looked as good as ever. At most, and I'd even be surprised if they did this, they'd sign one of the top RB's in FA like Leonard Fournette, James Conner, Chase Edmonds, or Melvin Gordon. Or they'd spend a 2nd on a Breece Hall or Kenneth Walker. Not give up a big pick AND spend big cap space, especially on guys who have serious wear and tear on their tires. It's just not happening.

I think the kind of posters who are hoping for a trade for Saquon Barkley, signing for Chandler Jones, Rob Gronkowski, Bobby Wagner, re-signing Harrison Phillips AND trading Tremaine Edmunds for a 2nd Round Pick DEFINITELY are. But I don't think *a* big time signing, especially something like Gronk, on an incentive laden deal, is out of the question. I think it all depends on what your personal expectations are.

They aren't getting both. They already have Bradley Chubb on the roster. So you're not paying a Von Miller or a Chandler Jones what it would cost to be a rotational piece. And they're going to have to pay Chubb by next offseason as he's on his 5th year option this season.

Again, who says he won't? All my posts have been alluding to my expectation that it will probably happen soon. People seem to think signing long term deals or restructuring deals are simple and get done at the snap of a finger. Negotiations take time and I'd expect it to get done sometime between now and before the start of the season.

At least your being honest with yourself unlike those who speak of it like it's a forgone conclusion when it couldn't be further from reality.

I wouldn't consider picking up a 5th year option and re-upping him before the start of that 5th year is "waiting". It's a fairly common practice.

Agreed. Brandon Beane has proven time and again that he doesn't allocate premium draft picks or pay for RB's. No way he's doing both. Especially for a guy who's proven time and again he can't stay on the field. And especially after Singletary finished the season in the fashion he did. I see him looking at another Frank Gore, TJ Yeldon, Matt Breida like inexpensive veteran or a mid round pick. And that will be that for RB. I'm not convinced they will. I find it much more likely he's extended soon to lower his cap figure this season than it is he's traded.

No, it doesn't the post he replied to was saying he believes Beane is letting this year play out and going from there without being clear what he's going to do yet (and personally, I'm not convinced he's even that down on him). He wasn't saying he's definitely out the door after this season. I think you're reading it wrong.

Edmunds is on his 5th year option this year and Oliver is on his 5th year option next year. Yes, they can't which makes some of these laundry list of Superstar moves this season even more ridiculous.

It's much more likely that Edmunds will be extended to create cap space. And man, I can't wait to see some of your guys posts if/when it happens. Nothing about what Beane and McDermott has ever said and how they've used him makes me think he's viewed even remotely like his detractors on this board view him. Edmunds will not be traded. I'd bet the house. Who says they are moving on him from after this year?

Re-signing Milano and Williams is a far cry from trading for Barkley, re-signing Phillips, and signing Gronkowski and Chandler. He was very flexible last year and was able to make some moves. But I think that makes it harder this season. You can't restructure or paycut everyone year after year. I think he'll do some things and maybe get one or two of those guys. But this idea of "he can create space whenever he wants" isn't as easy as a lot of posters make it out to be. FA opens on Monday and we're still only 1-2 million under the cap. You can't even sign draft picks with that. The fact that were still sitting where we're at this close to the start of FA just goes to show it's not as simple as people are making it to be. And people are reaching Madden levels of ridiculousness.

Even if we were able to land ALL those people (unrealistic), even if Beane was on the same page with you and traded Edmunds (unrealistic), even if every possible way to free up every penny was able to be done and agreed upon by those players (unrealistic) - we still wouldn't have enough cash to make all of that happen. Saquon Barkley, Chandler Jones, Rob Gronkowski, Bobby Chandler, and re-signing Harrison Phillips is insanely unrealistic.

It's Saturday. Free Agency opens on Monday. Beane's gonna do some stuff between now and then to get some wiggle room to make moves. But THAT much? No way. "They can do anything they want" is such a minimizing thing to say. It's not that simple. You need to have the contracts to make it work for both parties and you need them to agree to it. If it were as simple as that, we'd have the space right now.

Apparently, I missed the memo that being 2 million under the cap actually means we're 50 million under the cap. We can make some moves to free up some money. But not THAT much. And there's a lot of you who are going to be really disappointed because Edmunds will be here this year and will most likely be extended to free up space. He will NOT be traded. Beane even acknowledged his detectors and made a point to say he doesn't agree with you.

So we lose Emmanuel Sanders, Isaiah McKenzie, and Cole Beasley and you have us signing no replacements in FA and not taking a WR in the first 3 picks? That's a bold strategy.