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Agreed. Of the 6 member rookie class, TJ and Dorian already have over 70 snaps and Deone has 54 snaps. Of the virtual rookies, Logue has 41 snaps and Cole Bishop has played 26% of his career NFL snaps this year.

The Bills have 2 new defensive coaches as well as an enormous amount of new players. In fact, no fewer than 10 new defensive players will receive substantial playing time this year, barring injury. Keep in mind too that the team is incorporating more 4-3 this year. New coaches, new players, new schemes... Here are the the defensive departures since last year and their 2024 total snap counts: Rasul Douglas 996 Dawuane Smoot 386 Kaiir Elam 359 Austin Johnson 352 Von MIller 333 Baylon Spector 291 Casey Toohill 249 Quinton Jefferson 119 Edefuan Ulofoshio 64 Nicholas Morrow 44 Kareem Jackson 32 Kingsley Jonathan 7 Mike Edwards 7 Here are the new additions since last year: Coaches: Ryan Nielsen: Defensive Senior Assistant. He was the DC for the Falcons and the Jaguars. His focus is the defensive line. Jason Rebrovich: Co-Defensive Line Coach. He is working with Nielsen and incumbent D-line Coach Marcus West. Veterans: Joey Bosa DE: The 5-time Pro Bowler's play has exceeded expectations but there is a constant fear of injury with him. Michael Hoecht DE: Versatile and athletic player will return in week 6. Upgrade over Epenesa, Toohill and Smoot. Larry Ogunjobi DT: Solid veteran who will return in week 6. Is a clear and obvious upgrade over Austin Johnson, Quinton Jefferson and Dwayne Carter. Tre-Davious White CB: Former elite player working back from torn ACL in 11/2021 and Achilles in 10/2023. Snap counts in 2025: Week 1: 0 Week 2: 26 (55%) Week 3: 61 (100%). Shaq Thompson LB: Former 1st round pick and solid starter. Played Big Nickel in Carolina. Is playing outside linebacker in Buffalo. Snap counts in 2025: Week 1: 0 Week 2: 0 Week 3: 21 (34%) Rookies: Maxwell Hairston CB: 1st round pick. Elite athletic skills. Has not played in 2025 due to injury in July 2025. TJ Sanders DL: 2nd round pick. 2025 snap counts: Week 1: 16 (31%) Week 2: 23 (49%) Week 3: 36 (59%) Landon Jackson DE: 3rd round pick. 2025 snap counts: None Deone Walker DT: 4th round pick. 2025 snap counts: Week 1: 13 (25%) Week 2: 22 (47%) Week 3: 19 (31%) Jordan Hancock DB: 5th round pick. 2025 snap counts: None Dorian Strong DB: 6th round pick. 2025 snap counts: Week 1: 51 (100%) Week 2: 21 (45%) Week 3: 0 Others: Zion Logue DT: 2025 snap counts: Week 1: 0 Week 2: 16 (34%) Week 3: 25 (41%) 2024 total snap counts: 36 (25% in 2 games played) Practice Squad: Jordan Poyer S Jordan Phillips DT Dane Jackson CB Takeaways: The Bills have no fewer than 10 new defensive players who will see substantial amounts of playing time, barring injury. The new veterans are clear and obvious upgrades over last year's veterans. Cole Bishop has played 159 snaps this year (26% of his total career snaps) after playing 463 snaps last year. The Bills invested 6 draft picks on defensive players. This is unprecedented in team history since the 7 round draft started in 1994. With the exception of Landon Jackson, all of the rookies have flashed (Hairston and Hancock in training camp/preseason). Deone Walker's week 3 snaps went down a bit due to the extra playing time earned by Zion Logue. Zion Logue has already played more snaps this year (41 to 36) than he did last year. There's absolutely no doubt that the Bills defense will: 1) improve over the course of the season and 2) be better than last year. In fact they might already be better than last year. The questions are: 1) How much will they be improved? 2) Will it be enough to win a Super Bowl?

I don't know what VAR is but I always thought the solution was to shoot strong lasers up from the uprights when the ball is in the air. The lasers would be located such that if any part of the ball is illuminated, the kick is no good.

So then, Justin Herbert hasn't ascended to the Top 5 this season? Too soon? Get with the program... around here we get our news from Adam Schefler. Yes but according to many here, the Bills should fire their entire athletic training and S & C staff. Isn't this where 2-3 posters are supposed to chime in that they wanted us to trade up for him? Brian Thomas Jr and Marvin Harrison Jr, underscore how difficult it is to develop receivers. There are exceptions but the exceptions are exactly that.

There's tons of buzz for Justin Herbert for MVP. As I mentioned elsewhere, in Sunday's win over Denver, analyst Trent Green said he considers Herbert to be the best QB in the NFL. I was shocked and outraged but Green's not the only want who's gravitating towards the new, shiny object with his hot takes. True but their D was more than just assignment sound.

Hopefully in this next stretch before the KC game, there'll be enough blowouts whereby the cubs can get lots of garbage time reps. Diggs has reached a point in his career where if he's unhappy, he'll keep it to himself. just as Tyreek Hill struggles to control himself so as not to commit career suicide, so too will Diggs. Like you say, the Saints will be up 7-0 on their first possession and there'll be 49 pages in the live game thread before the Bills proceed to dismantle them.

I think the criticism of Lamar's play is off base... he's a great QB IMO. However he needs to be more stoic, impassive, and expressionless than he is. He too easily shows his frustration and anger and that's something the great QBs rarely do. Agreed. Before this era of athletic, mobile QBs who could extend plays, the prototypical QBs were big, immobile guys with big arms and the ability to make every throw like Brady and Manning... and Goff. Agree 100%. It's... interesting reading people in this topic who are saying that Lamar and Goff aren't great QBs.

Again I don’t know but our place is in Mariposa and his Aunt Liz lives here. Just knowing a bit of the family and the culture in the Central Valley farm/ranch community I would guess that he doesn’t partake. JMO.

Of course we have no way of knowing for sure but my guess is that he’s not a user but isn’t above joking about it and leaving some playful doubt. Among his many admirable traits, Josh is a playful guy.

It doesn’t get team names or spellings of last names wrong.

Geno Smith threw a ball away on 4th and 10 last week, so there's that. He has a great "high knees" workout.

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If it were AI, I'm pretty sure it would have spelled Matt LaFleur correctly and associated the Chargers with Los Angeles, not San Diego.

Speaking of announcers, in today's Broncos-Chargers game, analyst and former NFL QB Trent Green said that he thinks Justin Herbert is the best quarterback in the NFL. Needless to say, I was shocked.

Russ has "a great attitude." While flying to London for a game as a member of the Broncos, Russ spent four hours walking up and down the aisle, performing high-knee exercises while his teammates were trying to sleep. It did not go over well.

Brian Gaine Part Deux...

I thought I did hear something about his pelvis...

Not to mention the Chiefs have to play us as well as playing the Chargers one more time. They also have to play Denver twice. Their D-line is obscenely talented, Dexter Lawrence, Thibodeaux, Burns, and Abdul Carter. Maybe they'll draft another pass rusher.

Interestingly in the same 2011 draft, the subject of this topic Cam Jordan was the 1st round pick (24th overall) of the New Orleans Saints with whom he's spent his entire career. On the other hand Jordan Cameron was drafted in the 4th round by the Browns and was ironically (and confusingly), a tight end... the same position played by Cam Jordan's dad, former Vikings Pro Bowl tight end Steve Jordan. To add to the confusion, Cam Heyward son of longtime NFL running back Craig "Ironhead" Heyward was also taken in that draft. Like Cam Jordan, Cam Heyward has spent his entire career with one team, in his case the Pittsburgh Steelers. Both sons of former NFLers, Jordan and Heyward have legitimate shots at the HOF. Both of them have DT/DE versatility and are superb blends of power and quickness. Their excellence over 15 years is almost unprecedented. That 2011 draft is considered possibly the greatest D-line draft in history. The following D-linemen were all taken in the 1st round of that draft: Von Miller Marcell Dareus Aldon Smith JJ Watt Nick Fairly Robert Quinn Ryan Kerrigan Corey Luiget Adrian Clayborn Phil Taylor Cameron Jordan Muhammad Wilkerson Cameron Heyward All of the above made at least one Pro Bowl. D-linemen taken in the 2nd round of that same 2011 draft were: Jabaal Sheard Jarvis Jenkins Brooks Reed DaQuan Bowers Marvin Austin Stephen Paea

So blatant and as was pointed out, they don't call this penalty but on the same play, call the Giants. Agreed... Hollywood basically fell down because he sucks.

I agree. There were 2 plays where Cook was shoestringed… one where I thought he saw the tackler and could have high-stepped. He does run with a gliding style. A little of the tire or mesh drill could clean that up. 👍

I understand that Cook’s public statement of $15 million turned some people off. I think people should consider what we don’t know about any conversations that happened between his camp and the Bills. It’s weird to me, for instance that Rousseau, Bernard, and Shakir, we’re all in the front of the line when it’s very obvious who the best player from that draft class is. Maybe Cook’s public comments was frustration regarding the Bills’, treatment of his contract. Maybe he felt disrespected by the team. Maybe his comments were necessary to get what he was seeking.

It was actually a manila folder... same difference.

Disagree. Tre didn't play in week 1, split snaps with Dorian in week 2 and then played all the snaps in week 3. This tells you that the coaching staff wants him in game shape so that they can depend on him as a known quantity/variable and defensive leader. Of course Strong (and eventually Hairston) needs snaps to develop but with Cole Bishop having only started 7 games and Dorian Williams having only started 16 games in 3 seasons, and with Shaq Thompson, Joey Bosa, Deone Walker, and TJ Sanders all trying to assimilate into the defense, the last thing the Bills need is to force a rookie cornerback into what is already a bucket of moving parts. I'm predicting there will be some blowouts in the Bills near future and that's when Strong can pickup valuable playing time.

In a defense with so many new parts (both rookie and veteran), the worst thing would be to try to break in a rookie cornerback when you have a veteran who can capably man the position and who knows the defense like the back of his hand. Tre is an asset to this defense. His ability to communicate pre-snap and get the team lined up correctly is invaluable as the defense tries to become cohesive. People here who are simultaneously criticizing Tre White starting and the Bills defensive performance are arguing against themselves. It's more important for the new D-linemen and Cole Bishop to gel than it is to break in one more rookie on the back end. Only when the defense has substantially gelled should White then cede time to Hairston and I certainly trust the coaching staff to know when that time is.