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His Defensive Coordinator at New Hampshire said “He broke decades-long strength records in three months at New Hampshire” and “He’s the type of person you want to build your team around." He said furthermore, “I don’t know what you do with him. I don’t know where you put him. (But) there’s zero chance he doesn’t make the team better. He’s going to adapt to whatever you ask him to do. He’s going to work exceptionally hard at it, and he’s going to do so to the best of his ability, and his ability is pretty special.” Apparently Owens played both cornerback and safety and was a team captain at Yale (before transferring to UNH). Yale head coach Tony Reno told the Yale athletics website. “Wande is an exceptional player and an outstanding leader. The Buffalo Bills are getting a great one.” Pretty much all the scouting services had him ranked as an undrafted free agent. One had him ranked as the 21st undrafted safety.

I thought the draft was over.

Are you speaking from firsthand experience?

What's it worth to ya?

That was the double kick in the mouth for Josh... living so close to Fresno he grew up a Bulldogs fan and as a high school player he used to attend the Fresno State football camps and got to know the coaching staff and the Carrs... but they wouldn't offer him a scholarship... so he said he would walk on without a scholarship and they told him they were all set at quarterback... so he went to Reedley College for a year and starred there... and after that, Fresno State still wouldn't give him the time of day. When the new Fresno State head football coach Jeff Tedford was being introduced, the AD or college president or someone remarked at the news conference, "... and by the way, Coach Tedford knows where Firebaugh, California is" or something to that effect.

Maybe the data will make the point more clear... Arch Manning has played in a grand total of 12 NCAA games. He's started 2 of those games. One week ago he turned 21 years old (so he's only one year older than Tremaine Edmunds).

The Saints are probably tanking. The Steelers are possibly tanking. And, trading for Winston after he could have been signed as a free agent? That would be an admission of incompetence.

To the above, Exactly. Imagine the reaction here if Starks had said Mahomes or Burrow and someone posted that here. More or less outrage than this topic? Perfect. Maybe that's based on how old you are? You really believe that Lamar can't read defenses pre-snap or throw to his second or third read? As far as the "placebo effect": By most definitions calling it such means that it did actually have an effect. If it had no effect it would not qualify as a placebo. As others have pointed it out, there's no way to measure it HOWEVER, to say that bulletin board material NEVER has a motivating aspect to it is preposterous. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't... case by case.

The Josh we all know and love. Even years later I have panic watching the dog pile growing in the end zone while his teammates rushed onto the field. I wonder if he was asked about his thoughts at the bottom of that pile...

Interesting to note that: In the NFL, the minimum an undrafted free agent can be paid is $840K. The highest paid player in the CFL is QB Nathan Rourke who makes about $600K US.

Maybe after a few hundred million, money isn't quite as important for some people. Personally, I commend his absence of greed. If some of the ultra-wealthy were less-greedy, this world would be a much better place. On a different note... "“Kellen Moore declares an open QB competition among Tyler Shough, Jake Haener, and Spencer Rattler”

Kirk Cousins just started salivating... According to Spotrac, he's made $196 million in his career.

If I was Ed Oliver I'd be getting pretty nervous.

Price? Is that you? Price Waterhouse?

It's those jeans you're wearing...