DapperCam

I’m not even making a claim about who is better. I’m just disputing the fact that Mahomes outplayed Allen in their playoff match last season. QBs don’t play against each other, they play against the other team’s defense. The defense Allen played was dominant and the defense Mahomes played was a bad joke. You can’t even compare their performances because their circumstances were apples and oranges.

Allen had to face one of the hardest defenses in the league last season (especially pass defense). Mahomes had to play against a defense with literal dudes off the street. It isn’t even a comparison. And still Allen basically matched him score for score and it came down to a missed FG. If Allen got to play the Bills defense last playoffs he probably would have had a perfect game (Mahomes basically did because the defense was just that bad).

Even after 12 or 13 there would still be guys like Trevor Lawrence, Goff, Kyler Murray, Cousins, Tua. Then the "high potential" QBs like Caleb Williams, Anthony Richardson, Jayden Daniels, etc. QB is just too important to take a pass rusher first. There is too much of a drop off between a Goff and a Sam Darnold to risk it.

The number of people online who think this list is some sort of objective truth is too high. A player is handed a ballot in the locker room to write down 20 names after Thanksgiving during the season. Only a subset of NFL players are polled. I don't believe each team or position group get the same number of players polled. Just whoever the guys handing out the ballots can get to fill it out. Each ballot probably has 10 players from their own team on it, and then 10 players that they are most friendly with. Dawkins at the bottom of the list probably only got votes from Bills players because there is no way a player from another team that isn't his personal friend would rank him as a top 20 player in the NFL. /rant

I'll do 5 1. Mahomes 2. Allen 3. Burrow 4. Stroud 5. Jackson I think the first 20 picks or so in an NFL redraft would be entirely quarterbacks.

It's 100% voted on by players. I don't think many even watch football games outside of their own prep for each week. It's fully a popularity contest, and Allen seems to struggle to win those. Putting on my conspiracy hat, I think players in the league hold Allen's tweets from when he was a teenager against him. I also think he's known as one of the biggest trash talkers in the league. So, down the popularity rankings he goes. Like another poster said, if there were a NFL-wide redraft, Mahomes would go #1 and Allen would go #2.

Chiefs will come up with ways to get him in motion so he doesn't get jammed at the line. Kind of like Hill in Miami. Still though...a high pick if he just ends up being a burner and not a well rounded WR. He seems like he has a high chance of becoming another Andy Isabella.

Props to AJ for coming in during the playoff game last year. He didn’t play great, but it was a lot to ask. Hope he gets his RV vacation to Key West.

I'm kind of wondering if we will be running a lot more this season. I know McDermott loves a "ball control" offense. If that's the case maybe a good blocking WR will make sense. I'm more of a fan of letting Allen air it out personally, and only falling back to the run if it isn't working.

Your first mistake was listening to what guys are saying on WGR, lol.

It’s possible that Coleman won’t be able to get great separation in the NFL, but if his hands are elite, he’ll make a great living on jump balls and the scramble drill. NFL DBs are smaller than ever.

If I were a lifelong Browns fan, I would probably take a break for 5 years or so until Watson is gone and most of the front office responsible for bringing him in has turned over.

Hollins was brought in because he is an excellent blocker for an WR and plays well on special teams. He will probably make the roster, but won’t be putting up big volume stats as a receiver.

I mean the Patriots basically did that with Brady, giving him special business deals. If you aren't cheating, then you aren't trying (the Patriot's refrain).

So when does Allen redo his deal, lol.

I feel bad for the defense in training camp. They have to go against Josh Allen. Iron sharpens iron, or something like that...

I think this is voted on by the players, and they seem to not like Allen for some reason. Maybe it's all the trash talk.

He should play better in the playoffs then.

Looked over the wrong shoulder but still able to adjust for the catch. Having Shakir, Kincaid and Coleman being very reliable targets for intermediate type routes should make the offense almost unstoppable. Maybe not as explosive as in years past, but we'll be churning out first downs.

CeeDee Lamb is holding out. Cowboys just like shooting themselves in the foot. Would love Lamb on the Bills.

Brissett is pretty good for a stop-gap. As the Bills I would much rather face Maye.

6-7 wins. Their defense isn’t too bad, and they have the best skill player in the NFL.

Apparently he has diabetes and doesn’t manage it well/doesn’t take it seriously. That was the rumor anyway. A lot of teams passed on him when he should have been a mid-1st round pick based on talent and production. So something was up there to fall like that.

I’m not really worried about a play like that. The way teams play the Bills and Chiefs takes that play away usually. It isn’t going to be bombs away now that the Chiefs have somebody fast. Worthy will need to show he can get RAC on short passes, and burn CBs on intermediate routes (like Hill does).

He was dropping the ball way more than usual, and not fighting for catches like he normally does. He was definitely “off”. Whether it’s because he lost a step or just mentally checked out is kind of irrelevant to us. He had to go. His buddies supporting him, and his new teammate saying he’s in the best shape of his life are pretty much irrelevant. Similar stories come out every offseason for washed players. His play on the field will show it one way or the other.