UKBillFan

The Bills should have flown out earlier - Tuesday evening at the latest. Yes, they were copying other teams that had already flown to Europe but why? When they were the first franchise to be at a disadvantage over their opponent, who had five days on them even if they had flown out Tuesday night. As it is, the Bills sports scientists decided to give them another three days.

ETIENNE said he felt so much better ten days in compared to how he felt for the Falcons game. Every Jag had that advantage. Every Bill didn't. Is the only reason the Bills lost? No. Play calling, execution, some bad officiating. But is it a reason? Even a victorious NFL player is saying, in a round about way, that yes it is.

Which might be fine if the Bills played a team in the same position, rather than one which had been on British Summer Time for a fortnight.

I didn't expect anything else, to be fair, so not too fussed about the Dolphins, Chiefs, Bengals or Jets this week.

The amount of time the Jags had in possession didn't help. If it was just 60/40 to the Jags, the Bills would have probably won.

You can - if the offense played properly. Feels like Poyer's time may be up, sadly.

Personally thought Diggs could have done better with the second one. Was basically wrestled away from him.

Money chasing NFL execs, Goodell, the zebras, Dorsey, receivers who can't catch?

How many 3rd Down's did they let through their grasp after looking decent on that score in preceding weeks, including against the much better Dolphins offense? Blown coverage, basic errors. The defense did well, but a lot of plays slipped by. But, yes, bad play calling and executing played a part on offense.

The Jags had a clear advantage, being able to acclimatise for such a longer period compared to the Bills. I think that played a part today. Does that excuse everything which went wrong? No.

The only thing is, we've seen "stupid games" from the Bills when they've played in America so, whilst I think jet lag is a valid issue, it's not a get out of jail free card.

In fairness, being over here for a long period of time means they get set up a proper base and acclimatise. There is no way the NFL should have allowed such an inbalance to start with. The Jags should have got one game in London, then told to return home.

Today's result is on the lack of execution and some poor playcalls on offense plus the Jags defense being allowed to play fast and loose with the rules. It was not down to class play on their part.

I think the biggest annoyance is every issue which the Bills offense has had which, perhaps naively, many thought had been sorted out, has clearly not been. After making steps forward from week one (as that was on Josh, not playcalling), today feels like a massive step back. ETA - Forgot to mention the horrendous injuries building up on defense.

The fact you have only 669 posts shows how many times the Bills have lost of late, considering you only appear after a defeat.

Your original post said Daboll as HC, Dorsey as OC?

Yes, I accept the argument the Bills should have an offensive geared head coach or someone with more experience at OC.

Like when we only put up 16 at the Titans? 17 at the Chiefs? 16 at the Steelers? SIX against the Jags? 15 in a miserable performance at home to the Colts? 10 against the Pats (albeit that was the wind game). Overall, the offense played fine under Daboll but then it has since for the most part. Yes, the Bills have nightmare games under Dorsey but they had them under Daboll too.

Not sure if you missed the number of injuries there were in defense? White, Milano, Jones, Miller only just coming back, Floyd limping at the half, Johnson off for a spell - goodness knows if he was completely fit on his return. And then it's a case of the offense not being able to dominate TOP meaning they kept returning to the field.

Diggs was completely out-wrestled by a 5ft 9 CB at one point.

No. Offensively the Bills were as much, if not more of, a mess under Daboll as they are sometimes under Dorsey. And he's hardly lighting it up with the Giants, after inexplicably going all in on Jones. Is that the kind of judgement call they need at Orchard Park?

It wasn't about injuries. The defense did well all things considered. All the offense needed to do was build TOP and keep them off the field. Talk abouyt complete and utter failure.

These garbage games wouldn't happen with Daboll? Really? Seem to recall them happening quite a bit. Shanahan and Josh would be intriguing. Shanahan likes running to a fixed plan; can Josh stick to one consistently?

Monday would have been too soon; they needed a day to recover. They could have even used the facilities on Tuesday then flown out. But it never should have been later than Tuesday night, especially as the UK is ahead. If they took a flight at, say, 10pm, then would have landed around 9.30am Wednesday. Then they'd have to adjust accordingly, but at least they would have had four days to do it.

Wasn't the first one tipped? Not sure what happened to the O Line today. Is their D Line that much better than the Dolphins?