UKBillFan

The game wasn't lost on the relative qualities of the QB yesterday. It was lost on the fitness of the defenses.

I know. It's a disaster. I don't know how they could have made such a mess of the QB position... (Why am I worried someone might take the above seriously?)

Saw you post on here after I asked. I doubt any franchise will give what the Bills would ask for for Josh, so they'll have to run him back and see what happens.

You still haven't answered my question in another thread about who you'd like to replace him with, and how the Bills can do it.

From memory he's worked out/practised every summer but the last. And considering the utter mess last year was I couldn't blame him for that.

He’s been a great teammate all season?

It depends on expectation. In year one, year two even, yes, getting to the Divisional round would have been/is successful. I can appreciate considering the mess the Bills were in at 6-6 that winning the East and getting to the Divisional is quite the recovery. But, with the roster in place and the moves made in season to improve it, is further failure to at least get to the Championship game satisfactory? Guess that’s down to personal opinion.

Teams 1-31 in the draft are all the same in one way - they haven’t won a Super Bowl. The Bills look no further forward now than they ever had and other franchises, such as the Texans, are starting to rapidly improve. Considering the QB at their disposal a showing of one Championship game (a loss) from six seasons is ridiculous.

The Bills weren’t just missing Milano then - they were missing his replacement too.

I really want him to go back to Palmer this off season. Work on being more of a pocket passer, on making plays when the O Line holds up and he has time to survey the field. No one’s perfect but if he can improve on that, he’d be as close to unstoppable as a QB can be.

The gutting thing is how many times has Josh left the field with a lead? Even in his downtime this season he seemed to do it more often than not. Yet in the biggest game of the season, he couldn’t do it. Blame Jones. Congratulate Jones. Say Josh should have thrown to Diggs. But, albeit unreasonably, that’s what’s going to follow him around the off season. On the plus side, it’s a damnsight better than what he had swirling around him after the Bengals game this time last year. Edit - Or even blame Dawkins.

Next year will be a waste with McDermott here. Then, if the Bills sack him at that point, 2025 will be the rebuild instead and another year wasted. The Bucs realised the die was cast with Dungy. Same with Reid at Philadelphia. Next year is going to be a rebuild of sorts anyway so may as well let a new HC oversee it. Even though I fully realise it won’t happen.

One thing different is an optimistic way is, despite the 2&9 question mark, I think most of us will be going into the off season feeling more confident in Josh. It’s never nice to end the season on a bad performance and, other than the arguable final two throws, he certainly didn’t do that, which is different from 2023 (albeit the whole team stunk the place out against the Bengals).

Wonder if Josh will be low key bad mouthing him throughout the off season? Think we all know the answer.

The Bills would probably have to hand over pick 60 too in that trade.

No different from every other year under McDermott with an, on paper, stronger roster.

Trade down for a couple more round two picks.

Agreed. He deserves an interview but he hasn’t done nearly enough to simply walk into the post.

Depends who else you can pick on the roster. Is it anyone from the league? If so, with a heavy heart, do you say Mahomes ahead of Josh? And, if so, have the Bills got anyone on the roster who would be first pick for any other team. Perhaps that’s where the issue lies.

I appreciate you’re specifically referring to the post season, but taking all games into account it’s 3-4. Basically a 50/50 split between the two.

As I said elsewhere, it’s a possibility but considering the route/communication issues revolving around him all season it’s just as likely he would have been standing in a completely different spot.

As great as he was during the 13 seconds game, the Chiefs were a mess defensively, tripping over themselves as Einstein said, and he had support from the rest of the offense through the game. How many drops were there during 13 seconds? And last night? Arguably, he was a key component during 13 seconds but not the be all and end all. Last night, bar Kincaid early on, he had to do everything. Having slept on it, I’m in two minds about the final drive, but can see why he threw deep. It’s a shame that’s going to detract what he did for through the rest of the game.

Though do you take the TD when the opportunity presents itself, rather than check down because there might be a chance on the next set of downs? I don’t know. I feel Josh carried the Bills all night and am split whether he let us down in the end. Can see the arguments from both sides.

Whoever wins the AFC it’ll be non stop praise of Jackson and Mahomes. Not looking forward to either; if I do watch it it will be on mute. Hoping for a horrific 3-0 game where Justin Tucker kicks a 99 yard FG in overtime.

I think the Diggs or Shakir option is a toss up which one is the one to take. As others have said, who knows if Diggs would have dropped it anyway? Or fumbled? Or there would be a tipped interception on the next play? Where the opportunity is there to try for a TD, should it be taken? He might have done if he’d run the right route but, based on this season, he would have probably been standing next to Diggs or Shakir instead.