Yantha

Guys.... with respect..... considering some of the snide responses here, I'm guessing that if I bumped an old thread, I'd get equally lambasted for doing so. If you don't want to discuss T.E., then please just stop posting your responses. Nothing is forcing you to. Move along to a discussion you are interested in. Just a suggestion.

Good points. Do you feel we are "done" on DL for this draft, and to what extent will our run defense improve if we don't make a change(s) with linebackers?

Then move along.

Look... The Bills ranked 20th in run defense, their worst team stat.... The fact that we have not seemed to be even putting much stock into drafting a linebacker early (I know.... cornerback.....) to me was something I was curious about. There have been some suggestions to draft linebacker, but considering that run defense was arguably one of the bigger weaknesses last season (not just my opinion, just going by team stats), should we not be putting more of an emphasis on stopping the run? Von Miller will help, and we added some DL FA's. Yes, there have been lots of Tremaine discussions... but at the CORE of my post was a draft question.

I've been here for 3 weeks maybe and didn't see a dedicated thread. I'm hearing that there are lots of other threads but they are buried in the later pages. Sorry I don't go mining back into the past, bringing back STALE threads. I love talking about the draft, but honestly some of you make this annual visit rather painful. We are all Bills fans so why is there always a core group of bad apples that just like to throw insults and cause conflict. geez.... People... Try being positive and happy. for a change.

Well to me honest, I only visit this site during the lead up to the draft and after that I'm out. Hoping to learn from the pros here..... no short supply it seems. In all seriousness, are we rolling the dice on Tremaine again or moving on?

If I missed an Edmunds thread, then mods please merge. I didn't see anything here, but only rejoined this group maybe 3 weeks ago. We are getting closer and closer to the draft, and RESPECTFULLY was asking the knowledgeable fans a few questions. smh...

Yeah I've been wondering why we haven't. Time for a respectful chat! Personally, I say "he's a Bill", so we have to hope he steps it up and plays to his potential. But I think that Beane knows best of course, and Edmunds has a value according to the team. Will he be traded? Given an ultimatum? Surely he wants a big paycheque, so he has to EARN that.

LOL..... Is that what's going to happen? I haven't been here for a while.... Let's not let emotion take this one over.

Linebacker is a need. But just how BIG of a need remains to be seen and I am guessing that most would agree that Tremaine is at the center of that discussion. So? A few questions from me to you. What happened to Tremaine? Why hasn't he really held up to his first round grade? Can he rebound? What are the chances? Will money motivate him as he finishes up his current contract? Any insights on what Beane and the Bills brass think about Tremaine and his future in Buffalo? Could Tremaine be used as trade bait on draft day? Or before? This draft is fairly deep in LB talent, even on day 3. Should we move on or put our faith in Tremaine?

No, you're not wrong. The chances a player will be successful in the NFL go up, the closer you get to day 1. I'm sure there have been some analyses of this. Personally I'm thinking that the Bills might try to trade up in round TWO, and/or THREE this year, but not ONE, unless a player they have graded as a top 15 slips to 20 or so, and is a "must have, at the expense of giving up a valuable 3rd rounder for example.

I agree with what most have said above. Would rather draft a TE and see what happens with Knox this season. Hoping Knox takes another step UP, and we may get lucky with a draft pick on TE.

See that response I can respect and get behind more than the "i'm sorry what?" which was rather sarcastic. It's been a long long day... The troll comment was more meant for the "you DO know what voluntary means". Apologies.

I agree Newcam, buuuuuut there is another side of that coin. While it's nice to have more early round picks for hopeufully quality players, there is value to having as many picks as possible too! It's extremely difficult to "hit" on a draft pick and find a handful of players who will last longer than a rookie contract in the NFL. Cast a wide net with more picks, and use that practice squad to develop players (just another point to add here). Hopefully the scouts get it right more often than not.

There are other issues here. C'mon let's not be naive to the situation. And I'm not starting another back and forth with trolls. Have a nice evening.

Poyer is not participating in voluntary workouts, has changed agents, and wants a new contract. Beane stated he's focused on the draft and quote "can't pay everyone". There are some indications that this issue could persist until the start of the season, but of course, everyone's hoping it works out well for the team and for Poyer. I consider that a "holdout", but let's not split hairs on descriptions about what's going on here. mmkay?

Adding my weekly mock: With Poyer continuing to hold out, I went heavy on secondary in the first three rounds. Added a linebacker, Interior OL, a short yardage/goal line back, a DL sleeper pick (check this dude out!), as well as the "do everything" FB/TE/KR that I'm hoping for in Heyward. Love Kyle Phillips, arguably one of the best route runners and slot SR in this draft. Would love Ford in the 4th!

Sorry to bump this one up but I am wondering what the opinions are on the chances Poyer will be asking more money than the Bills are willing to sign him for, and if SAFETY, along with CORNERBACK are both going to be big questions going into the draft. I just have this gut feeling that Poyer will be holding out to start this season, and that could add even more of an issue for let's say the first month of the season. Some have talked about drafting a S/CB hybrid type player. I'm starting to wonder if we might be seriously considering players like Cine or Brisker (true safeties) in the first if the top Corners are gone..... Might we be looking at both a corner AND a safety in the top 3 rounds?? Starting to think so.

Good points. I guess the hope when they drafted him was to coach him to being less sloppy but his character just wouldn't allow it. Being an NFL football player is a privilege and I can't stand "attitude players". Send him to McDonalds for minimum wage.

Yeah with the exclusion of the Patriots, Dolphins or Jets...

Top corners and actual first-round-graded players drafted already when we picked at 25. Traded down and got two extra second rounders this year and gave up a 6th rounder this year and 4th next. CB Hill was the first pick, and I nabbed Brisker as INSURANCE/LEVERAGE with the Poyer situation. LB Chenal was a good value at 57 Didn't plan on taking two WR's back to back but that's what the board produced. Metchie can stretch the field, while Phillips adds slot competition Went OG in the 5th NT in the 6th Closed it out with a TE/FB/KR hybrid player (and personal late pick "hope")

On a superbowl contending team, you go BPA.... right? I know I know... cornerback etc.

Great RD1 Pick! WR Wilson is great value at 25 IMO.

He is playing at a fairly high level but on the wrong side of 30, you don't want to overpay for what he's DONE vs. what he can still DO. To me that includes his ability at his age to stay healthy, play every game, and play every game at a high level commensurate to his paycheque amount. Beane knows what he's doing saying that "right now he's focused on the draft" and that "he wants Poyer back". I think both statements are telling. He wants Poyer back "at the right dollar amount", but the draft might offer some leverage with Poyer's deal.

Preseason will be interesting to watch with these DB's.... There COULD be a leverage pick in an early round on a Safety. That sort of pick would decrease Poyer's ask.....