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This is totally a guess, but with 3 year/$24M $15M guaranteed, I think we'll find that breaks down to something like a $12M signing bonus with a void year ($3M/yr), vet min salary for >6 years of $1.2M, $0.8M of per-game roster bonuses so $5M cap hit. 2025, $3M salary for a $6M cap hit. 2026, $7M salary so $10M cap hit, but no new money guaranteed. If he's making good here at age 30, Bills will try to extend him. $2M of the reported $24M would be incentives for stuff like >1000 yd season, >80 receptions, pro bowl, all-pro, and so forth. So my guestimater would break it down as: 2022: $5M cap hit 2023: $6M cap hit 2024: $10M cap hit 2025: FA, $3M void year to extend signing bonus If I'm right-sh, that's a dang good deal for a player who has been solid and consistent and played mostly from the slot. WRT the statement up-thread that KC's contract for Marquise Brown is "better", that's gonna depend upon how you see it. Brown was a former 1st round pick who the Cards swapped a 1st round pick for, because he has the potential to be elite. He's had one VG season out of 5 so far. For his potential and pedigree, the Chiefs got him at a fire sale. 1 of 2 things will happen: 1) he lives up to his potential with Mahomes targeting him and the Chiefs either pay him the big bucks or watch him walk 2) he doesn't and they over-paid for his actual performance, as they did with MVS. It's kind of a high risk/high reward type thing. The Bills contract is more steady-eddy. They got a consistent performer who has spent much of his career with "meh" QBs or QB on the downhill slide, and locked up his services for several seasons at a fair price. He's unlikely to take over the field, but they could potentially get Beasley-like value from him for several seasons and he's unlikely to "bust" if he stays healthy. More of a high floor/low ceiling kind of thing.

Well, Samuel has been in the league 7 seasons, so both could be true - maybe he spent his first couple seasons predominantly out wide. I think it's most notable that he played 70% from the slot during his best (to date) season, with Joe Brady as his OC.

Later. Any team can sign him now, but he doesn't come off our cap until June 1.

I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but first, I'll look at the contracts to see what the details are - they usually aren't quite as initially reported. The fact is, Brown only caught half his targets last season and contributed 574 yds and 51 receptions. For Brown as a former 1st round pick, who AZ traded a 1st round pick to receive and paid $13.4M last season, that's kind of "bust" territory. Now there may be mitigating circumstances in having Murray and Joshua Dobbs throwing to him, but Murray was a #1 overall pick himself, and Dobbs played decently for 'Zona.

In part, that's called the "Superbowl Champion Discount". The Patriots and Brady used to get it, now KC will get it. But you're also sounding a little starry-eyed here. Brown followed-up his 1000+ yd season in 2021 with two "down" years in AZ where he got dinged, and last year only caught 50% of his targets in 14 games. I don't follow AZ enough to know what that means - were those balls thrown vaguely in his vicinity, did he not have good focus, or both? But the bottom line is, Brown is a former 1st round pick who bitched his way out of town with the Ravens, then underperformed for his 2nd team (who traded a 1st round pick for him). The Cardinals traded a 1st round pick and paid Brown $13M last season, and got 51 receptions for 574 yds from a guy who was on the field 85% of the snaps in 14 games. It makes perfect sense to me that it would be attractive to Brown to go to a pass-first offense captained by a great passing QB, and that he might take a discount to do it on a 1 year "prove it" deal and try to turn his career around. If it works out, he's going to want to get paid. Can you share your reasoning on why Brown is the better player, and (absent contract details) why the Chiefs have the better deal?

https://fox2now.com/news/national/750-pound-alligator-seized-from-new-york-home/ OK, which one of you scum-puppies did this?

Goodness!

Anstifter

FWIW I see it differently. We have a defense that, at least in past years, relied on the whole to be greater than the sum of its parts. Without elite athletes, everyone had to know their role and how it changed with the post-snap moves, which is indeed a matter of scheme and coaching. That choked the chicken of lesser teams and talents, but it allows elite players on the opponent's offense to exploit our tendencies and break big plays now and again. Without elite defenders, we occasionally got exposed. I personally think the solution is to invest in top talent playmakers on offense so we're not settling for 3 against the top teams.

I'm firmly in club "draft a WR early" But I do feel obliged to point out that, if we accept the premise that the most talented NFL-ready players are generally drafted in the first 3 rounds and therefore consider 5th round, pick 177 Puka Nacua a "unicorn" or rifle shot that the odds are low we replicate....the most successful WR in last year's draft was Rashee Rice, drafted in the 2nd round at pick 55. 2nd prize Jordan Addison, drafted in the 1st round at pick 23. The point being, you can't universally apply "drafted earlier = better".

Aged well

Because that's an ineffably superior use of time?

Yeah, pretty much something like that. I think Hodgins had been on the 53-man for a couple weeks. Tre' White had his 3 week window opened but 4 or 5 weeks later was still not "ready to play". I forget the details but around that time Benford missed a couple games and Elam had an injury, they needed to roster another DB. So Hodgins got cut and subjected to waivers, and the Giants pounced.

Thank you for your service. Calibration is complete.

I totally thought you were joking, so I had to look it up and...Dang. Pssssst....what if I told you that....the #5 or #6 WR must be able to play special teams? (that's why we signed Hollins to compete, and why Hodgins got told 'thanks for your service" by the G-men) You aren't wrong. Totes sarcasm from @JGMcD2

Typically, if a WR is someone you want starting in a WR3 role, he's either a talented rookie OR he's getting WR3 money (and snaps) from your team or someone else. It would be great to have last year's rookies step up and "get it" and contribute and chase Hollins off the team, but I don't understand why it's a problem to sign a guy who has managed to show he can put up lower-end #2 receptions and yards when given #2 reps and targets, and who has shown he can play ST in the NFL

Story time. I will assert under oath this is a totally made up story if called upon. A friend's brother is a retired LEO. 30+ years on the force, saw it all. Started on the beat, retired as a Major. Sister has a son who is That Kid. In his ?late 20s? 30?s? Family has spent a small fortune on various rehab treatments and strategies over the last decade+. After the most recent relapse, he was told he was not welcome in his mom's home while in active addiction, he had to go from rehab to sober living. Found car in her driveway full of empty alcohol containers, son in a puddle of piss passed out in his former room in her basement. (Locks had been changed but he found his way in). After an altercation in which kid offered to fight his two uncles (retired LEO is like "really? we're going to do this?"), current LEO were called and kid was taken away to city drunk tank. Now legally, that's kid's car and his property, and driving it without his permission is theft. But somehow, by some means, the car got moved to an "undisclosed location" and the keys are also in an "undisclosed location". As a retired LEO, Uncle has Seen what he's Seen. Relative driving drunk/injuring or killing someone, Just Not Happening on his watch.

It's a bit of a naive, credulous take to believe that Britt Reid's status as the son of a celebrity Superbowl winning head coach had nothing to do with Parson's decision to commute his sentence - assuming you actually do believe that and are not just here as a Chiefs fan trolling us. The statement "Britt served more time than average for his crime" was made by Parson's PR team to exculpate his actions in commuting Britt Reid's sentence, but has been disputed by the Kansas City Star. The reporter authoring the Star article requested and did not receive data supporting the Gov. Office claim. https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article286248105.html I don't know how one can support a take "No chance that Parsons is doing favors for the Chiefs" when he's an unabashed Chiefs fan, literally got a tattoo on his body last February commemorating in part the Chief's 57th Superbowl victory which he showed off when visiting their training camp https://www.facebook.com/GovMikeParson/posts/847652006731278?ref=embed_post He's not a fan of Kansas City or St Louis, but he is a big KC Chiefs fan.

I don't want to see Hamlin starting at Safety for the Bills, but you can f- right off with that statement.

OK, so in your opinion OBJ was overpaid, and in hindsight, looking at his performance, a case can be made for that. But the point here is market value and what some team with cap space is likely to offer to pay a former AP-1 OPOY WR. My case is that whether or not you think it's a good idea, a WR with Michael Thomas resume is unlikely to be available to the Bills on a $2-$3M deal at the start of FA.

When he signed a 2 year contract in Buffalo, it was clearly stated his intention was to "retire a Bill". I don't believe he wanted to be released. I do believe, depending upon who they sign, the Bills made the right move. If our starting safeties wind up as Taylor Rapp and Cam Lewis or Damar Hamlin, I'll think it's a mistake.

I don't know about mentally, but physically, yeah. But playing at least half his games in warm weather might help him there. Doesn't he already own a large house in the area and live there off-season? Ft Lauderdale?

Go Po! Missus must be delighted, she finally gets her red state. No, he was a FA or pending FA last season and he was very careful in what he said. Praised Tua and said he wanted to play in a state that "doesn't take half your salary in taxes" or something like that. I imagine at least twice a season, the answer will be "quite a lot". Bills offense better clean up their calls and mind their tells.

I guess we'll see who's right. In my observation, when a guy is a former OPOY with multiple pro-bowl and all-pro appearances, he'll have multiple suitors. And multiple suitors drives up the price. OBJ was coming off injury and hadn't put up numbers for years - since 2019. He got vet minimum salary in his deal, true - but he also got $14M signing bonus paid up front, and carries a modest $4-$5M cap hit. For which he put up modest numbers of 35 receptions for 560 yds.

He may well make the roster as a gunner/STer 5th or 6th WR - why would you have a problem with that? He's shown he can produce more with a good QB throwing to him than most #5 or 6 WR do.