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It's Tampering! Slay/Rosenhaus spoke with Philly about being claimed. Do you really believe "I don't want to go to Buffalo because it's cold" or "I don't want to uproot my family" nonsense. You know what Slay didn't say is "I wanted to play in Philly or retire". Any guesses as to why he didn't say that?

No, I'm not going to be mad at the system. It's Slay/Rosenhaus + Philly's tampering that annoys me. Slay/Rosenhaus were not thinking he was going to clear waivers, they knew Philly would be putting in a claim, and they did. Slay wanted to play for Philly and Rosenhaus thought he had a way for him to do it. What they didn't expect was for anyone else to claim him. And when the surprise Buffalo claim happened, Slay quit. Do you really buy his story that it's cold in Buffalo, so he'll retire instead? C'mon. (the guy had played for Philly and then Pitt). It's not hard to connect the dots - Slay wanted to play for Philly, asked for help from Rosenhaus, who talked with Philly. Asked for and received a release from Pitt and was waived. This scenario is what they don't want happening, and they call it tampering. Clear as day to me and I don't like it. I can't see how you don't see it, how the league doesn't see it, and how Philly + Rosenhaus can get away with it without penalty. It's incredibly obvious tampering.

What frustration? And yes, there was a rift between Diggs and his jealousy of Allen prior to J Brady taking over. Diggs didn't like the FO consulting with Allen. Diggs wanted to be on the diva level of say D Adams who claimed to be in on the coaching and QB decisions w the Raiders. My theory is the rift grew, not just w Allen but the team, exponentially when Brady took over. We all saw the lack of effort and Diggs taking himself out.

If he didn't want to play he could have just retired. But no, he thought he could get the same amount of money playing in a place where he preferred to go. And Rosenhaus arranged it. When it didn't go as planned, Slay quit. Pretty cut and dry tampering if you ask me. Hell, people here were upset Beane didn't go and talk to find out if Slay would play here - which is not the way this is supposed to work. Do you think it would be alright if Cincy now waived Flacco because they had assurances that the Chargers would pick up his contract?

The main factor in the Diggs drama was the J Brady decision. Diggs clearly did not want J Brady - everyone eats is not what Diggs wanted. Diggs started his internal protest during the half year J Brady was in charge - half hearted routes when the ball was not going to go to him, and taking himself out on third downs - all while not even injured (most here thought Diggs had some type of injury we would find out about - never happened). At seasons end Diggs gave a J Brady or me ultimatum. The FO went with J Brady.

I would hope the league gives out a penalty to Philly (+maybe Rosenhaus). What a joke of an excuse. What they did is not what the waiver process is about. You are not supposed to be able to slide out of one team over to a contender of your choice because that other team has a need. No one (outside of Slay/Rosen) want the process to work that way. The fact that their little stunt cost the Bills roster moves should be relevant to the penalty assessed. I am hoping the Bills are processing this complaint through the league channels.

And a second rounder vs first round has a different extension schedule. I thought it was signaling a higher floor - lower ceiling player - which fit the McConkey hype and not the Coleman profile (Coleman had less time at the position and was considered more of the athlete that needed training). Didn't mean it wouldn't work out - they moved down several times before taking Cook. But Coleman is starting to look like he could be a huge miss. The FO just needed a WR2 out of the pick and right now they don't have that, IMO. G Davis is beating Coleman out.

You're claiming the regime is leaning away from Josh but it can easily be explained. The Diggs situation brought about a unique situation. They did draft Coleman - and I think he was slated as WR2. They brought in A Cooper, so last year they weren't leaving Allen totally bare. The last offseason was a miss on WR. The ugly Palmer deal. But once again tried to rectify it early season. This WR group would be much better with Waddle here. Beane said he tried. It could have been their plan all along that failed to materialize. So the alledged second window has really only been two years and in one of those years they did bring in A Cooper.

IMO, the sooner they start doing it the better - but it probably won't happen, at least not this year. I think the Bills FO might be getting too caught up in the "we paid him $12M, we have to use him" philosophy. R Davis may have slimmed down in the offseason in the hopes of a J Cook holdout, and Davis would get the RB1 gig. Wish we had a sure handed, non-fumbling bruiser for the short yardage role. But I kind of think both Josh and Cook kind of like the TDs.

This is a recurring sentiment here, that the Bills have recently somehow been failures. That there aren't good seasons unless a Superbowl is involved. See above, many posters now seemingly discount the regular season. A season is considered by some a failure unless a Superbowl is involved. And we're seeing this as good teams/coaches/QBs are struggling to get in this year.

I was with you until you suggested that they should have called J Allens number - no. Stop that until it matters. All the talk about it being a "must win" game was just blather - using the "must win" moniker was much more relevant to Cincy. They should make R Davis the short yardage back. Increasing the role for R Davis not only reduces the wear and tear on Cook and Allen) but also better prepares Davis for a larger role if needed (it is a long season -look how many RBs go down).

That's kind of a contrarian way to look at it. If Reid/mahomes, Burrow/Taylor, Harbaugh/Jackson, Shotty/Dak, Campbell/Goff don't even make it to the Playoffs it would seem McD making it again would be thought of in a more positive light. The plan had been get many bites at the apple - they are doing that. The more shots the better the odds that one will hit. Looks like another attempt is going to happen this year whereas it won't be happening in Dallas (and maybe not in Detroit, KC, and even Baltimore). If McD didn't make the post-season it would not be better for him, not at all.

I agree with you, and really don't understand how people look at it much differently. Beane has done well overall and people really need to compare him to other GMs and not to their own version of perfection. All GMs make draft mistakes, all teams have some weaknesses. As to the WR problem. It is more recent than forever - remember at one point we had Diggs/Brown/Beasley. The real surfacing of this fiasco has been post-Diggs. I don't even think Coleman was meant to be a WR1, he just needed to be WR2. Getting the FA A Cooper was meh. And one of the worst moves, IMO, was the Palmer deal - was he really thinking that was WR1 material? Maybe Beane thought it was a stop gap until he did another in-season trade (ala Cooper but only a little better this time) I think Beane might be feeling a little heat to get JA a top tier WR, and that's a good thing (Beane's public admission to trying for Waddle was telling IMO). I hope the pressure is such that it results in bringing in a proven WR (not the hope of a draft pick). I think it will, Beane is a smart GM. Not to get ahead of ourselves but the off-season will be exciting in that regard.

I agree it's a bad look on Beane but not because Ingram > Slay - no, that is just crazy talk. But it is bad because we lost Ingram. But to Beane's credit you don't just let Slay move from toasted Pitt over to starting for a contender. The Bills play Philly at least once more this season and Beane is not letting this happen.

It's an opinion expressed IMO with undue optimism when stated as "will probably make the playoffs if they win out". When in actuality you mean they might be able to squeak out winning their division if they win out and a lot of things break their way.

You think the Bengals would make the playoffs at 9 and 8? I don't think so. A win here does not salvage their season IMO, they are done.

I think he will. Beane can feel the mood. He has already distanced himself from the radio disaster by saying he was trying for Waddle - normally he doesn't talk about failed trade attempts. I don't trust the drafting process for the next good WR. I want him to get a proven vet. And I hope he soesn't try and cheap out - the A Cooper over D Adams. It is a little tricky now though because I don't think they want a 10 target prima donna.

Of course you’re not going to count Kincaid because you want a stat that makes Beane look bad. To see how useless this stat is we need look no further than it has the Bucs- with M Evans, C Godwin, and E Ebuka at the bottom. When healthy probably one of the top three WR rooms in the league. I agree with your overall point that the WR’s should be better and Beane needs to upgrade. I think he will. And I hope Beane doesn’t try and do it through the draft but instead FA (or a Diggs like combo) to get a proven commodity.

This reads like a made up stat to make Beane look bad. Beane spent a 1st on Diggs, a 1st on Kincaid, and used his first pick one year on Coleman. While Beane has been struggling w WRs since the Diggs debacle, he did bring in A Cooper and tried for Waddle. I would anticipate Beane making a huge effort this offseason to bring in a name WR.

I agree Beane is tied into the WR problem. But the amount of heat he gets for letting the radio guy get under his skin gets taken out of proportion IMO. Beane pretty much alluded to the WR as a problem by publically stating he tried for Waddle. Then signed Cooks. Beane didn't do well in addressing the WR problem left by the Diggs debacle. But it looks like he is going to try and do something about it.

If we're playing the "what if" game, how about: If the Bills win the Superbowl will TBD be able to vet the posters who can rationally discuss if this is the greatest era ever for the Bills? It seems some should be excluded from the discussion because of an incredible bias. Here we are "half-jokingly" discussing replacing the staff after winning an important away game with an understaffed, injured roster. An outstanding coaching game from all angles -offense, defense, motivation...and yet here we are in an OP talking about replacements? The Bills are in the mix once again as a Superbowl contender and here we are with posters hoping they lose.

The one I would like an explanation on, was the one where Pitt got the ball at the 25. Seemed like a similar situation where the Bills were penalized but then intentionally kicked the ball out of bounds. Romo said the rule would be revised at the end of the year.

DK Metcalf to Pitt.. G Pickens to Dallas.

Maybe not impossible but extremely, Extremely, improbable. And yes there are plenty of things to hold him accountable for, but many of those those things are positive.

"IF"...c'mon man. How exactly is a top 5 GM moved on from? Missing the Playoffs, maybe?...And does anyone really think that is happening. Yes, I agree with some frustration over the WR position (I wanted DK Metcalf bad). I hope Beane finds an excellent WR1 - either by trade or FA (Pickens is a possibility although a slight head case). But Beane does have a choice, and his job is not in jeopardy, and the season hasn't been wasted, and it isn't over. So, yeah, like wow.