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Dumpster diving on former high draft picks that haven’t succeeded as a general rule is always a reasonable strategy imo. If you can get the upside to hit, you end up with solid starter+ vs developing an UDFA over 2-3’s whose upside is like decent backup/spot starter.

Okay what does it mean? It means that the psychological advantage I believe KC has had and still has over us in the postseason is lessened. Had we lost to KC? I think this team and this locker room would have that hanging over their head the rest of the season, especially right before the bye. I also think it helped us schematically. We know that even with an injured Cooper and the rag tag bunch at receivers we trotted out, we saw some weak spots in their defense. Cooper himself had a few MASSIVE catches with one working hand. we exposed some flaws. Now, if KC decides to do less single coverage on Cooper, and Coleman/Kincaid can come back healthy, that opens up some room to work. We also saw OCT go toe to toe with a future HoFer in Chris Jones and hold his own. After his rough start to the year, that’s gotta be tremendous for his confidence as a young player. From a Ravens perspective, we saw that they successfully attacked our second level of LBers and S’s to great success. They had Dorian and Spector and Hamlin spinning like tops out there. Schematically, we adjusted and did quite a bit better, but next time we may not have to wait. Hopefully neither of Williams or Spector will be out there when we face them again, and we’ll have Taron backing them up as well, so if they try that same gameplan again, they will be due for a surprise imo. Ultimately, I don’t fear the Ravens as much because I don’t see a reason to fear Lamar in the postseason thus far in his career. We have learned some things from these teams that we have played and will play again. Will gameplans change come playoffs? Sure, they can. To pretend they mean nothing is ignorant. Just don’t bother watching til the playoffs start if weeks 1-18 don’t matter.

I disagree. i think being the only team to beat KC, our biggest rival who is probably the single biggest reason Josh doesn’t have at least one if not multiple SB’s at this point means a lot. I think succeeding where other playoff teams in our conference failed means a lot. I also think that having our wheels beat off by the Ravens in primetime means a lot too. For us and for them. I don’t like that matchup on its face come postseason time. You are happy to feel differently and welcome to attempt to “do what I do to others” as poorly as you’d like.

Okay fine. I won’t be optimistic because we are the only team to beat the two time defending SB champs. You win. We looked awful vs the Ravens and the Texans, so really there’s nothing to be positive about when we will likely need to play 2/3 of them again to make the SB. Happy?

You don’t have to kiss the ring. You can appreciate it as a quality win against our biggest rival.

There’s also a reason they traded a 3rd round pick for Douglas after Elam got roasted vs Jacksonville lol Forbes has no shot tbh. He was previously very bad. Now with a new HC and defense and they decided he wasn’t worth sticking with MIDSEASON. Massive red flag after red flag of a dude who was probably over drafted by 2 rounds. No thanks.

GOOOOOO BUCKS Maybe spend some of that NIL money on a QB every once in a while

Ho lee *****. i have explained this multiple times. The Chiefs win is the biggest win on our schedule thus far. Demeaning them as “frauds” after the fact lessens how big that win was, and I don’t agree with it. We saw that team look WORSE last year and flip a switch in the postseason. This year, they were undefeated when we faced them, and had beaten some pretty good teams along the way, like the Ravens and the Chargers, and basically played a part in ending the Bengals year before it could begin who have a great QB in Burrow. If we had lost to this iteration of the Chiefs, it would have sucked. It would have been more evidence they are a class above even if they weren’t playing their best ball, and we would feel a step below with teams like Houston and the Ravens. So now because we WON, I won’t demean them as a team when that lessens how we should feel about our Bills. The Ravens are miserable they couldn’t get the Chiefs. The Bengals are miserable they couldn’t get the Chiefs. We should be glad we did and glad we won that game, not calling them frauds who are first round exit bound. Because, again, what does that make us if they are frauds and aren’t as good as a team like the Ravens? Does that make us 2nd or 3rd in the conference? Lower? Again, in your haste to try to dunk on me by confusing the AFC West with the NFC West (blocked by James!) you didn’t realize I was defending the BILLS. Now GO GET YOUR ***** SHINEBOX

Now go get your ***** shinebox.

I didn’t respond to you. You ENGAGED me when I was addressing a poster who called them “fraudulent.” If you spent more time reading the posts you respond to instead of trying (and failing) to dunk on me, you wouldn’t have this issue so often. The Chiefs. 1000%

So basically the argument is the best win on our schedule is against a team playing “mediocre football,” who are “running on fumes” and aren’t “screaming championship team.” I don’t agree. Chiefs are the team to beat until proven otherwise. I will call them mediocre frauds if they blasted in their first playoff game and not before.

Not sure I agree with that. Seattle has to play Cardinals, Packers, Rams, Vikings. Cardinals have Seattle, Vikings, Rams, Niners left. Both have a 1 game lead on the Niners and Rams right now. I don’t know who wins that division to be honest. I don’t think any of them are “very very likely” to make it.

They have. By the end of the season? I don’t know. Right now, it’s KC and MAYBE the NFCW winner of AZ/Seattle and pending Niners game (only one of those teams will make it). I think Ravens/Texans will both make the playoffs too. Only Detroit is left as a playoff team on our schedule. So yeah, I don’t understand talking down a victory over the two time defending champ who was undefeated until they faced us. KC is and was arguably the toughest game on our schedule and they are definitely a playoff team.

We played the Chargers? Am I blanking?

They are the only team that we have beaten that will most likely be in the 2024 playoffs, aren’t they?

Correct. it was obvious that the plan was not being executed at that point. You can blame Caleb but he’s a rookie QB. If you aren’t going to burn a TO to prevent your rookie QB from messing up the end of game situation, when are you? The more I think about, I think the Flus has probably gotten into his own head a bit about end game management. Was probably crossing his mind “how is the media gonna react if i call this TO now.” Not blaming him, it’s human nature. But that’s when the show is over.

which makes our only win against a playoff team (them) mean exactly what about the 2024 Bills

The Dolphins haven’t been a rival in a long time. Division rival, sure. But we have one rival in the NFL and it ain’t the PHINs.

Head coach’s job is to save rookie QB from himself

I FIXED IT

who could have seen this coming

I think there’s a really good argument that Daboll is not HC material. His operation has really suffered the last two years, but that happens to even good coaches when the lockerroom loses faith. I think he’s a good offensive coach tho. @BADOLBILZ is just waiting to annihilate me for that take as he always does, but I’m still firm.

Frazier had multiple All-Pros. Not saying he can’t coach or gets no credit but that affects the view. Is there a player currently on the 2024 Bills defense that will have an All-Pro nod in the next 2 seasons? Outside of TJ who has already missed significant time. I think getting JAGs like Cam Lewis and Ingram to be net positives on the roster is weighed like turning Micah Hyde, a a good player, into an All-Pro tbh. All that being said, there’s only so much blood you can get from that stone. Turning guys like Cam Lewis into an All-Pro is not a coaching issue. It’s a talent issue. And that’s why this defense, imo, is weaker than it has been.

They make their money regardless. It’s not like the Jets are in the red. The MLB is a bit different with no salary cap, but by the same token, the disparity of owners who vote to win with their wallet are obvious.

That’s fair but we can also call a spade a spade. They are 10th in points per drive, 18th in yards per drive, 21st in plays per drive and 23rd in time per drive. They are above average at best. That’s still above average, but the worst since 2020 in basically every category. And yes, a lot of that has to do with guys like Williams and Hamlin starting, no doubt. I think the best thing we have going for us is that Babich is kind of a wild X factor. This D still has McD fingerprints but new DC means maybe we roll out some wrinkles KC or Baltimore isn’t prepared for. There’s reason for hope. I think our best chance to beat a team like KC in the postseason that has had our number historically is a coaching/strategic change that they may not expect.