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It’s hard to spin, “you’re wrong.”

Topics like these are consistently my favorite. Like that wonderful Zay Jones Stats topic.

The Bills haven’t beaten the Pats once in the McD era and Brady is jumping ship because he’d rather face the New Orleans Saints twice a year, a team that has gone 13-3 the last two seasons with Drew Brees at the helm? Come on man.

I would bet they didn’t enter into the equation at all. He went to a division with Drew Brees and Matt Ryan In it.

Josh Allen threw a guy through a table like 2 months ago. Also:

Jameis said he took a paycut.

God forbid kids are actually interested in the Bills. College players don't care about Chuck Knox or Jim Kelly, surprisingly.

I think you got that backwards. McCarthy let Rodgers do whatever he wants. He certainly wasn't an incredible coach, but not the worst you can do. Biscuit, what you have to understand is that the Pack have a new GM/HC combo. These guys weren't here in 2014. You are arguing they are giving up on Rodgers too early. You could be right. They have evaluated their roster and made their picks accordingly. I don't think they had a stellar draft myself, but when you saw how they got absolutely dismantled in the postseason, it's hard to argue Tee Higgins is going to make or break them next season, and they took Love to secure a successor. Should they have drafted a receiver in the 4th? Probably. Do I think Gabe Davis on the Packers really makes a difference? No. You can get receivers who contribute at that level day one off the scrap heap.

I don’t remember saying he was holding them back. He just isn’t as good as he used to be. This happens to every QB that plays. Some folks try to pretend Father Time won’t come for their favorite QB, but he always does.

If only Tee Higgins was in at safety for this game. The game might have ended in the third Q instead of at half.

Taysom Hill had 7 TD's last year. That's more than any skill position player on the Bills in 2019. Not including the QB, obviously.

And in the two years prior, he was 10-12-1 as a starter. Aaron Rodgers wasn't Aaron Rodgers of old and he hasn't been for some time. I don't care about mock drafts (lol) or the ProBowl (lol). He and Brady are both on the same "still a very good game manager" decline. In 2019, Rodgers posted the third worst passer rating of his career, despite winning 13 games. He hasn't had a passer rating >100 (where his career average is) since 2016. His TD% hasn't been above 5 in 2 years (his career avg is 6.0). ' The evidence is abounding that Rodgers just ain't the same player anymore. Folks are acting like 2014 was yesterday, and it just wasn't.

He would have led the Bills' skill position players in TD's last year.

Drafting players high in the second round is not settling for trash. Nelson was 3 picks away from the first round. If they traded up and took him at 32 instead of 36 would you change your take? Rodgers is approaching being done. I wasn't surprised they weren't swinging for the fences this offseason. Just like I wasn't surprised the Pats weren't trading firsts to help Brady. Their windows are closing, not opening.

The 2011 Seahawks only drafted CB's in the fifth and sixth round to help their secondary. Does it matter who the players turned out to be, or did they neglect their secondary by not investing higher picks (and thus different players) in it?

??? Jordy Nelson left GB after multiple injuries at 33 years old, for Oakland. You don't tear off 1500 yards receiving without being a talented player. Aaron Rodgers himself wouldn't agree with this take. So Adams was "awful" with Rodgers throwing to him and now he's good with Rodgers throwing to him? So if his QB didn't change, maybe he became a better player? GB's biggest problem since Rodgers has been there is their one-dimensional pass game. They can't run and they can't stop anybody. How does drafting WR's or trading first round picks for WR's help them? So they can lose more games 45-44? Incredibly, building a defense doesn't count as helping your QB. Building an OL doesn't count as helping your QB. Building a run game doesn't count as helping your QB. Rodgers continues to get a pass for being a less personable Peyton Manning. The argument they haven't invested in Rodgers' WR group is just not true. They got fine players for Rodgers, and still never sniffed a second SB.

Yes. Furthermore, no one actually cares if the player knows it or not when its apparent to everyone else.

Yeah, they just got him Jordy Nelson, who was a star, Davante Adams, who is a star, and Randall Cobb, who was a star, all in the second round. #WillSomeoneHelpRodgers?

It’s funny, imagine if Tavon Austin was coming out of college now. The NFL sure has changed.

Excellent post. I will go a step further and say they have sent a message loud and clear to Rodgers. This is not a Mike McCarthy do whatever you want regime. Your talent no longer demands us do everything to make sure you are happy. If he sulks and acts like a clown, he will have no one to blame for their dysfunction but himself.

Brady wasn’t talking about retiring and the Pats spent a second and third on QB’s. The new Packers are not the old Packers. Rodgers gets the biggest pass for being a HoF talent with 1 Super Bowl. And now he’s in decline. Peyton Manning wishes he got this kind of pass.

Perfect for a departure, ease Love in and if he isn’t elite right away, maybe they get lucky and sign him to a cheapish deal.

I disagree.

Sometimes, the team needs to see the QB run over a defender as a spark. Josh Allen for all his faults, is more than willing to provide that spark if necessary, and he rules for that.

Where does Cam Newton come into this topic?