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As a corollary, when the Bengals were bad, they drafted Burrow, Chase and Higgins. when the Bills were bad, we drafted Josh, Edmunds, Oliver, Ford. Not that the Bengals are elite drafters, but they did far better maximizing those picks before their run started. But that’s Beane’s game. He’s got an excuse ready to go. It was COVID’s fault we had limited cap space past 2020, not him overpaying stiffs like Star Loutoto. the Bills win too many games to draft superstars, except that year where we won 6 games, drafted the fifth best DT of the first round in the top ten, and drafted a total bust in the top of the second that he would turn around and trade for a fifth 2 years later. Two years from now he’ll probably say we don’t have cap space because we retained Rousseau and Bernard, but ignore the two JAGs he overpaid for that imo have limited chance of living up to their contracts. It’s far easier being a GM when you tear a team down and aren’t paying anybody. You can sign 6 OL FAs and cut/trade whoever underperforms and eat their dead money. It’s harder when the belt tightens.

Yeah but Beane literally said “we aren’t bad enough to pick a Jamar Chase.” He’s wrong. We were bad enough. He just didn’t pick a superstar. He picked Ed Oliver.

I mean KC and SF were both in the Super Bowl the year before and both continued to mange to make multiple conference championships and Super Bowls after. I’m sure Covid affected their team building strategy too. I’m also sure Beane has tried to make excuses. He made a similar hilarious excuse that’s it’s not his fault we aren’t drafting stars in the top 10, except we did draft in the top 10 and he just didn’t draft stars. Wentz was 11-2 as a starter in 2017 and they won the SB after he went down for injury. Anyone saying he wasn’t important for that SB season is just wrong. If Josh went down after week 13 and the Bills won a Super Bowl, you would build Beane a shrine in your closet.

Do we think Philly got extra first round picks by magic or because their GM made some shrewd trades?

This forum is finicky. last year, I started a topic about Josh’s turnovers and said if he cuts them down, he’s probably the undisputed best QB in the league and we win more games. I got annihilated for even saying that. This season, he cuts them down, he wins MVP, and we get the closest to a SB appearance in his career. You just gotta let the takes fly and brave the slings and arrows. It’s because there’s two lines of thoughts. ”Brandon beane is good because he did X, Y, Z.” That’s fine but what is the definition of good? Someone agreeing with a move? Why do they agree? ”Brandon Beane is good because I would stack his resume against every current GM in the NFL and he would rank anywhere from 3 to 7.” there’s at least some comparison there and that makes it more valid to me Imo. i really just think 90% of the folks on the board don’t pay attention to the NFL at large and thus have no basis for comparison of what is “good” or “bad”

Fox Sports has him at 13 over the last 3 years on low volume targets.

Obviously Roseman is going nowhere. To me, it’s more a litmus test of if you know ball. If you feel really strongly that Brandon Beane is a better GM than Roseman, I just exclude your opinion entirely.

Howie Roseman won a Super Bowl with that bust QB lol what

Taron Johnson was targeted like Elam vs the Lions and Rams. He got cooked

What do you mean? Levi bounced around the league as a role player after being an UDFA. Tre lost his career with injuries and age. Dane got a decent contract in FA last year. Is the argument McD can’t coach up CB’s because his last 6 of them aren’t perennial All Pros scattered all over the league?

Covid only happened in Orchard Park?

Imagine thinking this is a defense for Beano

Howie wasn’t picking players the entire time he was there lol. Reid and Chip both had their moments where they were in charge of personnel.

We more than doubled Shakir’s targets and he had 200 more yards than last year. thats why he cost only 15. I think Beane would’ve been very happy for Shakir to have had 1400 yards instead.

Grigson and Pagano. Pagano was a better HC than Grigson was a GM but Grigson nailed the QB pick