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sure, but doesn’t Watson’s off the field history also make him a ridiculous gamble for the Browns? Yes, if Watson does something similar again (allegedly), the Browns most likely would not be on the hook to pay him out (because he’ll be suspended or outright banned from the league). But they would still be back at square one, with no QB, and having F*ed the market up, for nothing. Honestly I hope that happens.

Honestly, that’s a big part of it I’d bet. And, while we can debate which one is actually the better QB, Lamar, to his credit: 1. Has the better W-L record (yes I know wins are team stats, not QB stats); 2. Has an MVP; 3. Isn’t a complete scumbag.

I honestly don’t know why they didn’t negotiate in earnest after season 3. Maybe he rightly suspected the deals would start to get nutty if he waited another year (they did.) that could have also been a mistake on his part sure, since the more he played into that rookie deal, the more risk of injury (which also happened.)

I think they most certainly were a well run org when Newsom was calling all the operational shots. Not sure that’s so true now with DeCosta. (Yes I know Newsom is still there at the VP level.)

don’t think that was an option under the rules bud. Drafted rookies have to wait until after their 3rd season to start to negotiate a new deal (as I understand it.) EDIT: ”Renegotiations: Rookie contracts for drafted players can't be renegotiated or altered in any way until after the last regular-season game of the third contracted year. Undrafted rookies must wait until after their second season to amend a contract. Any rookie contract that is renegotiated or extended in any way is no longer considered a rookie contract and is not restricted by the rules governing such contracts.” https://www.nfl.com/_amp/2023-nfl-free-agency-explainer-vital-information-on-franchise-tags-contract-term

Yep. The fact that some people are arguing “well, shoulda took the $133M” is ludicrous.

that’s basically it. Is Jackson probably overvaluing himself? Sure. He’s far from the only one. Not a knock against him. I hit on it earlier in the thread and you just reiterated it - Jackson is in the crosshairs simply because the owners are adamant against reinforcing the precedent set by Cleveland. Doing another deal similar to that completely opens the floodgates as it relates to top-tier QBs. Jackson’s timing couldn’t be worse, in simpler terms. He seems quite willing to stick to his guns however, so good for him.

Eh, doesn’t seem like a complete troll account, but certainly not anything I’d call credible. When you see someone with as many followings as followers, that’s a red flag on twitter. Mean’s they do a lot of “you follow me I’ll follow you” stuff. they appear to be something like that yes. Or they’re closer to Trainwreck sports, which in that case don’t believe a word of it.

And kept Hines.

knowing them, they’ll probably just sign 4 more tight ends.

and yet still posted a respectable ypc.

hynes is gone - they aren’t going to give him $5mil or whatever his number is. I did look at all of them - yes he had 12 TDs of 1-3 yards out.

is that a serious question? Why wouldn’t they be?

as hilarious as this sounds on its face, given that we’re talking about an NFL owner, this ABSOLUTELY tracks and I would be unsurprised if true.

based on pass catching ability alone, he’s a better option than singletary.

well that’s nuts.

how is Love guaranteed to get big money though? If and when they roll him out there and he sucks, they’re not going to pay him just because they drafted him. IF he does well, then sure - you had a season to evaluate him and he looks like a keeper and they pay him. So why not? You’re hung up on this is “elite QB on a rookie deal” thing as a key to success and it’s just not. It’s nice, sure, but not a prerequisite.

All true. And which one costs a lot less? awesome dude.

and Derrick Henry, whom several people here would apparently give up their left gonad for, averaged 4.4. 100% agreed. Great post Alpha.

I agree but don’t some people want him running less? I mean I could look that up. Or you could

I think someone will buck the trend and pull the trigger on Bijan somewhere between picks 15-20

For whatever reason he was a TD machine. Why not.

Other GMs, other teams should absolutely not follow suit. That doesn’t mean Jackson or advocates for Jackson or similarly situated QB’s shouldn’t go for their absolute max value, which, sorry to say it, the Watson deal influences. Again, I don’t care who LJ eventually signs with or for what $$$. I just take pause at broke jagoffs on a message board trying to drag this kid for being “greedy” and save billionaires some money. Y’all ain’t getting a cut of the savings and it doesn’t affect the Bills at all. the market dictates what it dicates - the watson deal is part of that. “but..but..but…Cleveland shouldn’t count because their owners…[insert reasons here].” So what. Have you read what Dan Snyder has done? What Jerral Jones has been accused of? they’re all crooks. But let’s overlook this particular crookery, because I think this guy ain’t worth what he’s asking. Again, bootlickers. All of you.

I can’t “prove” your opinions wrong bud. But if you think, if you actually think that what I bolded above from your post is in any way how that world of multimillion dollar negotiation works, then you don’t know **** sorry. The precedent is most certainly set with Herbert, Burrow, et al. And they will be asking for more than Jackson, more than Watson. All you’re doing is assuming the ownership position. “That Watson contract was BS.” You don’t even consider the retort. These previous deals, they matter. Everything’s a bargaining chip. Every good advocate uses them. And they certainly don’t care if they came from the most ######ed owner in the room.

not at all buddy I’m just a nobody that does his research and knows what he’s talking about. U got anything to add of substance? didn’t think so.