Mikie2times

Agree, I have not seen any reason to believe we somehow roll over the Bengals. Even now, I would rather play KC or really anybody else. It's a team we have yet to beat, bad match up for us and KC.

I think a lot of fans are actually the opposite of you which is why this is harder than 13 seconds. I think most of us came out of 13 seconds with a lot of hope. Sure, we lost in horrific fashion but Allen emerged as a truly elite player. The Bills were the talk of the town in many respect. We expected to be the Super Bowl champs the next year. I mean really expected it. So it was a little bit easier to dust yourself off and see the bright side. With this loss I don't know where we go from here. We have earned the reputation for not closing in the postseason which is especially bad because it makes you question the validity of the 17 games you watch to get to that point. So next year if we field a top 5 defense how many think it will actually carry over? I will be hesitant to say the least. Then as you point out we had so much opportunity this year. Next year we likely have to contend with Stroud, possibly even Herbert, Burrow will be back, KC likely spends on some resources for Mahomes. So yes, for me this one is much harder mostly because it's harder to find the positive. It will come, just not yet.

It's funny. So many wide right memes and jokes from colleagues. I'm just thinking, the kick didn't even matter. Literally a 0% chance the Chiefs don't get into FG range if he makes it. They were averaging almost 10 yards a play.

These guys are together. I also think they would struggle in the divisional round.

Burrow, Jefferson, Chase, Marshall, Edwards-Helaire. The top two WR are all pros, 3rd WR was a 2nd round pick. RB was a 1st round pick. QB is an all pro. It’s a better offense than most NFL teams have. He ran into the most talented offense in college football the last 20+ years. You can take from that what you wish. He was part of a bad talent, bad team with Carolina. Then he had Allen for half a season. He has done about what you would expect with talent he has been given. I don’t think he has done far better or far worse for that matter. I’m sure he wasn’t turning down jobs for being an OC before he joined the Bills. So largely unwanted prior to this stint with Buffalo. Safe and not overly inspiring. Disappointing we didn’t at least kick the tires a bit but not surprising.

Prefer zombie nation if we are going back 20 years

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Our defensive scheme is meant to defend against our offensive scheme. I'm not overly concerned, but I'm also not celebrating.

I don't think he is better, he is different and I like his different. To me the CBS team wants to turn everything into some magical feel good story. I just don't like that style any more.

The Fox A team is much better than the CBS A team and they would also win in a fight

I like what Josh is doing the last half of the year. I think the offense has played poorly in some of these instances, but it's more of a contrarian style view to what the obvious reason is. More than anything, I just feel no hope with McD. When you post #1 or #2 defenses, play a team multiple times. I mean when can we enter a game vs KC or Cinci and ever be thinking it will be different? What could possibly make somebody feel that way at this point. I Hate our scheme. Any variation of the Tampa 2, fast, smaller, zone, can go bleepity bleep. It folds like a cheap deck against good teams.

I actually appreciated you making that point. I had forget how the Colts game actually fit into this sample. I also mistitled it as opposed to leaving teams out intentionally. I tried to capture how these teams that killed us did against other teams. So we could see EPA relative to us and them. In the case of most the other games those teams didn't play anybody else. So I kept the analysis on just the teams that booted us to keep it uniform. Not to mention, I don't care about the Patriots, Steelers, or Thompson led Dolphins. If you have eyes you know we don't struggle against those teams. Those are not the teams preventing us from getting further. So you look at the teams that are doing that. Not exactly rocket science.

That was no doubt a really bad call. I figure most the communication is about him going for it and well, that's just who he is. Nothing is changing it. It's also what the analytics say is the right move. So I guess I cut him more slack over those calls even if they wouldn't have been mine.

I mean, Campbell called the game the same way as he did all season. The analytics said go and that's what he did. I agree it wasn't a move I would make, but this idea of this being his 13 seconds is a bit silly. He was completely aware of what he was doing, would do it again, and especially in the case of the first one, would have converted pretty easily.

16-0

Wait...you didn't ask Santa for a 49ers vs Chiefs Super Bowl?

Downright sexy analogy.

NFL fixers got to Reynolds. He's at the heart of the entire conspiracy.

The Lions are playing like me after I'm down $100 and had 8 drinks

Yup. You take a two TD+ lead if presented.

Lake Erie for 3 of the 4

Lions are historically Billsy, lets see how this goes