Mikie2times

It's been my contention the whole time. Do we have an excellent culture? Yes. Do we have a rare consistency that we can credit, at least, in part, to our leadership? Yes. But these concepts never become reality without winning and doing so with consistency. How many equivalent or similar GM/Coach combo's have never been able to focus on process or culture because the QB is a revolving door and they can't remain above .500? This started with Josh more than anything else and it will end with Josh. That doesn't throw shade on the work those two guys have done, but some people feel the whole thing falls apart if they aren't here. No, it falls apart if 17 is not here and that's not giving Josh too much credit. He can generate production based on his individual skills like no player in NFL history.

We have debated this before, but as happy calls out, I think the great ones will be great anywhere. Perhaps coaching and circumstance allow that to come together sooner. But these guys we are seeing boomerang are not the very best. They will ultimately prove to be starting caliber and sometimes really good QB's. Take Allen for example. He started his rookie year as all these guys did and did so for a perennial loser. His QB whisperer was a guy in New York who couldn't make Daniel Jones work and now it appears like Jones could be the next Boomerang QB. I'm sure Dabs helped Josh, but I'm more sure Josh helped himself with Jordan Palmer and the rebuild of his mechanics. You have called out how much McD is responsible for Allen. Allen was inevitable and that was because of who he is. Not anybody else. I think the culture, team, and system matter more when the guy isn't at that level. Mentally or physically. They can't overcome a bad org and bad coaching. But I don't believe the elite ones would just all of sudden not be that way in other circumstances. Perhaps the progression would be impacted, but these guys just have drive, talent, and intelligence that is at another level compared to others.

We missed an opportunity by not leveraging the 90's uniforms more. We are going to wear them one time in a game that will likely be meaningless from a result perspective and not even the final game in the stadium. I hope they rock them for the playoffs.

Josh Allen is going to do Josh Allen things. No way to stop it. His leaping is more scary IMO.

100%, I can't count how many "leaders" in business use "I" completely unaware of what it is saying to others. It's something I actually look for in all communication in my org.

Josh literally looks like a high schooler in some of these vids and it's the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. The MVP of the league looks at this with a kids excitement in his 8th season.

As a card carrying McD hater (who I will give flowers to on the start of the year) I have been consistent in praising this element of the team. Turnovers, for most teams are fairly random on the defensive side of the ball. But McD's teams historically, even dating back to Carolina, have been exceptional here. It's not random and it does directly lead to wins. When you go down the switch coaching path, that is the element I think you lose the most from. You aren't going to bring another coach in that is this successful at maximizing the turnover battle. He's elite at it, it's in the way our defenses are taught and it's very valuable.

This turnaround phenomenon is getting rather interesting, especially when you consider the parallels. Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold all started for franchises that are poorly ran. They all started year 1. Daniel Jones is likely going to be the next one on this list. Outside of the bad franchise part, perhaps an element exists just not being burdened by expectations. It has to be a bit much to be a 21 year old tasked with turning around a dysfunctional franchise. Most of which are still dysfunctional years later. To go into a situation largely free of expectations but with the experience of your past. It has to be a pretty damn good feeling for some of these guys.

Still like the shout song more TBH

Save the tricks for postseason as far as I'm concerned

What makes me laugh is the people already trying to cash receipts on "nailing" the Chiefs demise. Forget that fact that they have been predicting it incorrectly for 3 years now. It's week three, and the current starting WR's are Tyquan Thornton, a beat up Hollywood Brown, and JuJu. I wish they wouldn't figure it out, but they will enough to at least get in. At which point they're obviously dangerous to anybody.

This is about where I'm at as well. Although I think they will look a lot different with Rice and Worthy. They will need to fix the line. Mahomes was seeing ghosts vs the Eagles. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they really turn it around, but even so, not getting the bye and fighting in that division all year will take its toll.

It's an incredible statistic given the correlation to winning

You don't think they will make the playoffs?

flex after the seasons over