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As a European/Rest of the World person who has travelled extensively I am calling complete and utter BS on the suggestion that "we" would just generally shrug at what he did. "Other non violent sexual acts" are more culturally acceptable over here. Seriously?

Not a chance in hell that it will still be 6 games and no fine My guess is at least 12 games and a big fine. The NFL (a) sends out a message that they will be tough on this sort of behaviour (which they should be) and gets to look like the good guys for once; (b) sets a precedent that supersedes the ones that Robinson used when setting the number at 6 and (c) sends the message to people that contract shenanigans of the sort that the Turds engaged in are a no-go

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It was absolutely his right not to be vaccinated but that is the very definition of "me first" - he chose a path that suited him but harmed the team. Also, enough of the "experimental" vaccine bollox. I think, as others have said, the changes were not in the organisation but in him: 2 years ago he was a god out there, if we needed a first down then everytone knew where to look. Last year that just was not the case. Had his play not diminished then perhaps the distraction that he became would have been acceptable but the combintion of lesser play and greater disctraction was what meant his time here was over

Not a Karen (wrong bits!) but someone who considers that broad, sweeping and derogatory generalisations based on race (racism), gender (misogyny/misandry) or religion (religious discrimination) to always be inappropriate. Slag of a person by all means, don't slag of a group. Since we are way off the subject of football here (and probably were with the OP), I will quit whilst I am behind

You may be right (I really hope - no offence - that you are wrong) but I would say that the contract says nothing about how "people" are viewing the issue. Plus, I think you are crediting the Browns onwership with far more intelligence than they actually have when you suggest they thought this through 😀

Exactly how many women was he alleged to have assaulted? I am in no way dismissing what he did but you are comparing apples and oranges here In addition, the exposure of a case in 2033 and one now is completely different - people who would have never heard of the Bryant case (and I am one of them as I am neither in the US nor at all interested in trhe NBA) will most definitely have heard of the Watsaon case. For example, the fact that his 6-game suspension is being appealed was covered in the Guardian in the UK (on the US news page, not the sports page), not exactly a regular coverer of US sports

I agree. Even after his career is finished (today would be nice) when people think of Watson I suspect the first thing they will think of will be the whole "sexual predator" thing ... and personally I am all in favour of that.

That would be my guess but I am still wondering how (and why, although the way mhy be that she had to find a reason for the - frankly ridiculous IMO - 6-game ban after she hammered him in her findings fo fact) she came up with it. As you say, legally "sexual assault" doesn't actually need violence (no assault does, if there is actual violence then in is "battery"). Investigating sexual assaults (these days in a non-criminal context) is part of my day job and I have never come across such a distinction, even from review panels without the legal background that, presumably, this judge has.

I think that there really is only one appropriate punishment in such a case, and that is to cut off his goolies On a serious note though, my real concern with the Judge's decision is this mythical "non-violent sexual assault" concept she has come up with. I mean, WTF does that even mean?

Spoken like a true Yorkshireman

Seriously, that is the line you want to take? That there has to be "physical force" used for someone to be a sexual predator? The man, by all accounts, used women for his own sexual gratification. If that is not a sexual predator then what is?

Well, they are unlikely to be saying nice things about him are they? The worse they make him sound, the less stupid they sound in trading for Watson. I would definitely take Mayfield over Darnold - he is not a franchise QB but I think he is better than many on here seem to think.

Well, I did always prefer this one anyway

@GunnerBill@BritBill My folks have recently moved into a flat just down the road from the Spuds' stadium and my eldest is a Vikings fan (well, he is Swedish after all) so I am eyeing the Vikings-Saints game on October 2 as a multiple birds with one stone sort of thing. If you are there, would be great to catch up for a beer or two.

"Marching On Together"

Well, the winners of the SB are called the "World Champions" 🙄

Snowy Stockholm, Sweden - 00:30 Monday

Actually, that is exactly what he has done probably every rugby game he has ever played - being able to catch the high ball (which can come at any time unlike in American Football when you know the other team is punting) is a skill that a winger in rugby definitely needs - and there is no one out there slowing the chase down. Also, fair catch is a thing in rugby too.

You missed the hooker in the middle of the props 🙂

Just a hop, step and a jump over to Blighty from here in Stockholm so I really hope this is true!

I am a long time (as in before the Superbowl years) overseas Bills fan (born in the UK, lived in Hong Kong, now based in Sweden). I don't get to the US much but I have managed to get in a few Bills games over the years, but these have always been away games. As luck would have it, I will be in New York for work the week of 21 October and free the following weekend (Week 8) before I head down to Washington. The Bills are at home to the Eagles and so I am grabbing the chance to finally see them at home. My question is where is the best place to sit? Money is not too much of an issue (within reason) but I want to get the most of this experience as I don't know when it will come up again. Any suggestions as to where to stay the night before/after the game would be much appreciated.