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Pretty certain Tuesday is his vet rest day

Pegulas are close with the Rooney family as well...

The surprise is that he was held out. Could be something (because they're trading him), or absolutely nothing (minor, previously unknown injury/unscheduled rest day, etc.)

Thank you, yes I did. Fixed the title. What excites me about Jenkins is that he can (and does) literally play all 5 spots on the line, he's not just an OG.

https://www.packers.com/team/players-roster/elgton-jenkins/ Per Spotrac, he's making less than $4M per year. Is extremely versatile (which would definitely come in handy with our various OL injuries), and is a FA after this season (both potentially making him attainable and also, possibly contributing to our compensatory picks, if we can't resign him). I have no idea if he's remotely available, but was a surprise practice holdout today...

The only update that matters is that we're 2-0, having beat two of last year's best teams by a combined 55 points while playing 2 rookies and a former 7th round draft pick at his position. If we keep this up, we might not need him until the playoffs, which is when we actually will need him. Until then, we might as well keep letting him get better and better while blowing the doors off teams...

To be clear... I'm not necessarily saying he's making a wise decision -- your response is well put (even if the time-value of money has all but been debunked at this point). I think it's also fair to point out that there are MANY athletes who have gone broke because they trusted the wrong people with their money. No, Lamar isn't a financial expert, but he's also the guy making the money so he obviously knows he can trust that guy. Candidly, I don't even know if that's why he's representing himself, but it feels worthy of pointing out. He's playing a game of chicken and could certainly lose -- without experts providing him guidance, you're certainly right in stating that that could certainly be a conceivable -- maybe even inevitable outcome. What I don't think is debatable at this point is that the Ravens have cost themselves money and/or years, by not at least bending earlier. My issue is that there's too many out there running with the narrative that he (a black man) is a moron and should leave it up to "the experts" (typically white men), when he very clearly is not a moron and has, to-date, made good decisions for himself. Maybe some of that is racial, maybe not, I'm certainly not trying to paint everyone looking at this less-than-commonplace decision as racist -- but some of it has that taste to it. It doesn't take a genius to see what's happening with the salaries at the QB position and the extent to which the Ravens have built their offense around him. You need a QB to win in this league, a lesser QB (and person) was just paid a quarter B, guaranteed by a team in your division. That's all leverage. Maybe he should bring in a #s guy to iron out the details, but it feels silly (at best) to act like one of the best players in the world at his position somehow just has no concept of how to value himself...

Yes. Next question...

I was maybe his biggest hater on this board when we drafted him, and he made me look smart last year. But yeah, he definitely flashed a number of times last night! That'll never change the fact that we took Ed Oliver and Cody Ford over DK Metcalf, but I'll be glad to be wrong about him if he keeps showing out!

Here's the thing -- the entire Ravens offensive identity is built around HIM; not players like him (because there are none), him. To move on from him as their franchise QB would mean a much more organizational and structural adjustment that will likely create a domino effect of changes within that organization for multiple years-- and they all know that. But so does Lamar. To those, and there are many, saying he should get an agent, I don't understand this line of thinking -- the price for franchise QBs is only going in one direction, and arguably no QB (Russell being maybe the one exception) has more leverage because of my point in the first paragraph. He clearly understands that he has all the leverage -- why does he need an agent to manage that for him? I won't go so far as to call that notion racist, but you don't see that kind of criticism and scrutiny over most players, certainly not ones that are playing their hands as well as LJ, so why? Yes, he's making a gambling on himself and gambles don't always pay off -- he could certainly get hurt and miss out on guaranteed millions. But to pretend that he's somehow bungling this all up -- when he's the one most in control of his body and what happens to it (for reference, he's set records the last 2 years in NOT getting hit when running). Winning while disrupting the power structure is pretty rare, I think it's pretty cool what he's doing, frankly. Lamar knows his worth -- both to the organization and throughout the league. The longer the Ravens kick the can down the road, the more they're going to end up screwing themselves on the backend.

I think I've mentioned on this board that I had the great privilege to have gotten to know Marv and his family a little bit, a few years back. I'm not easily star-struck, and have met probably more than my fair share of celebrity types in the line of work I used to be in, but I can vividly remember how giddy and nervous and awestruck I was to meet him. The best part? Marv is often called "the Gentleman of the NFL" and he's an even better human being than that (or his general reputation) gives him credit for. There's probably a handful of people on this earth that could supersede that (though I can't think of any off the top of my head), but getting to spend time with Marv Levy will forever be one of my all-time life highlights. Happy Birthday to a truly special and wonderful man!

All 3 of these ideas are terrible.

It's not a financial thing, it's an optics thing...

His injury is such that he could quite literally DIE if hit wrong. I'm guessing no NFL team wants to take that responsibility on. If Ross wants to continue playing competitive football, it'll probably need to be in one of the spring leagues or in the CFL...

Lack of attention to WR could be a scheme change, could be bad luck, or could be not wanting to put a rookie in a key spot that they may not be ready for... There's still decent deep threats available in FA, and given how the first 3 rounds shook out, guys like Chase Claypool (YES PLEASE, also how awkward was it watching him announce his replacement???), Marquez Calloway, Jalen Raeger, Denzell Mims, Kadarius Toney (doubtful, but worth listing), and Rondale Moore. Definitely feels like we need another weapon...

Not a very good football player, unfortunately...

I know this is a joke, but I just have to say... for a team that just broke records for not punting, the obsession over a rookie punter with this fanbase has been... perplexing to say the least.

This is weird to me but you do you. It's not the route I would take, but I also don't think Dane Jackson is particularly good...

I don't necessarily disagree, but I also think a year ago we probably wouldn't have included DE in a similar list and took Basham in the 2nd. Again, FAR from a lock, but I think there's enough reasons to justify it if that's the way they go...

Kind of depends on how tonight breaks out... ideally you can play the Ravens' game and let 2 quality players fall to you. If you assume my math is accurate, really only means 12 picks between 33 and our pick in the 3rd that have to be "off" and we'd have our choice of that list. But obviously that doesn't incorporate need, runs, flags on players, etc. I'd be open to moving anything from our 3 down for the right player/pick, but that'd need to be a pretty big swing...

You can certainly make that argument. I think if you look at the way the league is trending, our impending need at safety, how we use our safeties and the fact that said safeties are both converted CBs, I think there's an easy enough argument to be made for at least including them in the discussion.

We've got 2 picks in the next 57 selections. From those spots, it feels likely that at least 4 QBs will go, I'll conservatively say 11 DL go, and we could conceivably find use for picks at just about every position. So that means 2 picks in the next 42 with any real consequence to our roster building. I see a pretty clear tier of quality guys and then... less-so guys. Here's hoping we can figure out a way to get 2 of these 30 (qbs/dl removed)... Breece Hall Kenneth Walker George Pickens Christian Watson Skyy Moore Alec Pierce Jalen Tolbert John Metchie Trey McBride Bernhard Raiman Rasheed Walker Nic Petit-Frere Sean Rhyan Dylan Parham Darrian Kinnard Jamaree Salyer Nakobe Dean Christian Harris Leo Chenal Chad Muma Troy Anderson Channing Tindall Brian Asamoah Andrew Booth Kyler Gordon Roger McCreary Tariq Woolen Jalen Pitre Jaquan Brisker

If it were literally anyone else, I'd be DYING for Seattle to take Strong in the 2nd just so FFadpecr could come back and talk about how right his process was (regardless of how ludicrous it was), but John Schneider is too good of a person to wish that on...

Something's up with him, so certainly interviews may nix him entirely, but he's got talent, fix the other stuff and you've got a low investment chance at something solid.

@FFadpecr your day has arrived! Still feeling this confident in Strong???