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As usual, you and I are pretty well aligned, I was just "defending" Mingo based on the available poll options. It's gross as all getout, but fills a need at a spot I think we need to address. As I said in my original post, we'd be incredibly dumb to not flip a 4 or a 5 for Tillman or Simpson. Of your list, I really like Phillips and would be fine with Johnson as well.

Certainly the highest ceiling of the group, but dude has almost zero floor. Obviously we all hope it doesn't shake out this way, but I think we HAVE to find a contributor at that spot... MIngo's far from perfect, but provides matchup options as a jumbo slot and could potentially be arbitrage for Gabe as well.

Kayshon Boutte -- warts and all -- probably deserves as much, if not more of a consideration than Musgrave in this situation.

Musgrave would be a catastrophically bad pick for Buffalo... All options are poo-poo, and its brutal that Tillman went two picks ahead and Simpson went 4 -- either of those guys would be worth a minor trade up for over this mess, but had to go with Mingo of the options listed...

This makes a lot of sense. Athletically, he's somewhat similar to Hardman, but seems like a much more mature, driven, "has the dawg in him" type football player. Feels like a good fit for them. The question is what KC would have to give up to go get him...

You're not wrong, if people disliked Edmonds, they'll run Noah out of town with torches and pitchforks before season's end. Kid should legitimately look at switching to EDGE... This poll and thread makes me sad.

Not being hyperbolic here when I say that drafting him might've been a tipping point for this franchise (in the wrong direction)...

Contracts get bought out all the time. And I don't think the suggestion is that he's going to be able to pull kids Oregon wouldn't have otherwise, but the difference in recruiting between not having an OC and having a superstar OC (or one you could at least sell as such) is massive.

FWIW, the line of thinking is that he WOULD leave right away, since recruiting is heating up right now.

Hey all, as my name indicates, I'm also an Oregon Duck fan. Just passing along that Oregon's top "insider", Justin Hopkins, mentioned this week that Joe Brady was his bet -- and likely Dan Lanning's first call -- for the Ducks' open OC spot. Brady and Lanning have a good relationship and the thinking is he'd basically be the perfect candidate and also had at least some interest in the job. Separately, there's smoke that *a* hire could happen anytime now (in terms of general timeline/timeframe), and it stands to reason (my speculation) that the optimal timing for a change like this to happen this late in the season would be during a mini-bye week (aka tonight or tomorrow morning). So like I said, may be something, may be nothing, but our QB coach is getting interest from the college ranks, at the very least. Go Bills!

Could be (hence my "pretty sure"). But they're also incentivized to drive eyeballs and traffic, so also wouldn't be the first time a "journalist" sensationalized absolutely nothing. We'll know in an hour!

Pretty certain Tuesday is his vet rest day

Pegulas are close with the Rooney family as well...

The surprise is that he was held out. Could be something (because they're trading him), or absolutely nothing (minor, previously unknown injury/unscheduled rest day, etc.)

Thank you, yes I did. Fixed the title. What excites me about Jenkins is that he can (and does) literally play all 5 spots on the line, he's not just an OG.

https://www.packers.com/team/players-roster/elgton-jenkins/ Per Spotrac, he's making less than $4M per year. Is extremely versatile (which would definitely come in handy with our various OL injuries), and is a FA after this season (both potentially making him attainable and also, possibly contributing to our compensatory picks, if we can't resign him). I have no idea if he's remotely available, but was a surprise practice holdout today...

The only update that matters is that we're 2-0, having beat two of last year's best teams by a combined 55 points while playing 2 rookies and a former 7th round draft pick at his position. If we keep this up, we might not need him until the playoffs, which is when we actually will need him. Until then, we might as well keep letting him get better and better while blowing the doors off teams...

To be clear... I'm not necessarily saying he's making a wise decision -- your response is well put (even if the time-value of money has all but been debunked at this point). I think it's also fair to point out that there are MANY athletes who have gone broke because they trusted the wrong people with their money. No, Lamar isn't a financial expert, but he's also the guy making the money so he obviously knows he can trust that guy. Candidly, I don't even know if that's why he's representing himself, but it feels worthy of pointing out. He's playing a game of chicken and could certainly lose -- without experts providing him guidance, you're certainly right in stating that that could certainly be a conceivable -- maybe even inevitable outcome. What I don't think is debatable at this point is that the Ravens have cost themselves money and/or years, by not at least bending earlier. My issue is that there's too many out there running with the narrative that he (a black man) is a moron and should leave it up to "the experts" (typically white men), when he very clearly is not a moron and has, to-date, made good decisions for himself. Maybe some of that is racial, maybe not, I'm certainly not trying to paint everyone looking at this less-than-commonplace decision as racist -- but some of it has that taste to it. It doesn't take a genius to see what's happening with the salaries at the QB position and the extent to which the Ravens have built their offense around him. You need a QB to win in this league, a lesser QB (and person) was just paid a quarter B, guaranteed by a team in your division. That's all leverage. Maybe he should bring in a #s guy to iron out the details, but it feels silly (at best) to act like one of the best players in the world at his position somehow just has no concept of how to value himself...

Yes. Next question...

I was maybe his biggest hater on this board when we drafted him, and he made me look smart last year. But yeah, he definitely flashed a number of times last night! That'll never change the fact that we took Ed Oliver and Cody Ford over DK Metcalf, but I'll be glad to be wrong about him if he keeps showing out!

Here's the thing -- the entire Ravens offensive identity is built around HIM; not players like him (because there are none), him. To move on from him as their franchise QB would mean a much more organizational and structural adjustment that will likely create a domino effect of changes within that organization for multiple years-- and they all know that. But so does Lamar. To those, and there are many, saying he should get an agent, I don't understand this line of thinking -- the price for franchise QBs is only going in one direction, and arguably no QB (Russell being maybe the one exception) has more leverage because of my point in the first paragraph. He clearly understands that he has all the leverage -- why does he need an agent to manage that for him? I won't go so far as to call that notion racist, but you don't see that kind of criticism and scrutiny over most players, certainly not ones that are playing their hands as well as LJ, so why? Yes, he's making a gambling on himself and gambles don't always pay off -- he could certainly get hurt and miss out on guaranteed millions. But to pretend that he's somehow bungling this all up -- when he's the one most in control of his body and what happens to it (for reference, he's set records the last 2 years in NOT getting hit when running). Winning while disrupting the power structure is pretty rare, I think it's pretty cool what he's doing, frankly. Lamar knows his worth -- both to the organization and throughout the league. The longer the Ravens kick the can down the road, the more they're going to end up screwing themselves on the backend.

I think I've mentioned on this board that I had the great privilege to have gotten to know Marv and his family a little bit, a few years back. I'm not easily star-struck, and have met probably more than my fair share of celebrity types in the line of work I used to be in, but I can vividly remember how giddy and nervous and awestruck I was to meet him. The best part? Marv is often called "the Gentleman of the NFL" and he's an even better human being than that (or his general reputation) gives him credit for. There's probably a handful of people on this earth that could supersede that (though I can't think of any off the top of my head), but getting to spend time with Marv Levy will forever be one of my all-time life highlights. Happy Birthday to a truly special and wonderful man!

All 3 of these ideas are terrible.

It's not a financial thing, it's an optics thing...

His injury is such that he could quite literally DIE if hit wrong. I'm guessing no NFL team wants to take that responsibility on. If Ross wants to continue playing competitive football, it'll probably need to be in one of the spring leagues or in the CFL...