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Reading through these names feels like an episode of Key and Peele…

I can’t remember the last time the Bills drafted any DL and right away we as fans were collectively like “oh, this dude is legit”… Kyle Williams?

I mean they did draft two CBs, I’m hoping White wasn’t actually their “plan A” at the position, and Hairston will get up to speed by week 4-5 to take over the spot full time regardless if Tre is healthy or not.

I’d be interested to see some run designs with him on the field, along with Hawes and 6 OL… basically a better Mack Hollins, so yes?

“JAG” to me means capable NFL player, not somebody you’re worried about on the field being a game changing playmaker. That’s motor. A dime a dozen NFL running back. Nothing to be ashamed of, Singletary carved out a nice lucrative career for himself, but he wasn’t giving any DC’s fits trying to gameplan for him. You let me know when you see Joe Burrow run over and through defenders… There is NOBODY like Josh Allen. No homer, it’s just not even close. There’s 17 and there’s everybody else… Bengals also play in a far tougher division. I think if you put Burrow on this team, they are likely still division winners bc Beane has built a strong OL, and the division is still trash, but who knows how he looks without even one WR as capable as Tee Higgins, forget about Jamar Chase. But yeah, I’ll agree the Bills are run better than the dumpster fire of an organization that is the Cincinnati Bengals. As well as the Dolphins, Browns, Jets, Raiders, and probably 2/3 of the league honestly. The “problem” is, the best football player EVER to step on a football field currently plays for our Buffalo Bills, at this point anything less than a Super Bowl is a disappointment. The bar has been raised and nobody seems to get that bc everybody here was so used to losing for so long, they seem content with Josh’s career falling short just bc that’s historically been the Bills M.O…

My assessment was strictly the first three rounds. He’s had some nice hits in other rounds, certainly wouldn’t list Edmunds amongst any of his accomplishments, and Wyatt Teller is probably the guy with the most accolades on that list and he didn’t have the foresight to actually keep him on the roster, but Dawson Knox got a bloated extension… His propensity for finding occasional late round gems who out perform their late round draft status doesn’t make up for the squandered picks in the first three rounds, where all the premium talent is considered to be. That is a concern. This team should have multiple Super Bowl performances at this stage of Josh’s career especially when looking at his absolutely elite playoff numbers, so who’s not doing their job when 17 is “putting on his cape” year in year out only for somebody to inevitably fall short? Whether it be the defense that has had SO much draft capital and free agency dollars thrown at it, only to be a liability every year in the playoffs, or 1st round picks not coming up in big moments like Dalton Kantkatch, or does the honus fall of McDermott and his defensive coaching staff? The common denominator in all of that is Brandon Beane, those are all players/coaches put on the field with his seal of approval, so imo, the buck stops there. It all starts at the top, and to your point he’s made some good decisions like some late round picks and Joe Brady, but it’s going to be incredibly hard to win it all if you can’t ever knock day 1/day2 out of the park like the other perennial winners do from time to time to retool on the cheap. FTR, I like Beane, I want him to succeed, but at this point I’ve lost pretty much all faith in his ability to put together a defense to compliment Josh like Mahomes has had in KC.

Brown and Bernard I’ll give you, top 5 might be a bit Homery, but so is the rest of your assessment. Dawson Knox is above average in what way? Using two day 2 picks on RB and walking a way with an average RB, and a bust is not a brag. It took him three tries to finally get it right with Cook. There is literally nothing special in there, at all. Nothing that’s like “wow, what a wizard, how does he do it?”, he basically drafted a bunch of jags, and then combine with all the busts/disappointments I listed in the post you responded too, and it basically says it all- Josh Allen is his resume. Without Josh he’s back in Carolina 4 years ago…

Groot is solid, but no OC’s are game planning for him like a top tier DE, but I’d give him a B. James Cook is legit… After that, excluding Josh, his resume for the first few rounds is less than stellar. Edmunds Oliver, who given his top 10 draft status has underperformed. Elam Kincaid who is running the risk of venturing into bust category without a breakout year AJ Mehpenesa Cody Ford Boogie Basham That’s a lot of high end draft capital, and as the OP mentioned, last years class isn’t look so hot at this point. You’d like to give them the benefit of the doubt, but this teams track record of developing its day 1/2 picks doesn’t leave me feeling to optimistic for Carter or Bishop, I still think Keon can contribute, but would’ve rather had Worthy, Ladd or traded up for BTJ, Coleman was not a guy I was keen on but I can think Josh can get the most out of him.

Beane’s just not that good at drafting. He’s not the worst, but he’s also very far from the best. He basically lucked into Josh, and most of his other picks have been alright at best.

Yeah I know tackling certainly isn’t his forte, I had just thought if Rapp was more of the “thumper”/run support role, and you kinda just let Tre White ball hawk back there, it couldn’t be worse than Hamlin. Or use him in strictly passing situations and let him sit back there in zone. It shouldn’t even be a question, Beane’s had ample time and free agents to choose from over the last couple years who wouldn’t have broke the bank at the position, he just chooses to ignore it for whatever reason. Ever since Poyer and Hyde aged out, the position has went from one of strength to a complete liability, with no real excuse for it.

I had no idea there was “Tre to safety crap”, sorry to ruffle your feathers there brother. Touchy subject apparently… Unfortunately, team doesn’t have a starting caliber safety. BTW, quite literally prefaced with “too late for a positional switch”. He’s shot at corner. TRYING him out at safety in the offseason would’ve hurt who exactly? Taken valuable reps away from all world pro Damar Hamlin? Those paid off…

I feel like they should’ve tried Tre at safety. Probably too late at this stage of the preseason for a positional switch, but it’s worked for some other corners in the twilight of their careers. Devin McCourty and Troy Vincent come to mind. I mean, the team needs something at Safety, and I feel like while we all love Tre, he’s likely to be more of a liability than anything else out there on the boundary this year... Unfortunately time + injuries catches up with the best of them sooner or later.

Yeah, I deleted the post bc I had the contract years mistaken, he has one more season guaranteed bc they are locked in to a bad deal. If it weren’t for the price tag, I’m not sure what he brings to the offense that the other two don’t. His production as a pass catcher has been almost non existent, plus Kincaid was drafted specifically to fill that role, and Hawes is almost certainly a superior blocker. But I could see Knox perhaps taking a team friendly restructure/significant pay cut next year to stick around bc of his relationships here and he is plenty fine as a reserve, just not for nearly the same dollars as James Cook.

Yeah, that’s what I get for trying to look up the numbers myself and refusing to use Chat GPT or Google AI… thanks for clarifying.

Devil’s advocate here, but why should it really matter? If the NFL actually cared about anything other than printing dollarbucks that would be one thing, but it’s just a corporate entity only concerned with the optics and PR of the situation, not rehabilitating Rashee Rice as a person or the safety of the community. Unless it has an impact on the actual integrity of the game (betting, PEDs, spygate, SA and even then they let Watson back, etc), why not just let the law handle the legal stuff? As a fan, I just want to watch the best players on the field on Sundays, if they veer into the wrong lanes in their private lives then shouldn’t whatever punishment they receive through due process be sufficient? I mean if Ed Oliver crashed his horse and fled the scene, I think we’d all be feeling the same way…

Tone it down… Hijacking a thread?… Surely you can’t be serious… This place is stiffer than a catholic priest at a Chuck E. Cheese’s.

So you’re only allowed to look at the successes and not the misses, got it… I expect Beane’s scouting department to do a better job of not blowing high end draft capital on a regular basis. Or we can keep pretending that this team contends for anything whatsoever as it’s currently built without the generational unicorn that is Josh Allen under center… it’s a decently built team with a decent head coach and arguably the greatest QB ever to take the field. If Beane and McDermott landed Baker or Darnold instead of backing into Josh are they even in Buffalo right now? Point is I’m not going to blow smoke like Brandon Beane can’t frickin miss when really the only bullseye has been Josh Allen, and a kudos on building up the OL… But am I wrong expect him to hit some drafts out of the park every now and again? Rather than resting his laurels on the fact that he’s the guy who drafted Josh Allen. I’m supposed to sit here and make a big deal bc the guy extended a running back? He has Josh Allen and zero Super Bowl appearances at this juncture in his tenure with the Buffalo Bills, by my measuring stick that’s underperforming when we all know who and what we have in 17.

Sorry, I don’t live around here, and didn’t realize there were hard and fast rules. Clearly it’s your panties wadded up in those cheeks… That trade for Diggs was a good thing in hindsight? You’d rather have a few good years of Diggs at top dollar than the pick that was ultimately Justin Jefferson for the entirety of his prime? Shouldn’t we be able to trust that if a Beane is the wizard everybody you say he is, he would’ve surely drafted Jefferson in that spot, right? Didn’t realize it was a crime to get sidetracked a bit and deviate from the riveting discussion of “Go Bills!” And “ Nice, great deal!”. ADHD happens, if you get that butthurt about it, gloss over to next “In McBeane We Trust” post number #5437… FTR, I hope Coleman goes for 1500 and 12 TDs and makes me look like an absolute clown. ”Go Bills”

Strawman much? I may have gotten side tracked a bit, but all I said was I don’t think Beane has done enough to draft playmakers around Josh. I’m not even sure how I got off on that tangent, ADHD is a helluva thing, but my entire point was while I’m happy he resigned Cook, it’d be nice to have more playmakers to resign, but there isn’t bc he doesn’t draft them, and he’s missed some golden opportunities, IMO. Nowhere did I say failure, I even used the phrase “top tier GM”. Apparently we just need 20+ pages of “Way to go Beane!”…

“Der Der Madden Der Der….” Eight draft classes to surround Josh Allen with weapons and in 50+ draft picks he got James Cook and Khalil Shakir… I mean, I guess only in a fantasy video game could one fathom to possibly somehow manage to draft another WR or two worth a 💩 in the better part of a decade… Beane is definitely a top tier GM. Doesn’t make him perfect, I think his approach to drafting WRs, or lack thereof, is flawed. Personally, I’d rather draft guys in the first 3 rounds rather than pay “jags” like Samuel 7-9million a year.

Teams move up and down the draft board all the time, especially in the late 1st. You think teams are just icing out the Bills? If Beane wanted to move up, he could have, especially with the extra 2 from the Diggs deal.

I see a lot of disagreements not a single counter point. Typical. Kincaid is on bust trajectory as of right now. Can he change that, absolutely, but the odds aren’t in his favor at this point. Coleman failed to impress, especially compared to all the guys I mentioned drafted around him. Sorry, I know, people are big on the hopium this time of year so the truth doesn’t really jibe with the vibe, I get it. Beane has routinely bypassed quality WRs and the only WR he has drafted in 7 years who is a quality NFL player and overplayed his draft status is Khalil Shakir. That’s it. I understand he has built a great O L, not taking that away from him. Point still remains, when it comes to DRAFTING WRs and apparently pass catching TE’s, it’s not what he does best. Im glad he resigned Cook however, and the fact that when he does get it right, he makes sure those guys stay in Buffalo. I just wish he got the WR position right, or tried to address it more often, rather than say taking Cody Ford ahead of AJ Brown and/or DK Metcalf. That one always gets me because they took Knox the next round so they clearly were scouting Ole Miss. And while some want to point to the Diggs trade, at the end of the day, is this team better off for it? The fact that best WR in football was taken with that pick? The ensuing drama? The wasted dead cap remedying that drama?

Beane would trade Kincaid and Coleman for BTJ faster than you can say Orenthal James Simpson.

Yeah Coleman was about as wrong as a pick gets at this point. I can’t imagine it would’ve taken a kings ransom to jump the Jags for Brian Thomas, the guy many of us had our sights set on. Then Worthy seems exactly what this team needs, no no no, KC you take the field stretching burner, I’m sure we won’t regret that in the AFC Championship… It means Ladd must be our guy, I mean the skill set is a bit similar to Shakir, but I can’t see the problem with having two guys who get consistent separation… Nope, its the guy with sloppy route running and no separation, but he can high point a ball…yay… Don't get me wrong, I love this team, but drafting weapons for Josh has not been exactly Brandon Beane’s forte.

And to your point, he hasn’t taken a beating like between the tackles runners such as Kyren do. Cook wasn’t exactly a workhorse in college, he’s done a good job of staying healthy at this level, he’s still almost as young as Tremaine Edmunds, and his usage rate suggests there is more than enough tread on those tires for him to stay productive throughout the entirety of his extension. I think people are wayyyy to stuck on the “every down back” stuff. Cook maximizes his touches, because as you mentioned the guy is just a playmaker. With the schedule already at 17 games and barreling towards 18, the sun is setting on the days of the “every down back”. Even Bijan gets spelled a healthy amount by the downhill stylings of Tyler Algier. Thats what the Ray Davis’ of the world are for, to live between the tackles, and while I love the way Ray runs, Cooks skill set is much more dynamic and adds a dimension to the offense that you’re not going to get with Davis or Johnson in the backfield. Can’t play three downs, is different from don’t need to play him three downs. Why burn him out and risk injury if you don’t need to? Letting him walk over 2 million dollars of not your money is crazy. Who are the Bills signing for that extra 2 million that makes a difference in winning a Super Bowl right now?