Ethan in Cleveland
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1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:
I don't understand how you can even put last years and this years FA period in the same sentence? Bills were rubbing pennies together last year , by design , knowing this year they'd have a great deal of funds. They and we knew Bodine and Ducass were not long term answers. They went out this year and really did work on that OL and protecting Allen , setting him up for success.
I do agree that a move up is definitely possible , if Beane and Co fell in love with a top 5 pick , they definitely created the flexibility to move on up. This is year 1 of Buffalo being a legit threat in the AFC for years to come , at Least in their minds I think , well mine too .
Well Im not sure the OL signings other than Morse are long term solutions. Spain is a one year deal, Nsekhe is old, and the rest are more depth guys. Maybe Long is a guy that can start for a couple years.
I still see no reason to move up. Still have long term issue at RT. And the defense needs a DT and OLB. TE is still a mess as is the long term RB spot.
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Just now, wppete said:
Morse, Spain, and to some degree Long are upgrades. On paper Beane looks like he has done a good job. I’m not sure Nsekhe is any better than Mills and Im not sure Feliciano is any better than Teller will be.
It will be interesting to see if they release Bodine now. If they keep him then at least one of these FA signings may not make the roster.
I doubt OT in the first round now but still could see in round 2 or 3 and Nsekhe as a one year starter at RT. Also OT early is insurance if Dawkins doesn’t rebound from a down year. I agree with other posters that having a better LG will help Dawkins a lot especially in the run game.
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Just now, The Bills Blog said:
If we draft a WR, who are we cutting? Don't understand the draft a WR talk. We are already looking at likely having to cut McKenzie or Williams.
Have you watched Zay play? He wont be missed
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Please dear god do not move up. This is one of the deepest drafts in positions of need in a decade. The only move is down.
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5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Yeah the instincts Urlacher had in SPADES though.
He played safety in college........was only switched to LB during the draft process and proceeded to play at an All Pro MLB level as a rookie.
That would be unbelievable at most positions but MLB's are like RB's..........they are usually good right out of the chute in the NFL...........which is why Edmunds struggles weren't the same as if he were a DE or CB or LT etc.........the learning curve is much steeper at those positions.
I also tend to think Edmunds is a much more finished product at LB than his age indicates.............he grew up in an NFL family and played the position for 3 seasons at VA Tech.
This year will tell it all..........if he doesn't turn into a near peak efficient player wrt the basics that he struggled so much with last season there is no way McD will keep him at MLB for a 3rd developmental year, IMO.
That position is too important in his defense and instinctive MLB's aren't THAT hard to find.
I generally agree but 20 is still 20. I would expect him to play better this year. If not a move to OLB is a good idea. But I just don't see that happening. Coaches and GMs have egos and it is very unlikely McD will give up on Edmunds quickly. Hell he couldn't give up on the worst QB to ever play the positon.
And though it is water under the bridge, trading up for a LB was dumb no matter how talented Edmunds may be. Sit tight and they could have drafted DROY or maybe even Edmunds in the second round and had an additional pick to take a WR or OL last year.
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4 hours ago, Jasovon said:
Browns. They are getting a lot of hype this offseason and I'd love to start the year with us going into their house and punching them right in the mouth
You want a completely rebuilt OL to go against arguably the best front four in NFL.
No thanks.
Give me Miami, Giants, or Cinci in week one. None of those Dlines are to worry about
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3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
I don't think he showed a great deal of improvement...........and it certainly wasn't linear..........he was terrible in the Pats game on December 23..... one of his worst games of the season.
What he did all year was make big plays...............the hope would be that the light comes on at MLB this season and he can be coached up because he lacks instincts for the position.
I think there are a number of factors working against him becoming the kind of MLB that people expect............there aren't long, lean MLB's because they are big targets for blockers and aren't naturally stout at the point of attack. He's already missed time with a concussion suffered on a tackle.
Long term I think the best move is to move him to an edge rushing position.
Brian Urlacher played 13 years at a HOF level Middle Linebacker at 6-4 240. Edmunds is 6-5, 250. His size is not the issue. As you pointed out its his instincts. But he was only 20 years old.
Im not entirely sold on Edmunds yet either but he showed flashes of a great player.
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I agree with the DT and TE depth assessment and arguement. It makes a trade down scenario make even more sense.
If no trade down is possible, an edge rusher may have the most immediate impact for this team. And they can address, RT and TE later.
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I get it. It is just a mock and a total guess.
But a mock that has Bills drafting a C in the second round with Morse, Bodine, and Long under contract is a bit odd.
I also don't see Detroit taking Hockenson with the recent signing of James.
Denver and or Miami are not going to sit tight and not take a QB
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Just now, Thurman#1 said:
Ethan, we do know who drafted EJ, we really do.
The guy who was GM? He's the one who pulled the trigger. Buddy Nix. With Whaley in agreement.
We also know very clearly that Whaley was in agreement, as Nix put Whaley in charge of a committee to pick a QB. Whaley did so. Nix said yes or no, and in this case, yes.
We also know who had the power with McD and Whaley. Whaley did for the first couple of weeks McD was here. And then the Pegulas fell in love with McD and he got the power. It was in the papers at the time. Exactly who put what where on the board? No. But who was in charge? And therefore who gets the responsibility? That was McD.
You are probably correct. Do you think Beane or McD is calling the shots? Because Beane talks BPA but drafted for need giving up picks just like McD did the year before.
McD talks Lean Management and in that system it rarely is one person calling all the shots. It is usually a consensus with lots of input on strategic decisions like asset accumulation which is what the draft is. My guess is it truly is a team effort.
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3 hours ago, DCbillsfan said:
If that's what you want to think. Whaley was the GM of record but who was talking to the press before the draft and after the draft? McD was. Who was let go shortly after the draft? Whaley was. So technically you are right but realistically you are not.
We still don't know if it was Whaley or Nix who drafted EJ and we will never know who put the draft board together for 2017 draft. It's fine to give credit to McD for White and Dawkins. But then you have to say he passed on Mahomes and traded up for Zay.
Again no one will know the draft board and who was ultimately making the picks. But I agree it was probably McD.
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Huge disappointment and major miscalculation by me and many on this board. I thought he would replace Wood without much of a drop off.
I was wrong. Beane was correct in going after a center, but Bodine was also a major drop off from Wood.
For 2019, I still keep Bodine on the roster. Spencer Long was terrible at C last year but as folks have pointed out he was also injured.
They have the cap room to keep Bodine this year as insurance for Morse. He has missed time in both of the last two years.
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2 hours ago, Bills Survivor said:
I feel like Tremaine Edmunds was made for this role. Sliding him to SLB and inserting Devin White at MLB with a 3-tech added in the second would take this defense over the top. We'd still have Hughes, Shaq, and Murphy at DE this year and can address that situation next off-season.
Your assessment is correct but I dont see them moving Edmunds from MLB. I think Edmunds could be an All-pro at SLB. He got better as the season wore on at MLB and he is so young for the role they thrust him into. Allen and Edmunds will determine the fate of Beane and McD.
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Larry Centers anyone? He has over 800 catches as a RB.
I wonder what would have happened if Cribbs, Butler, Ferguson, and Knox could have all stayed together and healthy in the early 80’s.
FYI Ronnie Harmon is listed as 7th best pass catching RB of all time.
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I’m vacationing in Spain with my family. Walking through the grand city park in Madrid and a fellow Bills fan walks by wearing a Bills sweatshirt. He didn't see me wave. So far I’ve seen a Cubs and Red Sox hats but no other NFL gear.
If that was you, have fun in Spain.
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Please no except on day 3. They will not draft 10 guys. They will package some late round picks to move up a round late.
Please don't waste a day 2 pick to move up a few spots. They have holes at OT, DT, OLB, and TE and you can throw in RB and DB as well. They need those first four in the first two days.
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32 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:
Well, both these Iowa guys are probably going to go in the first round, which has to be a record that might never get broken again. Two TE's from the same team NFL 1st rounders. Pretty wild.
Hock seems like a perfect McD guy. Busts his ass, plays to the whistle, humble etc.
The question is, how much is that Patriots2 game sticking in Beane's mind when we sat there and hopelessly gave up 6 ypc and nearly 300 yards to Sony Michel and co. When you can't stop the run even when you know it's coming, it's embarrassing to everyone in the organization and the fans. I know I can't get over that game, and remember thinking we had better fix this in the draft or it's gonna keep happening.
With that in mind, does a TE in the first make sense with some major run stoppers on the board? I want a stud TE too, but I look at guys like OJ Howard (went 19th) and Ebron (10th overall) and can't help but wonder how many games these guys have won for their teams. Would they burn a 1st rounder on them again in a re draft?
I think Daboll will be the key here. For some reason I see him preferring four pure receivers out there and a blocking TE on empty sets, which he seemed to use more and more as the season went on, vs a receiving TE and 3 WR's. In that case I think Beaner will lean a little toward DL in the first and I'm convinced he's taking OT Risner in the 2nd.
(I've never made a single draft prediction correctly tho. Leave that to Astro.)
Howard is on his way to being a star. Ebron is a bust for his draft position no doubt.
I want mismatches. Guys that are simply physically superior to their opponent. The Bills have so precious few of those type of players.
But I agree with most not at #9 with elite defenders on the board.
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59 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Yes, Campbell instead of Bettis for sure.
This discussion is repeated on message boards over and over, all over the country.
You know what discussion DOESN'T appear nearly so often? Best RECEIVER of all time. That's a very short discussion.
Campbell has less than 10K yards rushing and is not in the top 25 all time rushers. He is an all time great no doubt but Bettis has nearly 5k more yards.
Best TE - Tony Gonzalez and its not close.
2-5 TE is just as hard as 2-5 WR
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6 minutes ago, WMDman said:
Id only take Fant in the second
I've yet to see a mock where he has fallen out of the first round. But guys fall all the time for no reason. Would be great to get Oliver and Fant. Generational draft like 2018.
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I don't believe the Bills have ever had an athletically superior tight end.
I would see Fant as great complement to Kroft (who I don't think much of at all) and Fisher(assuming he even makes the roster). Bills TE play has been so underwhelming for decades if not the entire history of the franchise. Hockenson is probably a better talent than Kroft but the skill set is too similar and the explosiveness is not the same as Fant.
I would like to see Beane drop down a few spots maybe even with more than one trade and take Fant around 15 -18. I think he could create mismatches all over the field.
For the record, I think the best chance to trade down is if there is an early run on QBs and Miami or Denver gets nervous they will be shut out. That said, if there is an early run on QBs I see the Bills staying at 9 and taking an elite defender.
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1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said:
This is an interesting way to look at the question as it gets individuals in the discussion who belong on the list but are not necessarily easily identified. Thomas is a great back but he’s great because of his combination of running and catching skills.
Bo Jackson, had he stayed healthy, would have made your pores and production category easily.
Agree on Jackson.
I never thought that much of Curtis Martin during his playing days but when all is said and done, he produced a ton.
Campbell, Peterson, Sayers could all be on that list too.
I truly hope Shady rebounds behind a rebuilt OL and the Bills extend him. I believe he is still great but I understand why folks think he may be washed up.
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Such a challenging question with many different ways to answer.
1. Power and production : Brown and Bettis
2. Power and Speed : Simpson and Dickerson
3. Elusiveness: Sanders
4. Longevity : Smith, Martin
5. Multipurpose: Thomas, Tomlinson, Faulk
Best of all, Jim Brown. He would dominate in any era
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None. Shady is the RB in 2019 and 2020. He will be extended before season starts when they see hiw good he looks behind new and improved line. There is no need go draft a rb this year. They need multiple defensive lineman, a TE or two, a LB or two, and probably still a WR.
I would go so far as saying I would rather they take a QB in the mid rounds before a RB.
If the line is significantly improved and Shady continues to regress (as some on this board believe ) then they can draft a RB early in 2020. RB is the easiest position to succeed instantly.
I would change my mind and add a RB in the mid rounds if the get rid of DeMarco. They would then need to add a RB to carry at least 4.
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5 hours ago, GreggTX said:
I don't think a 3 year rebuild is too much. A lot depends on where you start. Besides, his first 2 draft picks (Allen and Edmunds) have a long way to go and I don't know that Allen has what it takes to bring us the Lombardi trophy. He's an incredible scrambler, but his passing ability, m'eh.
This is year 3 for McD
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Hope you are correct. He has been a marginal swing tackle most of his career and is 33. Mills was mostly below average, decent in run game, and putrid at time in pass protection. Just not convinced Nsekhe is much better. Still want to see OT drafted on day 2