Ethan in Cleveland
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Forfeit game
Take away 1st round pick
Heavy fine to the owner
If Vrabel knew (and of course he did) then suspension and fine for him too.
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2 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:
I don't agree. I think it's pretty easy for NFL coaches to spot a bust since they see him just about every day at practice and in games. When the coach believes he's got a bust, his 1st inclination is to bench him ASAP because he realizes that the bad QB can cost him his job. Marrone bailed on EJ for Orton & Mularkey bailed on JP for Holcomb. Neither EJ nor JP were ruined, they never had it & the coach realized it & benched them. The only reason JP got another shot was because a new coaching staff that didn't see him every day came in. The next year they benched him for a rookie after JP got injured. Look at Josh Rosen. Arizona saw a bust, dumped him off to Miami & Miami cut him after 2 years in the NFL. Nobody wants him on their active roster, now he's on a practice squad on his way to oblivion.
There were a lot of questions about Haskins & his lack of college experience going into the draft. I think Ron Rivera & his staff have seen enough to write the guy off. It's always easier for someone who had nothing to do with drafting him to bench a high draft pick. I expect Haskins to ride off to the sunset and join a lot of 1st round QB busts. Nobody ruined him.
You are exactly correct, signed Brett Favre, Kurt Warner, Alex Smith, Drew Brees. The coaches that traded or cut us knew exactly what they were doing.
1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:Sorry. I get defensive with any shots to Josh. Just touchy I guess.
As for Haskins, I don't know. Does seem early to pull the plug. Does seem like Wash made a mistake if they didn't have Gruden in on the decision to draft Haskins.
Its not a shot at Josh. Its a shot at the overreaction of fans. There were many on this board that said Allen was a bust after his first year. They are all in hiding now. My only point is that it is too early to know.
With that said, I'm an OSU alum (medial school not undergrad) and I did not see a first round talent in Haskins nor a player that should be starting his rookie year. A prospect without the elite arm talent of Allen.
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3 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:
Lets not go overboard. Kind of disingenuous to say Haskins is better in every category, when what you mean is better in the categories you selected. I don't see anything about rushing in there. Or win/lose record for that matter.
Secondly, if he thought Kyle Allen is their long term answer it is not necessarily silly to wait for him to get acclimated to the team before putting him in. The no OTAs and no preseason apply more to Allen than Haskins. Kind of like what Miami is doing with Tua.
Haskins was never the answer. Gruden didn't want him, and neither does Rivera.
The rushing stats are a good point. Haskins is a drop back QB only.
Maybe you are right. It's still early to know.
2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:It kind of reminds me of the Bills when they would bring in a young QB. Guys like JP, EJ and Trent while they may never have been a top 5 QB were certainly done no favors by being in a dysfunctional organization. The Washington Team is a bad spot for a young QB to be in. Their organization is a complete mess and they lack on field talent. I think Haskins might be best served to be traded to a team like Pittsburgh. He needs to go to a team that can groom him behind a vet QB for a year or two to regain his confidence and enter into a good situation on the field. Even if he were to do that he might still be a bust but landing in a bad situation like Washington is not helping him.
Agreed. I'd say the same thing for Rosen too though his sample size of failure is larger.
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Haskins 13 games : 59.6% 2304 Yards 11 TD 10 INT
Josh Allen 12 games (all in 2018): 52.8% 2074 Yds 10 TD 12 INT
I'm not saying Haskins will develop. But it's a bit premature to say he is done in the NFL. Through his first 13 games he is statistically better than Allen in every category. No OTAs. No preseason (don't think that matters much - but some do). Maybe they feel Kyle Allen is their long term answer at QB. If so then why was he not the starter game 1? If not then it is silly to pull Haskins now and not let him continue to develop.
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No. NFL teams don't tank. As is popularly said, everything is on tape. Guys play hard all the time. They know that they can be cut at any time. If they are cut, they need to find a new job in a league with only so many spots and a rookie class coming in.
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11 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:
Why they didn’t add 2 bye weeks to the schedule is beyond me. As well as pushing the SB to mid Feb....
There should be two bye weeks anways but definitely this year. They should have built in a week 8 pause for catchup games if needed.
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NFL.COM is reporting two more players testing positive not one..
No way this game is played.
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NFL needs to make a decision quickly.
Either make Tennessee forfeit or shut the whole league down for two weeks to get things under control again.
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5 hours ago, NewEra said:
I disagree. None of the guys they drafted play.
It's week 4 of their rookie season. Epenesa didn't dress week 1. Moss hasn't dressed in two weeks as has 2.8 YPC. It's a bit premature to say the Packers will get no value from those picks.
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26 minutes ago, NewEra said:
No. What is “the criticism”? My criticism was NOT that they didn’t get AR a WR. Patrick Queen was the guy I thought they should’ve drafted. The defense that got decimated by the run in the NFCCG lost their starting MLB and replaced him with and injury prone player that hasn’t played much in two years......and he’s hurt again.
I did say that I thought they made a mistake by not drafting ONE WR in a very deep WR class. I stand by that. Did you see the WRs he was throwing to last night? Did you see this Shepard character catch the ball at the one yard line and fall down short of the goalline. Dude just decided to go to the ground instead of scoring a TD. They got stopped the next 3 plays. No TD. Do you not think they could have used a WR? Do you see who is lining up at WR for them? What a stud Aj Dillon has been. Just a revelation in that offense. Not. Yet they are undefeated and haven’t used any of their top 3 picks all year.
Your point was that they added other players to the offense......players have have contributed a grand total of 46 yards of offense through 4 games. Great point. Dillon- 3rd string RB 34 yards 0 tds. Can’t get carries ahead of Jamaal Williams. Deguara- 4th strong TE 1 catch 12 yards. Great point Ethan.
My criticism was that they didn’t get a player that can help them win the super bowl with AR as their QB. They decided instead, to use their best asset on ARs replacement, rather than someone that can help him win another title.
I criticized those who said the packers “have no chance to win” a SB in 2020 and that them making the nfccg was a fluke. People said that they would be worse this year because last years success was unsustainable.
Honesty I paid no attention to what you posted earlier.
All of your points in this post are valid. I would disagree that the other draft picks have no value this year. Buffalo drafted Gabe Davis in 4th round when they already had a solid top 3 WR. Nobody knows who will truly help or not with the draft. It is all speculation.
The national narrative after the draft was criticism of not drafting a WR. My only point is that though they didn't use the first round pick to help, they did help the team afterwards.
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On 9/28/2020 at 2:18 PM, NewEra said:
They have no defense Ethan!! They don’t have one decent LB Ethan.
Are you talking about Green Bay or Buffalo?
As for Green Bay the criticism was that they did not get Rodgers a WR in a WR deep draft. My point is they added other players to the offense.
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1. The passing game is working so well
2. Avoid injury
3. Avoid fumbles
4. As others said, it is still a threat and Daboll will use it later in the season
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15 hours ago, Rc2catch said:
Regardless of win loss the chiefs game is a mini super bowl for us. I know we want to crush New England but if we can hang with or even beat KC it catapults this team to huge expectations nationwide. Obviously the defense hasn’t given many reasons to think they can force a turnover or a punt vs KC. It’s a good measuring stick for expectations for me anyways
I understand this take but this team needs to put New England away first and foremost
3 minutes ago, Greg S said:I am not writing off the Chiefs game. They also have to lose as well. Might as well be in their 3rd game in 10 days. Especially coming to Buffalo on a short week. Remember they needed OT to beat the Chargers in LA so they are beatable.
With Cam New England probably would have beaten Chiefs. McD snd Frazier haad better study that Belichick defensive game plan and copy it
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2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:
Sure Rogers nipped him last night so all is good @ PFF?
Also they claimed this was the only game he did not have a turnover. He did not have one vs. Miami either.
Yes but to be fair the linebacker dropped a sure pick 6, a DB dropped another pick, and he fumbled on the scramble that was blown dead early (Bills recovered regardless)
So no turnovers but a few bad throws
Rams INT was BS
Only one bad play all games vs Raiders with the terrible sack
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11 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:
Watt isn't good anymore.
Did you watch the playoff game last year?
I wouldn't trade fir him nor do I think Houston will trade him. But as a one year rental he probably could dhelp.
I'd rather go all in and get Mack.
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1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:
Sadly, this brings us to what to do about a 2nd contract. I think Bills have to play their cards close to the vest because he’s not medically reliable. But other teams will entice him with big buck$$..
Yup. Let him go. He is good but can be replaced.
I would draft another middle linebacker and move Edmunds outside.
29 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:I'd expect Levi and Milano to land on IR for 3 weeks. Imagine Deon Lacey and Cam Lewis are elevated. Will be interesting to see if they sign anyone of interest to the Practice Squad following those moves.
Didn't they cut Lewis last week?
2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:Dodson might be ok. Generally speaking MLB's either have that ability to mirror the RB and anticipate where the ball is going or they do not.
People here once compared Edmunds to Brian Urlacher...........and then when he was awful against the run they tried to make excuses about how the 3 year college LB Edmunds needed time to learn the position.
But of course Urlacher wasn't even a LB in college and was playing like an all-pro in the middle immediately as a rookie.
You got it or you don't.
Julian Stanford was just as good as Edmunds when he had to play for him while he was out with a concussion too. No drop off.
He is probably clinging to the fringe of the Panthers roster they might be able to re-acquire him for a 7th or something.
They compared him to Urlacher because both are 6'4 or 6'5 with crazy wingspans.
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4 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:
Why the hell did we give this guy a 3-year, $18M contract? Just insane.
Be careful some believe Beane can do no wrong.
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Interesting premise. Darnold is terrible under pressure and Allen still has some hero ball in him. Darnold with these weapons is probably adequate. He seems more game manager than game breaker like Allen. Allen with no support in NY is probably a turnover machine trying to do too much to win.
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7 hours ago, mattynh said:
Honestly I thought there was a judgment call on when possession is established. Two feet and football move. That was questionable to me. Which goes to call on field. If it was called a td it would have stayed.
do I think he scored? Yes I do. But they are super crazy about not overturning unless it is perfect evidence.
I thought it was a waste of a to. A second half to which should be treated as gold. They qb sneaked it in. Just move on save the to and score the td.
yes. There was some remote chance of something terrible happening by running another play. But you had to run it anyway.
the going down thing. ....not sure what they were talking about.
With the fact he double clutched the catch I completely see how the official ruled it on the field. I have no issue with that. But replay was clear he had possession and the ball broke the plane.
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2 hours ago, Estro said:
And threw it about 10 yards too far inside. If he threw that ball out toward the #s on the right side of the field, its a walk in as you noted.
Agree but we are nitpicking a little bit. That is a really long throw and he gave his WR a chance to make a play. 2019 Josh misses Diggs by 10 yards.
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1. He's terrible
2. He's expensive
3. He's not good enough to move Edmunds to OLB if Milano can't play next week
4. He's taking up a roster spot they could use for a younger player to develop
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Not unless he can rush the passer. He played better than I thought he would. They either need to add a player to the DL or they simply need to play better as they get more experience together.
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1 hour ago, StHustle said:
Suberbowl talk is fun but we are still a year away. Our defense needs to be the focus next off-season. We are 2 or 3 moves away imo.
Why? They have one of the best offenses in the league. They can win now. They have enough weapons to hang with KC and Baltimore. And that is why I advocate for a trade now to help the defense get after the passer.
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Fine first
7th round pick and more cash for second violation
Suspend 1 game for third violation
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Titans player test positive today 10/7
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Agreed. Forfeit has to be the last resort, but a massive outbreak on a team even without a violation would still be a forfeit. There is not enough time to reschedule games. It's not like baseball.